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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

I'm not saying "Yhwach wasn't in combat, so Chojuro wouldn't scale him." I'm saying it's either a drop in Yhwach's level because Chojuro stopped training, or he's an outlier. Still, that doesn't refute Grimmjow being able to hit Askin.

Dealing damage to Yhwach doesn't level him up anyway. He might still be much weaker in terms of speed. He might only scale him in terms of AP and LS.
“Outlier” is a cop-out argument with no foundation, and you only selectively apply it to scenes you don’t like. And yeah, he doesn’t scale remotely either in AP or LS, given that you couldn’t refute my point or provide any argument for why he would have randomly become massively weaker, especially when Shinigami simply don’t weaken like that without an actual reason.

I see no difference between Chojuro’s backstab and Grimmjow’s one.

Both Askin and Yhwach were in combat, both were caught by surprise, and both got backstabbed. They were simply both surprise attacks.
 
literally showed the raws it' says infinitely expanding.
No it doesn't. You are making up stuff. There is no "extending" what it say specifically is (無限に広がる黒腔の中を彷徨い続け) -> "the black cavity that extends infinitely" 広がる means "extends", official translation support this by calling it an infinite expanse, for "extending" or an action that is extending currently it would be:
広がっている or 広がり続ける, which is not present on the text.
 
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