Bleach Big Calc problems

[ElJoaki5]

To sum up my final thoughts.

Ichigo's flight can't be used to find the distance since it lacks any specific timeframe.

• The 9.25 hours are based on a random clock in the background that is most likely not intended to portray how long it took, not to say it isn’t in the anime making it less reliable.
• The 12 hours timeframe would be how long it'd take by taking the stairs based on the context.
• Both of those get contradicted by the 6000 seconds anyway.

Theoretically, you could still take the one week or 12 h timeframes and assume a speed for either going down the stairs. But I still favor the idea of using the visuals. Whats the necessity in assuming how fast they'd go under these conditions when you can just, you know, look at it.

Every single visual depiction of it does not put it that high up, it is consistently around a 50 km height and I don’t see the necessity in ignoring that. That height would be coherent with other issues proposed while at it. That is the height I personally favour.

There's also the proposal of using something derived from those 6000 s but with how much goes on in that time I don’t think it's something much concrete either.

 

[Hellscream]

Completely failed to address my prior comment, or simply blatantly ignored it, due to being unable to.

I already addressed that the 6000 second timeframe would only be the distance of the exit, to seireitei.
The distance from the exit of the membrane to the SK palace is not accounted for, nor the timespan.

So basically, neither the 9 hour, nor the 12 hour timeframe are contradicted,

Also, you can actually use the "random clock" as the timeframe is similar to what was stated for it to take.
Either way, don't swap or change your arguments in order to favor your premise.

It isn't consistently at 50km either, you literally cannot prove this.

 

[Rodriiogo]

Completely failed to address my prior comment, or simply blatantly ignored it, due to being unable to.

Or because it was something I already address in other comments so saying the same thing again would be pointless, you also said you'd give a proper response today so I'd rather wait considering that.

I already addressed that the 6000 second timeframe would only be the distance of the exit, to seireitei.
The distance from the exit of the membrane to the SK palace is not accounted for, nor the timespan.

So basically, neither the 9 hour, nor the 12 hour timeframe are contradicted,

Also, you can actually use the "random clock" as the timeframe is similar to what was stated for it to take.
Either way, don't swap or change your arguments in order to favor your premise.

Ignored everything I said to the other comments award, I will say it again, I didn't answer your directly because you, as someone who is trying to oppose the thread should read all comments yourself and not have me mention you towards them, everything you said was already addressed and pointless to answer again. Specially the dimension argument that has been beaten down to hell and back by the way.

If you don't have any more input, patiently wait for the CGMs to make their decision, thank you.
You think I didn't address your points right? Let's see what CGMs say when they read the thread. If you're confident in what you just said, you will now wait correct?

 

[Mommyleona]

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why are we still stuck on the dimension argument and for some reason separating the 2? talk about blatantly ignoring something

Also that timeframe still would contradict the 9 hour one, since Yhwach goes up to the SK palace in that said timeframe and then all this happens while the hole is still open

For you to get an idea of how it was way less than 6000 seconds for Yhwach to get to the Palace.

• Ichigo lands in Seireitei in Episode 21: The Headless Star;
• After this you have Ichigo VS the Bambies;
• Yhwach travels to the Palace, arrives and starts fighting Ichibe (alongside all the squad 0 fights)i;
• Meanwhile Ichigo and the others are being helped by Kisuke to be able to go to the Palace;
• All those things end, Ichigo and the others arrive at the palace;
• The entire fall of the soul king happens alongside everything down below;

And I kid you not, in EPISODE 31, 10 episodes later, the hole that Ichigo did is STILL OPENED even though it'd only take 6000 seconds to close.

 

[Hellscream]

Or because it was something I already address in other comments so saying the same thing again would be pointless, you also said you'd give a proper response today so I'd rather wait considering that.

You didn't address it, no worries i read the thread.

We don't know the distance between the first and 72nd layer, how thick they are, if they're layered all right between each other without distance.
Assumption, upon assumption, upon assumption.

So now, tell me the distance between the membrane, and SK palace, and the time it took.

Ignored everything I said to the other comments award, I will say it again, I didn't answer your directly because you, as someone who is trying to oppose the thread should read all comments yourself and not have me mention you towards them, everything you said was already addressed and pointless.

