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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

Interesting so Matt Wayne says that Lucky Girl is the Anodite form while DJW affirmed it wasn’t, although DJW also kinda acknowledged Lucky Girl as the Anodite form in another ask so I’m kinda confused on what to do here. I’m still extremely confident in them being separate things due to both the numerous amount of scaling issues that come from Lucky Girl being the Anodite form and also the complete lack of acknowledgement of the “losing humanity” thing, however DJW seemingly contradicting himself and Matt Wayne also saying they’re the same thing makes things tricky as far as the eventual CRT is concerned. I suppose I can just Death of the Author this though given how Lucky Girl pretty clearly can’t be the Anodite form in-series.
 
Reboot Alien X when Base OG Ben be like:
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Is that image of Alien X being stated to "take on any form/power" accepted? I was thinking of making a CRT that would grant him abilities like Ghostfreak's soul manipulation and Gravattacks Gravity Manipulation since he "takes on any power" and is stated to be omnipotent (which usually doesn't mean much but we can still assume that he can have those powers due to reality warping, ben knowing about all the powers of the other aliens in the omnitrix, and Azmuth saying "alien x can do anything")
 
Is that image of Alien X being stated to "take on any form/power" accepted? I was thinking of making a CRT that would grant him abilities like Ghostfreak's soul manipulation and Gravattacks Gravity Manipulation since he "takes on any power" and is stated to be omnipotent (which usually doesn't mean much but we can still assume that he can have those powers due to reality warping, ben knowing about all the powers of the other aliens in the omnitrix, and Azmuth saying "alien x can do anything")
Yeah, it is accepted.
 
So does the Alpha Rune have to have the most raw power out of any magic-related entity (like if someone had the Alpha Rune would they be physically stronger than someone like Anodite Gwen?), or can its “absolute power over magic” thing just be considered some form of hax? I think the latter would make sense since other magic users have shown feats massively above their normal stats when using spells and the like, plus Ultimate Humungousaur has shown one (arguably two) examples of scaling to the physicals of its users, but maybe I’m missing something.

If it does work that way then I guess I’ll have to figure out if the Alpha Rune’s High 3-A stuff is with its raw power or just magic hax, because if the latter then most of the scaling arguments don’t really work. You could maybe get Dagon tier characters to the Alpha Rune’s level at least, but I think all the evidence for it is pretty vague and might even contradict the Alpha Rune’s nature.
 
Actually you probably could make the Alpha Rune’s base level High 3-A through the Dagon arguments even if the High 3-A feats don’t apply to its base level, since souls downscale from Dagon through thousands of them destroying Chromastone and the Alpha Rune is noted to have a very large amount of mana.
 
Alright, how many clips do y’all think I’ll need to show OV Lucky Girl isn’t the same thing as the Anodite form scaling-wise? Initially I was just gonna link as many clips as I could, but I’m kinda lazy lol so I don’t wanna go digging for a bunch of examples.
 
excuse me @Reiner04 @Hellformer @Ghengiroo115 Verdona's speed has not been updated. Can you guys do it?
 
excuse me @Reiner04 @Hellformer @Ghengiroo115 Verdona's speed has not been updated. Can you guys do it?
What do you mean? It's already updated.
 
A really rushed and simple CRT.
 
Should Vilgax with his equipment be High 5-A? I think I remember him easily beating full sized Humungousaur. Although the scaling for that could be weird since later Diamondhead beat Vilgax
 
Can someone write a new LS description in the "Post-Omega 1 Nanite" key on Rex's profile and write a Class P description there because he can fight Ben10 aliens like Humungasour and Diamondhead?

 
Race against time is actually accepted as canon?
I’m not actually sure if it’s accepted as such on the wiki rn, but in-universe I believe so? It’s intended to be the alternate universe that was briefly shown in Ben 10,000 Returns. Eon’s whole “alternate Ben” thing complicates things since it in theory contradicts his backstory and motivations in the movie, however there’s a way to argue he’s both a Ben and a Chronian which is also sort of supported in the movie. Plus even if there are contradictions, it’s not as if Ben 10 doesn’t have a bunch of retcons already. Not only that but since the “he came from the Race Against Time universe” and “he’s an alternate Ben” were brought up in the same episode I feel it should be fine.

If people have too much of an issue with it though I could maybe make a different thread discussing his canonicity. I think I was planning on doing that before, but then eventually figured it should be fine considering how often the show has retcons/inconsistencies as well as how easy it is to fit both backstories together. Worse case scenario I can just split it into two profiles.
 
I found it funny that depending of when you think Eye Guy debuts (and we're SOTO takes place) Gwen calling him eye guy means either two things.
1:If that's his debut it means Ben decided to spite Gwen by using her insult as the alien name.
2:His name is so bad Gwen didn't find a better insult than that.
 
I found it funny that depending of when you think Eye Guy debuts (and we're SOTO takes place) Gwen calling him eye guy means either two things.
1:If that's his debut it means Ben decided to spite Gwen by using her insult as the alien name.
2:His name is so bad Gwen didn't find a better insult than that.
Well his name is so bad that even Ben 23 came up with the exact same thing
 
Can someone write a new LS description in the "Post-Omega 1 Nanite" key on Rex's profile and write a Class P description there because he can fight Ben10 aliens like Humungasour and Diamondhead?

I did it but now it's been deleted. I think we need a CRT to upgrade LS. for Rex
 
So, what does everyone think of my Eon overhaul so far? Obviously it’s far from finished, but I wanna know if everything looks good so far or if some stuff should be changed.
Superhuman Physical Characteristics (Scan), Time Manipulation (Scan), Time Travel (Scan), Dimensional Travel (Scan), Teleportation (Scan), Portal Creation (Scan), Mind Manipulation (Scan), Energy Manipulation (Scan), Age Manipulation (Scan), Reality Destruction with Chrono Navigator (Scan)

Would prefer in Bullet style format.
 
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