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Naruto (The Last): There's a Hole in the Moon
Pulverization end was accepted, this upgrades The Last Base Naruto to High 6-B, Base Adult Naruto scales to that, and everyone who scales to either also gets out of Unknown to High 6-B.
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Because it was the loss of chakra that put him out of commission, as we can clearly see he was not even scratched from that attack.He didn't take the full yield of the explosion. Someone should calc the distance between him and the ground then use the inverse square law to calc how much he took.
And idk why Base Naruto would scale, it was stated that it took all of Sakura's chakra just to keep him alive from that and we know how much chakra Sakura has. I highly doubt that he scales.
For the first part, I'm pretty damn sure the explosion happened right on Naruto's stomach as Toneri concentrated that small Chakra ball onto Naruto's abdomen and literally gut-punched him, the explosion did not happen on the ground below Naruto.He didn't take the full yield of the explosion. Someone should calc the distance between him and the ground then use the inverse square law to calc how much he took.
And idk why Base Naruto would scale, it was stated that it took all of Sakura's chakra just to keep him alive from that and we know how much chakra Sakura has. I highly doubt that he scales.
It is. Naruto tries Rasengan'ing Toneri but Toneri reverses it and condenses it into a small chakra ball and then hardpalms it into Naruto's abdomen.Isn't the chakra blast Naruto's own chakra? He would scale regardless of the distance he was before.
I remember the issues, something to do with the on-ground destruction being less massive than the shots shown from space.I think there's an issue regarding the sizes used in this calc. I'll post as soon as I can tomorrow morning.
For the first part, I'm pretty damn sure the explosion happened right on Naruto's stomach as Toneri concentrated that small Chakra ball onto Naruto's abdomen and literally gut-punched him, the explosion did not happen on the ground below Naruto.
Also it was Naruto's own chakra that did it to him, so he'd scale regardless.
I edited the first part of my comment regarding where the explosion took place so yeah, my bad on that part, but the chakra argument still stands, also for the second part, having all of your chakra exhausted is one of the ways to end up dying, just ask Kakashi.
It's all cool manI edited the first part of my comment regarding where the explosion took place so yeah, my bad on that part,
It being his own chakra wouldn't support it.but the chakra argument still stands,
So Naruto definitely doesn't use all of his chakra, which means the sum of this feat wouldn't scale to him.Having all of your chakra exhausted is one of the ways to end up dying
You're 100% correct, but you instantly die in a case like that. Kakashi didn't have enough time to do anything except probably talk to Choji.also for the second part, having all of your chakra exhausted is one of the ways to end up dying, just ask Kakashi.
You do realize that Naruto's chakra isn't ordinary chakra, right? He literally packs the power of the Six Paths Sage inside of him.It's all cool man
It being his own chakra wouldn't support it.
A. It's raw chakra forced, which has completely different properties than chakra molded by the user.
The average shinobi is garbage, but only 100 could make attacks that you can see from space.![]()
B. It being his own chakra isn't it, because that's the sum of his chakra.
It's not like he uses all of his chakra at once.
And in case I need to prove that, like you said under
So Naruto definitely doesn't use all of his chakra, which means the sum of this feat wouldn't scale to him.
You're 100% correct, but you instantly die in a case like that. Kakashi didn't have enough time to do anything except probably talk to Choji.
And for that part, it wouldn't take that much chakra to save you. Naruto didn't put all his chakra in Guy when he ran out of chakra against Madara, it was only a little bit, so the fact that Sakura (who has more chakra than a clone of Naruto) needs to put in almost all of her chakra just to heal him says a lot.
Chakra is still chakra, his is just more potent. He could use his own chakra, Kurama's chakra, Senjutsu chakra, and SP Chakra all for the same exact things.You do realize that Naruto's chakra isn't ordinary chakra, right? He literally packs the power of the Six Paths Sage inside of him.
Damage said he had issues with the size used and that he would remake the calc, but hasn't posted such thing as of yet here.So has this been rejected then, or should more discussion take place?
I don't think I said I'd remake the calc.Damage said he had issues with the size used and that he would remake the calc, but hasn't posted such thing as of yet here.
He almost died, there's no reason why he should scale.
Though I agree with you that he didn't take the full yield of the explosionBecause it was the loss of chakra that put him out of commission, as we can clearly see he was not even scratched from that attack.
I already countered his point and said that if he completely ran out, he'd be dead, and we see people with low chakra levels and they're perfectly fine. He ain't die off rip, so it wasn't chakra loss.Though I agree with you that he didn't take the full yield of the explosion
But was he visually injured by the explosion other than getting knocked out?I already countered his point and said that if he completely ran out, he'd be dead, and we see people with low chakra levels and they're perfectly fine. He ain't die off rip, so it wasn't chakra loss.
And he got fixed up via getting healed, it wasn't chakra loss.
His clothes weren't even torn, that's just plot induced headasseryBut was he visually injured by the explosion other than getting knocked out?
It's a Shounen, "Rule of Cool" takes precedence over logic, especially when it's a Shounen movie.His clothes weren't even torn, that's just plot induced headassery
He almost died because of chakra exhaustion, the attack itself did nothing to him.I've already sent my issues with the feat's scaling.
He almost died, there's no reason why he should scale.
Like I said, if it was chakra absorption, they would have no time to get to him, he would've died on the spot like Kakashi did.He almost died because of chakra exhaustion, the attack itself did nothing to him.
Kakashi didn't die of Chakra Exhaustion though, he died because he used what was left of his Chakra to use Kamui on a missle heading for Chouji.Like I said, if it was chakra absorption, they would have no time to get to him, he would've died on the spot like Kakashi did.
How about that instance when Shikamaru was dying when his chakra got sucked by the Shinju? He certainly didn't die on the spot.Like I said, if it was chakra absorption, they would have no time to get to him, he would've died on the spot like Kakashi did.
Naruto was already knocked out the moment that orb absorbed his chakra before the blast hit him, he himself said that his chakra was absorbed and Sakura said the same thing.Like I said, if it was chakra absorption, they would have no time to get to him, he would've died on the spot like Kakashi did.
I think the calc can be fixed by assuming the shape it's that of a truncated cone and figuring out the size of the crater in the forest.
Just ignore everybody else there that died on the spot when their chakra was absorbed, plus Shikamaru wasn't even close to the same state as everybody else, which means not all of it was absorbedHow about that instance when Shikamaru was dying when his chakra got sucked by the Shinju? He certainly didn't die on the spot.
Naruto was already knocked out the moment that orb absorbed his chakra before the blast hit him,
he himself said that his chakra was absorbed and Sakura said the same thing.
The Last never implied that, y'all did.You can say whatever you want, as long as The Last implies that Naruto was K.Od because of chakra exhaustion it is canon and thats what we will accept over headcanon.
YesThese are the same holes as the one that Naruto's Chakra created right?
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So you're comparing Naruto using a bit of his Six Paths Chakra to Sakura using most of her Regular Chakra?Why would Sakura need to provide most of her chakra when even a little bit took someone like Guy from the brink of death to a stable form?