If you don't have anymore input, patiently wait for the CGMs to make their decision, thank you.

I did read them all, you didn't address it.

I also read the entirety of your first "counter argument"

 

[Hellscream]

why are we still stuck on the dimension argument and for some reason separating the 2? talk about blatantly ignoring something

Also that timeframe still would contradict the 9 hour one, since Yhwach goes up to the SK palace in that said timeframe and then all this happens while the hole is still open

Because it's a seperate dimension lol, it's stated to be a seperate dimension, nothing contradicts it, a dimension being above another in terms of coordinates also doesn't contradict anything lmfao,

Also these dudes are trying to use an unknown travel method, that Yhwach and the quincies use as some form of counter argument when they literally have the capabilities to travel dimensions instantaneously.

Keep on spreading misinformation guys!

 

[Overvoid69]

Let's think for a moment, if even first layer which was just broken moments ago is gonna take 6000 seconds to regenerate, what does that tell us about the 72nd considering it is still opened/still has the hole? Do you think the upper layers have a slower regenerative rate than the lower ones or something?

Presupposes the first layer was broken a moment ago/ that Ichigos trip was short and brother you missed the point.

Mayuri didn't say said they take 6,000 seconds to regenerate from the moment Ichigo broke them ur reading it wrong. He's counting from this moment "Based on the regenerative rate.... It WILL TAKE 6,000 seconds before the opening can close more. Show where it says he's stating the total time or counting from when ichigo initially broke it. Your just reading it wrong.

Even if I were to grant this idea instead of just taking the statement at face value like a normal person would, did you not see the part where I showed that Yhwach is not only able to go from Seireitei to the palace, multiple fights happen, Ichigo and the others arrive to the palace, the fall of the soul king happens, all of that and the layers were still broken:

This Yhwach should not be any faster than Ichigo.
It's so insane how using the clock is still being attempted despite all of this..

Yhwach isn't using raw flight speed like Ichigo did...
We see him and Uryu get dragged up by a beam of Reishi, so this argument doesn't work because there method of travel isn't the same.
Secondly Aushwhalen just supports Yhwach having techniques that can cross the distance fast.

Also, side note, it is funny how no one addressed the FTL Walls.

The original calc used calc stacking to get the distance that high. I don't think anyone defended that calcs method here and from the best methods Infinite9Luck could pull. The feat is never reaching FTL again. So him having that as a issue was super redundant which is why no one bothered replying and let's even if the distance was high enough for the feat to be FTL:

Why are we capping these walls at any speed in the first place? They magically hold themselves up mid air and come down when someones tries to enter the Sereitei. If it was just gravity at work here how can these walls hold themselves up around the soul king palace? Therefore we know there is another force at play and so we can't magically cap these walls at any speed based off ur baseless assumptions

which then gets repeated again with stuff falling fast as Ghostimus showed with Lille body parts and wings landing down there in some moments after she explodes.

Lillies body parts explode off him there not just freefalling, so once again we are NOT capping there speed based off terminal velocity... Secondly Lille explodes in EP11 of the 3rd Cour and we see him reach the sereitei in EP14. Remember now were not using the manga if its contradicted by the anime, don't cherry pick when to and not use the Anime.

Like there is so much more supporting evidence towards the clock being something INSANELY unreliable yet it is being used as if it was a "stated timeframe".

I never defended the clock method or even argued for a timeframe. Some of you have good points, but others are making terrible points trying to downplay the feat into oblivion.

 

[Overvoid69]

• Both of those get contradicted by the 6000 seconds anyway.

Why are we still using this? This has already been addressed and debunked??? Mayuri never says 6,000 seconds is the total time it takes for the barriers to regenerate once there broken. He's measuring the time remaining for them to regenerate.​

Every single visual depiction of it does not put it that high up, it is consistently around a 50 km height and I don’t see the necessity in ignoring that. That height would be coherent with other issues proposed while at it. That is the height I personally favour.

