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Black Hat Rework 4/4?, Tier Upgrades (tier 2 and higher)

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Thank you all for your patience on this. In this CRT I will go over the various tier/stat changes for the character Black Hat. If there is any confusion just say the word and I will explain best I can, sorry if I am not able to respond immediately. There is more content coming out for the series soon with the return of CreepyCharlie Blogs and an entire new spin off series in the work, so I want to make sure this stuff is in before the new material is released.

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Background for the tier change:
Black Hat created the book: Black Hat’s Harmless Book
It has been stated to be such by other characters
    • “Maldigo a esa... cosa inmunda por haber creado un sitio asi, donde encierra a seres inocentes como....”
    • “I curse that... filthy thing for having created such a place, where it locks up innocent beings like....”
    [*]

And has been confirmed by Black Hat himself
In this book that he created there are +3556 universes that are directly stated to be so several times, to the point that 2 different creatures that traverse different universes before the book that are needed for guarding and traversal of this book. With the guard specifically hunting down the main character because they keep going to different realities, via the elevator floors.
  • The creatures
    • The Hound
        • “el sabueso tiende a perseguig a todos aquellos que se mueven constantemente realidades. Cuantis mas te muevas, mejog te olega, Asi que la mejog manega de evitag que detecte es… arrete de bouger”
        • “The hound tends to chase anyone who constantly moves across realities. The more you move, the better it'll smell you. So the best way to avoid that it detects you is...stop moving”
        [*]
    • The Dimensional Worm
        • Sin duda es un esfuerzo admirable y puedo decirte que vas por buen camino, pues ahora te encuentras en lo que denomino como "el gusano dimensional". Esta extraña hestia puede crear túneles dimensionales por los cuales suele transportar a los miembros de la organización del sombrero a ésta y otras dimensiones.
        • It is undoubtedly an admirable effort, and I can tell you that you are on the right track, because you are now in what I call “the dimensional worm.” This strange hestia can create dimensional tunnels through which it usually transports members of the hat organization to this and other dimensions.
The fact that these are treated as universes has already been approved: here


In the second volume a structure and universe found within the book was expanded on. The Ribcage and the End of the book, which are both concrete structures. Within this Black Hat was able to have all universes physically flow into this one universe.
Which we hear a description of when they make it to the End of the Book where the ripcage leads to
    • Finalmente, después de un intenso y veloz via- je dentro de los túneles, el camión llegó hasta una zona más tranquila y Kaleb pudo distinguir dónde estaban. Eran unos enormes túneles de alcantarillas, los tubos de metal y los di- ferentes orificios gigantescos por los cuales el agua brotaba estaban acomodados en forma de un enorme costillar gigante.
    • Finally, after an intense and fast journey through the tunnels, the truck reached a quieter area and Kaleb could make out where they were. They were huge sewer tunnels, with metal pipes and various giant holes through which water gushed, arranged in the shape of a giant rib cage.
    [*]
This means ALL universes in the book are combined directly into this one universe. These entrances could only be found with the assistance of the reader/eye in the sky. With the main character, Kaleb, along with the reader using the ripcage in two different universes within the book. Here is the same falling through the ripcage and into “The end of the book” in two completely different universes
    • De pronto, el camión pa- reció deslizarse hacia abajo con la corriente y cayó en unas fuertes y rápidas aguas que lo arrastraron. -¡Sujétense! -gritó Walton. El camión estaba inmerso en una especie de rápidos sub- terráneos, pasando por un sinnúmero de túneles y pequeñas cascadas. Al sentir el zangoloteo y la velocidad acelerada con la que era arrastrado el vehículo, Sam, Walton, Jeremy y Kaleb se aferraron a lo que pudieron para evitar ser sacudidos den- tro del camión. Finalmente, después de un intenso y veloz via- je dentro de los túneles, el camión llegó hasta una zona más tranquila y Kaleb pudo distinguir dónde estaban. Eran unos enormes túneles de alcantarillas, los tubos de metal y los di- ferentes orificios gigantescos por los cuales el agua brotaba estaban acomodados en forma de un enorme costillar gigante.
    • Suddenly, the truck seemed to slide down with the current and fell into strong, fast-moving waters that swept it away. “Hold on!” Walton shouted. The truck was immersed in a kind of underground rapids, passing through countless tunnels and small waterfalls. Feeling the jolting and the accelerated speed at which the vehicle was being swept away, Sam, Walton, Jeremy, and Kaleb clung to whatever they could to avoid being thrown around inside the truck. Finally, after an intense and fast journey through the tunnels, the truck reached a quieter area and Kaleb could make out where they were. They were huge sewer tunnels, with metal pipes and various giant holes through which water gushed, arranged in the shape of a giant rib cage.

