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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

they dont, where is this coming from

No she wouldnt, she just came out of the shadow that was left, nothing else lol
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down right you will see the shadow portal they need to jump through it to enter the real world
 
I think the first priority after Cour 4 ends should be a cosmology blog. Garganta holds multiple 4d spaces with their own timelines and has its own separate time axis. I am not sure where it tiers based on our standards though. Not sure about this but have heard that a 4D space alone cant hold multiple 4d constructs and that it would need to be 5d or something along those lines.
 
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Aizen's reference to "Power" here isn't about AP... He's saying, "I'm now a superior being to the shinigami, while you're still a shinigami." The SS Arc Databook already describes Aizen as unmatched, confirming his far superiority over Urahara. If even his pre-Hogyoku form is unmatched, why would he consider Urahara his equal? Besides, he was able to fight Shikai Yamamoto, who is stronger than Urahara.


The fact that several of Urahara's techniques can inflict damage on Aizen doesn't mean all his shikai attacks scale to that level. For example, the technique you mentioned isn't used against Askin or Ulquiorra, so it's fine. Those wouldn't scale to that attack, but Urahara's other shikai attacks wouldn't scale to this one either.

However, I doubt even that should scale. The databook states that these attacks aren't even at Aizen's level and he doesn't take any damage from them. It specifically mentions the scene where both Yoruichi and Urahara are subjected to this attack.
Power mean power, dude. It's referring to AP, clear an simple. The ammount of mental gymnastics you people need to do to discredit an extremely straightforward "I'm now stronger than you but you still are of interrest" is pitifull.


Aizen did not fight Shikai Yama, he specifically created counter measure to NOT have to fight shikai Yama. He was scared of even facing Shikai Yama.
Shikai Yama > Aizen ~ Urahara. Aizen would still win against Urahara in a non prep time fight via KS but their raw power would be similar, as per Aizen's own statement.

You're right, he did not use that ability against Askin. You know what he did use tho ? His bankai. Something FAR MORE POWERFULL, HIS LAST DITCH EFFORT. And it still wasn't enough to win on it's own. Sklaverei Voll Askin > Bankai Urahara > Shikai Urahara ~ Shinigami Aizen.

I don't care wheter Aizen received damage or not. I'm pointing out that it's Iasobi Benihime technique VISIBLY did more 'damage' to Full Chrysalis Aizen compared to his fully incanted Senju Koten Taiou on a far weaker version of Aizen, proving that Urahara Shikai far surpass his kido abilities, unlike what you claim. Kubo still had Aizen's chrysalis being damaged for a reason : To show wich attacks were the more powerfull (This is why i scale Isshin's GT above Urahara's benihime or Yoruichi's shunko : it did more damage to the chrysalis), even if aizen's essence is unscathed inside his cocoon. Obviously they don't scale to this Aizen (He wasn't even serious at all and one shot the 3 of them the instant he try.), but it's still impressive.
 
You're right, he did not use that ability against Askin. You know what he did use tho ? His bankai. Something FAR MORE POWERFULL, HIS LAST DITCH EFFORT. And it still wasn't enough to win on it's own. Sklaverei Voll Askin > Bankai Urahara > Shikai Urahara ~ Shinigami Aizen.
Because he didn't get the chance to?, immediately he got a shot at Askin after Yoruichi passed out, Askin popped Hasshein along with Gift Ball Deluxe to "put the battle to his terms" then added Gift Ring, which was one of the reasons he used bankai to heal himself, and the main reason it wasn't enough was due to the same Gift Ball passively poisoning him over and over which is hax, trying to say he is now>>>Bankai urahara meaning he's above Aizen is just....
 
Because he didn't get the chance to?, immediately he got a shot at Askin after Yoruichi passed out, Askin popped Hasshein along with Gift Ball Deluxe to "put the battle to his terms" then added Gift Ring, which was one of the reasons he used bankai to heal himself, and the main reason it wasn't enough was due to the same Gift Ball passively poisoning him over and over which is hax, trying to say he is now>>>Bankai urahara meaning he's above Aizen is just....
Urahara's bankai was constantly healing and buffing him with the reconstruction so saying askin deathdealing was nerfing him is moot. Even in shikai, askin was forced to use Gift Ring because the Gift Ball Deluxe was barely working on Urahara. During his bankai, he was at full strength. And no, Askin isn't >>> Bankai Urahara's , just a bit stronger. Askin wasn't walking all over him but was clearly superior enough that Urahara couldn't defeat him on his own even with his own hax and amps.
 
No they didnt?? A shadow formed from his beak on his face

ftl falling speed

Lille is falling fast enough to break the serieite barrier. Which requires speeds way faster then free fall. Ichigo and comp needed to blast themselves through a canon and use their reiatsu to break it
 
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