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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread
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OMG
thought u were gonna calc Omnitrix falling from orbit (aka Omnitrix durability).
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Quite that'd be just the pod's durability.OMG
thought u were gonna calc Omnitrix falling from orbit (aka Omnitrix durability).
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inverse square lol (applied to Omnitrix)
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You mean Pot
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I might if i get bored enough, but rn it doesn't seem like it'd scale to anythingOMG
thought u were gonna calc Omnitrix falling from orbit (aka Omnitrix durability).
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Also i want to create a brand new verse on this page it's a 2000s cartoon ok boiii ? got it. Next month i'll ask for calz
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in the mean time you can do calcs for me
YES DEMONICDUDE
I'm an actual versus character now. Someone should calc my speed it's shit
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Heatblast from classic Ben 10 has reached quarter finals of tournament.
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High 6-A to 5-C Redux Tournament (2026): Heatblast (Ben10) flame alien vs Gray Fullbuster ice magician (QUARTER FINAL)
Vs Main Tournament Thread Keys: As agreed against tier setter in main thread Speed: Equalized speed in all matches Distance: 50 meters apart from each other Win: Win via killing ⚰️ or if opponent proceed to give up/exit tournament. (No BFR allowed) Knowledge: Random encounters, No prior...
Ghengiroo115
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Part of me’s wondering if the Alpha Rune is actually fully 2-A, or if it’s just 2-A through magic/mana manipulation. The power within the Alpha Rune is just mana, right? It wouldn’t make sense for a finite amount of mana to give you the power to control all mana in the universe. Unless I’m missing something, part of me wonders if Alpha Rune users get a boost to their physical stats up to a certain level, and then have the extra ability to manipulate all mana.
I could be completely wrong, though. This is just a thought that came up in my head. Honestly part of the reason I feel this way is due the potential relativity between Dagon arc characters and future characters:
Sorry for the rambling, maybe I’m completely off the mark here but i just wanted to get my thoughts out there.
I could be completely wrong, though. This is just a thought that came up in my head. Honestly part of the reason I feel this way is due the potential relativity between Dagon arc characters and future characters:
- Dagon is heavily implied to be superior to Alpha Rune users, thanks to both his status as the “old one” in that episode but also the episode titles referring to him as the “ultimate enemy”.
- Excalibur is stated by the Forever Knights to be an invincible sword even with the knowledge of Ascalon. Excalibur through scaling alone places it immensely above Way Big level characters thanks to scaling relatively with Atomic-X, so it being relative to Ascalon isn’t that unrealistic considering its scaling. On top of that, I feel it’s reasonable to assume adding Celestialsapien DNA should be at least as potent as the Evolution feature, so Atomic-X being on the same level as Ultimate Way Big makes logical sense even if there’s no hard evidence for that (not to mention how base Atomix 10K would already be stronger than base UA Way Big).
Sorry for the rambling, maybe I’m completely off the mark here but i just wanted to get my thoughts out there.
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I don't agree with this, Chromastone was able to absorb Dagon's blast, and can't absorb mana from Charmcaster's machine, which is powered by Alpha Rune
Ghengiroo115
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Dagon was holding back, and the Sorcerer’s Engine isn’t powered by the Alpha Rune. The mana that killed Chromastone was the souls Charmcaster had collected.
EDIT: Addwaitya was also physically hurt by Charmcaster, Gwen and Ultimate Humungousaur. The former two were obviously amped by being in Legerdomain, but that’s from them being surrounded by mana which based on the Alpha Rune’s current tiering makes no sense. If the Alpha Rune has absolute power over all of Legerdomain, and the users of it supposedly physically scale to this, why can a relatively insignificant amount of mana explicitly harm Addwaitya? He even has to create forcefields to avoid taking damage from them.
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Yeah, why does he still got the stupid mask?There is smth funny about this version of Vilgax design. I won't say it but you know it.
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Let's not bully him over it, dating is hard.There is smth funny about this version of Vilgax design. I won't say it but you know it.
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Man, find himself a girl (or man?) that is extremely omnisexual.