  • [*]Súbitamente el barco pareció deslizarse hacia abajo con la corriente y a partir de ahí las fuertes y rápidas aguas se con- virtieron en una especie de montaña rusa subterránea, pasan- do por un sinnúmero de túneles y pequeñas cascadas. Kaleb, al sentir el zangoloteo y la velocidad acelerada del navío, se aferró a una moldura también y no se soltó. A pesar de las fuertes corrientes el navegante parecía tranquilo tras el timón, Kaleb no entendía cómo, ya que estaba seguro de que se iban a estrellar en cualquier momento. Era eso o tal vez el subconsciente deseo del chico de que el barco sufriera un accidente para que Fuego y su banda de asesinos no pudieran salir de aquí. Deseaba que una catástrofe lo salva- rá de ayudar a los desgraciados que tomaron la vida de Tabet frente a sus ojos. Finalmente, después de un intenso y veloz viaje dentro de los túneles, el barco llegó hasta una zona más tranquila. En- tonces, Kaleb pudo distinguir dónde estaban. Eran esas mis- mas alcantarillas por las cuales llegó hasta el Reino Huachi por primera vez. Inmediatamente reconoció esas paredes, los enormes tubos de metal y los diferentes orificios gigantescos por los cuales el agua brotaba.
    [*]Suddenly, the boat seemed to slide down with the current, and from there, the strong, fast-moving waters turned into a kind of underground roller coaster, passing through countless tunnels and small waterfalls. Kaleb, feeling the boat's jolting and accelerated speed, also grabbed hold of a molding and did not let go. Despite the strong currents, the navigator seemed calm at the helm. Kaleb didn't understand how, since he was sure they were going to crash at any moment. It was either that or perhaps the boy's subconscious desire for the ship to crash so that Fuego and his band of assassins couldn't get out of there. He hoped that a catastrophe would save him from helping the wretches who took Tabet's life before his eyes. Finally, after an intense and fast journey through the tunnels, the boat reached a quieter area. Then Kaleb could make out where they were. They were the same sewers through which he had first arrived in the Huachi Kingdom. He immediately recognized those walls, the huge metal pipes, and the various giant holes through which water gushed.
    [*]
The ribcage is the exact same in a completely different universes. Giving even further credibility that all universes are connected to the one universe at the "End of the Book".


Black Hat's abilities should scale physically, with a Hatbot who is given a top hat (which is a rank given in the Black Hat Organization with abilities directly from Black Hat) is given "infinite power”, where all of their physical attacks do infinite damage.

At LEAST
2 main reasonings for this
  1. Labyrinth
    1. This is a universe in the book which is stated to be the hub for other worlds, and we only see one in the series.
    2. [*]“Hay un labeginto, uno que dicen conduce a otgos mundos. Sim he escuchado de el, en el piso 13. C’est correct. Solo debe Tomas el elevadog y…. Voila! La liberte”
      [*]“"There is a labyrinth, one that they say leads to other worlds. Sim I've heard of it, on the 13th floor. C'est correct. Just take the elevator and go to ..... Voila! La liberte”
      [*]
  2. Uncountable different flowing universes in the ripcage
    1. Likely not infinite but something to show the scope of what is going into the universe of “the End of The Book”
    2. [*]Suddenly, the boat seemed to slide down with the current, and from there, the strong, fast-moving waters turned into a kind of underground roller coaster, passing through countless tunnels and small waterfalls.
      [*]Súbitamente el barco pareció deslizarse hacia abajo con la corriente y a partir de ahí las fuertes y rápidas aguas se con- virtieron en una especie de montaña rusa subterránea, pasan- do por un sinnúmero de túneles y pequeñas cascadas.
      [*]

TLDR: He merged +3.5K universes physically into one universe.
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Similar to above
Portals can be used to traverse multiple universes and he has access to the entire multiverse. Could instantly show up in the book of +3.5 Universes when summoned.

-¡Black Hat! ¡Muéstrate! ¡Tengo algo que ofrecerte! -el chico gritó a la nada.

No recibió respuesta, únicamente se escuchaba el crujir del fuego a su alrededor y las tablas del barco que se hundían en la oscuridad.

-Quiero... hacer un trato -susurró.
...
De pronto, las llamas de fuego y la niebla del lugar se con- gelaron en su sitio abruptamente, estaban inmóviles. Incluso parecía que el barco se había dejado de hundir.
Hasta que pudo verlo, caminando en el agua negra como si ésta fuera piso sólido, apoyando su bastón a cada paso, hacién- dolo retumbar.

Kaleb no le desprendió la mirada, su respiración era aho- gada; le dolía inhalar a causa del miedo y las heridas.

El ser llegó hasta los restos de La Flama y subió por la inclinada mitad de la popa, hasta que se plantó directamente frente al chico.

Y entonces lo vio a detalle. Era muy alto y delgado de los…

“Black Hat! Show yourself! I have something to offer you!” the boy shouted into the void.

He received no answer, only the crackling of the fire around him and the creaking of the ship's planks sinking into darkness.

“I want... to make a deal,” he whispered.

...

Suddenly, the flames and fog froze abruptly in place, motionless. It even seemed as if the ship had stopped sinking.

Until he could see it, walking on the black water as if it were solid ground, leaning on his cane with each step, making it rumble.

Kaleb didn't take his eyes off him, his breathing was labored; it hurt to inhale because of fear and his wounds.

The being reached the wreckage of La Flama and climbed up the sloping stern until he stood directly in front of the boy.

And then he saw him in detail. He was very tall and thin, with

Multiversal range with reality warping, At least Multiversal range with portals
The Author is on record saying that Demencia and Flug don’t think Black Hat can be rivaled, and Flug thinks there is something that can harm him out there (Also confirmed in the show). The fact Flug has to theorize that there is something out there that can harm Black Hat means he has not seen something that can yet.

At bare minimum this puts Black Hat above Black Hat Organization’s several planet busters products or gas giant eaters. Which is backed up by Black Hat himself; when asked if anything he sells would make them as strong as him, he just said no. And most likely puts him above the universe reset clash via Crossover Pops and Anti-pops (which again is canon to Villainous), which was further backed up by Flug and Demencia not seeing anyone else as a rival.

TL: DR: At least Planet to Large Planet Level durability, Likely low 2-C Dura as well
Black Hat's laser eyes should scale to people he gives the exact same ability to, leading to a speed of MFTL+ (4000x the speed of light)

Black Hat should upscale from the clones created by the Evil Ray, which is powered by the corruption of the island from Black Hat and can only copy the appearance of what ever is created. In this feat Black Hat's clone rips out a gym by removing the entire foundation along with it. Leading this clone to get a lifting strength of Class M, leading to Black Hat being at least Class M due to likely being much stronger than this.
The Master’s existence in the universe causes the end of all universes, this is already confirmed and in the profile. It has been stated multiple times that there is a multiverse (1, 2). With interdimensional portals that are on par with Black Hat, able to reach any time and place. And it being stated there are many more universes outside of the book.

    • El lado positivo es que el gusano te sacará de la dimensión de este libro. Sin embargo, no estoy seguro de en qué dimensión puedas terminar como destino. Espero que sea la tuya y puedas regresar a tu vida normal. De no ser así, quizá podamos encontrarnos y cono- cernos, me encantaría conversar con alguien que ha vivido lo que tú.
    • The positive side is that the worm will take you out of the dimension of this book. However, I'm not sure what dimension you might end up in. I hope it's your own and that you can return to your normal life. If not, maybe we can meet and get to know each other. I would love to talk to someone who has experienced what you have.
All of these would be destroyed. To round this all off we also have to include the afterlife/underworld that base for can directly stay in and we have seen him in directly (subtitles are in english) found in. Which again all of these would be destroyed.
The true form itself lies outside of the multiverse in a different dimension: “....to signs of something terrible trying to invade our dimension and perceived collectively through dreams…”. This line is also backed up by the prophecy of the red eclipse: “But from the deep and malignant darkness that sleeps beyond the spherical orchards”. If the true form/Master had a physical place of the multiverse it would be the end for all the universes, despite the fact base form has the ability to travel the entire multiverse (and all of time). Showing over and over the true form is outside of the multiverse itself and in another dimension.