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Blud. I actually thought the same but didn't care much when i was a kid and it doesn't make a big impact now, since it didn't bother me back thenThere is smth funny about this version of Vilgax design. I won't say it but you know it.
Aolphl
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You dirty dogThere is smth funny about this version of Vilgax design. I won't say it but you know it.
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Quetsion, since Alpha rune was given type 1 CM isn't it supposed to be tier 1-B now?
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Dagon says he would end Sir George with this attack. It was literally powered by Alpha Rune when Charmcaster use one of her spell.
If these souls/mana was overpower Chromastone then Chromastone can't be equal to Alpha Rune
Gwen and Charmcaster was powered by Legerdomain. Addwaitya was literally unaffected by Ultimate Humungousaur
Why doesn’t it make sense? Mana has UES on their page, and Mana users’ powers depend on where they are. So why is this energy still considered a “relatively insignificant amount of mana”?
He only do it with Gwen or Charmcaster
Why?
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Becuz mana/magic permeates through out the verse, and Alpha rune has superiority over it.
Like any other type 1 CM
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No, mana only permeates the universe not the entire verse, also cosmology is in rework for now.
Edit: Not all CM1 are permeates the entire their verse
Ghengiroo115
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I’m not sure where you’re getting that. I rewatched the episode before I sent my last reply and didn’t see anything like that.
I’m not saying that Chromastone (or more accurately Dagon) is beyond everything the Alpha Rune can do, just its base strength. I don’t think its ability to have power over all mana is based on its base strength, similar to how all magic users can use spells way beyond their normal strength.
It’s hard to elaborate right now as I’m very emotionally and mentally drained from real life stuff.
He shows visible fear on his face when Ultimate Humungousaur breaks out of the crystal, and roars in frustration after getting hit by his missiles.
If Addwaitya physically scaled above all mana in the universe, then Charmcaster and Gwen would be unable to hurt him. Them being in Legerdomain might amp them, but they’re still using an extremely small amount of mana to attack when compared to all the mana that exists in the universe. They shouldn’t be able to make Addwaitya wince in pain or verbally acknowledge the fact that Charmcaster can hurt him.
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When Charmcaster was use her spell with Alpha Rune
It stated to be "Source of Ultimate Power" by Charmcaster, which she even knows about Dagon, as well as, Dagon's powers is based mana, and Charmcaster still think that Alpha Rune is Ultimate Power
Ok,
Then he literally says, “Come over here and find out,” and no trace of fatigue appeared. So it's PIS.
He scales above all of them, but mana users in Legerdomain can still scale to him, since they are powered by Legerdomain, where all the mana in the universe flows. Where did you get “they’re still using an extremely small amount of mana compared to all the mana that exists in the universe”? Gwen was literally impressed by her power when she was able to stop Addwaitya from killing them.
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Shouldn't Dagon upscale from every enemy and menace up to that moment? He's heavily implied to be more powerful and dangerous than Aggregor with the Map of Infinity and UA Eon, as Paradox textually warmed Ben about him and George, and that if Dagon succeeded in returning to our Dimension, we'd be doomed
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Full Guidebook.
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Hi Alexander are you new to the wiki ? welcome
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I have like 13000 comments
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oh it's just that I have not really seen you in Ben 10 versus matches or Tournament threads. my bad lol
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and guess what our profiles does have the same weaknesses that the wiki have
we must remake them all
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Yeahand guess what our profiles does have the same weaknesses that the wiki have
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Well every alien is also somehow Solar system level with MFTL+. The scaling is whack.
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speed is fine tier 4 is meh
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Waassup gang
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Ben 10 Classic Jetray Content Revision Thread
In Ben 10 Alien Force episode "What are little girls made of" Jetray during the fight with Grandma Verdona was flying normally but activated speed boost at 0:30 which created a spiral effect visually on screen. Therefore Statistics Amplification should be given.
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Wasn't the whole point of Alpha rune being ultimate authority over magic itself, non of the mentioned should scales to it. Also why it's 2-A?
And later on, she got one shoted easily in her Anodyte form by Charmcaster using only the alpha rune
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Because Legerdomain encompasses the whole timelines, which is 2-A.
She didn't even attack her, she just absorbed her energy.