So with the fact it is said over and over that the true form comes from another dimension and not another universe in the multiverse, what does that entail? With the fact that, while not even being in the dimension they are described as "everywhere and nowhere” and “the center of the universe and the unholy cosmos” (which we see expands to other universes) along with the fact its mere existence causes the end of all universes, point to The Master being a higher dimensional being with superiority. Making it "likely higher", possibly low 1-C. The sandbox reflects the "likely higher" argument

This would also impact range due to its the same reason as above
Edit (10/20/25): Added additional backing for 2-B durability (this was removed)
Edit (11/16/25): Changes of the tier 1 changes to "likely higher"

Agree (9), 3 staff
: RigelBR7, ArthurBeyy, Apex_Predator_GX, ActuallySpaceMan42 (Disagrees with low 1-C), Kiryu-MG3,(same as ActuallySpaceMan) TheOrangeGuy09 (same as ActuallySpaceMan), IvarUHQ (disagrees with low 1-C), nierre (same as ActuallySpaceMan), reiner04 (Disagrees with low 1-C)
Neutral:
Disagree: karamcaS (Tier 1)
 
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made a small adjustment, if the physical 2-B gets accepted it would also affect durability. It has been updated in both the CRT and the Sandbox. The previous reasoning is still there as well, nothing has been removed.
 
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Note: If 2-B Attack Potency gets accepting it should scale to Base Form physically which means it would either be highly likely to be Multiversal or just replace all of what is above for durability (under Newtwon's Third Law). The Sandbox has both the low 2-C and the 2-B durability options listed
We don't apply that to this kind of stuff.
Black Hat's laser eyes should scale to people he gives the exact same ability to, leading to a speed of MFTL+ (4000x the speed of light)
Just make sure it's listed as attack speed.

Not seeing Low 1-C, but the rest seems good.
 
I can see your saying it's a higher dimension, but there's not enough evidence for that. If there were some more evidence of superiority, I might.
Hmmm. Its stated to be a dimensions beyond the universe “But from the deep and malignant darkness that sleeps beyond the spherical orchards”. With this form causing the end of the multiverse with it physically existing. With it being omni-present despite not physically being there. With base form having full access to all of time and dimensions. Meaning that it beyond all of these things.

If this doesn't work do you see a possible low 1-C?
 
Hmmm. Its stated to be a dimensions beyond the universe “But from the deep and malignant darkness that sleeps beyond the spherical orchards”. With this form causing the end of the multiverse with it physically existing. With it being omni-present despite not physically being there. With base form having full access to all of time and dimensions. Meaning that it beyond all of these things.
That's enough to scale him to the Multiverse, vaguely above it, but not to an infinite enough degree.
 
That's enough to scale him to the Multiverse, vaguely above it, but not to an infinite enough degree.
Ah, I see where you are coming from more now. I personally disagree with it not being low 1-C but respect your stance and thank you very much for taking time out to review this. Was just bumping it with RigelBR7 for a bit lol.
 
No, being beyond something doesn't detail the type of superiority.
Can it be applied as Low 1-C range instead? As in he can access dimensions beyond the standard 4, but he does not have the power destroy anything qualitatively beyond what his base form can despite having a clear superiority.
 
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Can it be applied as Low 1-C range instead? As in he can access dimensions beyond the standard 4, but he does not have the power destroy anything qualitatively beyond what his base form can despite having a clear superiority.
That's Extradimensional range ig, not Low 1-C
 
That's Extradimensional range ig, not Low 1-C
It would be extradimensional, had it only been limited 3D range with the ability to interact with 4 dimensions. But here, it is Multiversal (4D) with the ability to ascend/descend to/from higher dimensions other than the standard 4. Hence, why I suggested Low 1-C range since it is essentially 5-D due to the already established capabilities to reach through extra dimensions that are beyond the standard 4.
 
sorry for not giving this thread much attention recently. Added additional evidence for the 2-B durability rating. The edit is clearly labelled and doesn't change up the original argument but provides an additional source. Working with others as well to add new evidence where I overlooked something or didn't even know something existed.

I will continue to reach out to get this reviewed and work on this when I have the chance to.
 
The true form itself lies outside of the multiverse in a different dimension: “....to signs of something terrible trying to invade our dimension and perceived collectively through dreams…”. This line is also backed up by the prophecy of the red eclipse: “But from the deep and malignant darkness that sleeps beyond the spherical orchards”. If the true form/Master had a physical place of the multiverse it would be the end for all the universes, despite the fact base form has the ability to travel the entire multiverse (and all of time). Showing over and over the true form is outside of the multiverse itself and in another dimension.

So with the fact it is said over and over that the true form comes from another dimension and not another universe in the multiverse, what does that entail? With the fact that, while not even being in the dimension they are described as "everywhere and nowhere” and “the center of the universe and the unholy cosmos” (which we see expands to other universes) along with the fact its mere existence causes the end of all universes, point to The Master being a higher dimensional being with superiority. Making a very strong case for Low 1-C.
Being outside the Multiverse doesn't make you Low 1-C. Having the power to destroy the multiverse doesn't make you Low 1-C. There is no context that The Master is higher-dimensional.
Meaning that it beyond all of these things.
Being beyond something doesn't make you above or transcending it
Why wouldn't being beyond the spacetimes of the multiverse be Low 1-C?
Why would that be? May I ask which site or wiki's system you're using? Because we are in VSBW
Can it be applied as Low 1-C range instead? As in he can access dimensions beyond the standard 4, but he does not have the power destroy anything qualitatively beyond what his base form can despite having a clear superiority.
There is no requirement that there will be a 5-dimensional or more transcendent or superior or higher dimensional space beyond 4 dimensions. Tier 1 and Low 1-C are not the Tiers that are received so easily. I thought someone with 12 thousand messages would know this.

Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that are one uncountably infinite level above Low 2-C structures. In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^5 (5-dimensional real coordinate space).

We stopped giving Low 1-C easily even to those who transcend Space-Time, you can't reach Tier 1 for a reason that doesn't even exist
 
Being outside the Multiverse doesn't make you Low 1-C. Having the power to destroy the multiverse doesn't make you Low 1-C. There is no context that The Master is higher-dimensional.
Base form can access the entire 3rd and 4th Dimension. True form exists doesn't exist in these dimensions (physically) as stated here as attempting to invade them. I am using the fact that his existence in the multiverse destroys everything as additional evidence that he is not in the multiverse or in these dimensions. With there being evidence from several places to show that this is likely in higher plane of existence, which again the fact he is above the 3D or 4th dimension shows he is likely in the 5th. Which I put as likely low 1-C.
Being beyond something doesn't make you above or transcending it
transcend
-be or go beyond the range or limits of

Which again is backed up by being beyond 3D and 4D then saying they are beyond that.

There is no requirement that there will be a 5-dimensional or more transcendent or superior or higher dimensional space beyond 4 dimensions. Tier 1 and Low 1-C are not the Tiers that are received so easily. I thought someone with 12 thousand messages would know this.

Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that are one uncountably infinite level above Low 2-C structures. In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^5 (5-dimensional real coordinate space).

We stopped giving Low 1-C easily even to those who transcend Space-Time, you can't reach Tier 1 for a reason that doesn't even exist
Rude

Also they weren't even talking about AP. They stated they were talking about range: "Can it be applied as Low 1-C range instead?"

I do believe that BH is low 1-C but you just went after the guy for something he didn't even say.
 
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sorry for not giving this thread much attention recently. Added additional evidence for the 2-B durability rating. The edit is clearly labelled and doesn't change up the original argument but provides an additional source. Working with others as well to add new evidence where I overlooked something or didn't even know something existed.

I will continue to reach out to get this reviewed and work on this when I have the chance to.
Don’t worry about it.
 
I agree with all of that except for L1-C, which I find rather unstable and not consistent enough. If you have any information about what the dimension is like, that would be great
 
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