We don't know the parameters of the SKP's dimension (seperate space then the Soul Society) and this is all the information we have on it: it starts as a layered cloudy sky and above it is the Soul King Palace, and above it we see a singular Sun and in nighttime we see 0 stars, and mind u we have 0 idea if the SKP dimension is in a planet or what. We don't even know if it has a surface or if it's even in a planet.

Hence we can't use metrics like earths ground to the sky or to space or use them as cap this 2nd spaces height. This is why Leona is trying to rat the SKP dimension to not be a different dimension even though he's been debunked over and over.

 

[Mommyleona]

Why are we still using this? This has already been addressed and debunked??? Mayuri never says 6,000 seconds is the total time it takes for the barriers to regenerate once there broken. He's measuring the time remaining for them to regenerate.

because the "debunks" have also been answered, it's a difference in the interpretation atp

This is why Leona is trying to rat the SKP dimension to not be a different dimension even though he's been debunked over and over.

Not trying to "rat" anything, that's quite an accusation, the contradictions for it being a dimension have been brought up, you considering them insufficient (with the only scan itself supporting it being questioned by Ghost before too) doesn't mean there aren't any

I will post a few options in the OP

 

[Hellscream]

No.

You did not post a single contradiction related to the dimension,
Don't try to come to a compromise when there is no compromise to make.

Nothing so far has been debunked.

 

[Overvoid69]

because the "debunks" have also been answered, it's a difference in the interpretation atp

There not equal interpretations if urs has been hard refuted.....

 

[Mommyleona]

Added some options to the OP
If cgms consider some other options reasonable or want to correct the assumptions in the current ones, I will add them to the OP/correct the OP accordingly

 

[ElJoaki5]

Looking at the options i think the 1 week thing is fine. I was leaning towards the visuals but the calculation is pretty grounded so it is fine like that. I can agree to the visual end too, but i am leaning towards the 130 km now.

Now that the options have been laid out and everything has been discussed, it would be preferable if discussion would pause as to not clog the thread.

The only things necessary at this point would be what Leona said.

If cgms consider some other options reasonable or want to correct the assumptions in the current ones, I will add them to the OP/correct the OP accordingly

And waiting for staff votes.

 

[Hellscream]

Looking at the options i think the 1 week thing is fine. I was leaning towards the visuals but the calculation is pretty grounded so it is fine like that. I can agree to the visual end too, but i am leaning towards the 130 km now.

Now that the options have been laid out and everything has been discussed, it would be preferable if discussion would pause as to not clog the thread.

The only things necessary at this point would be what Leona said.

And waiting for staff votes.

I would prefer if you didn't try to actively limit the supporters that have thoroughly debunked the entirety of this thread.

You do not even know the bleach cosmology, and are simply accepting whatever terminology that is laid out, despite the supporters showing that it's full of shit

all of the proposed options are shit and have been refuted.


In fact, i have not seen anything that supposedly debunks the original calculation.
So i would like to see the original thread where it was accepted.

 

[ElJoaki5]

I would prefer if you didn't try to actively limit the supporters that have thoroughly debunked the entirety of this thread.

You do not even know the bleach cosmology, and are simply accepting whatever terminology that is laid out, despite the supporters showing that it's full of shit

all of the proposed options are shit and have been refuted.

Sir this message adds nothing, thats why im tellying you to not yap in the first place. The stair end which is what i agreed to doesn't even rely on any of that to begin with.

 

[Hellscream]

Sir this message adds nothing, thats why im tellying you to not yap in the first place. The stair end which is what i agreed to doesn't even rely on any of that to begin with.

The stair calculation is using baseline human walking speed.
They stated that they were going to use Shunpo, which is a high speed movement technique that can cover massive distances in a split second.

You literally do not know a single thing what you're yapping about.

 

[Overvoid69]

Using the stairs and the week timeframe:
1 Week: 168 hours
Assuming they constantly walk for 2/3 of that taking into account how they need to sleep:
168 x (2/3) = 112 hours or 403200s
Saying they go down 2 steps per second, which is above average
Number of stairs is 403200 x 2 = 806400.
Using this, the rise between stairs would be 165mm or 16.5cm.
806400 * 16.5 = 13305600cm or 133km

1. A Ichigo with far less Spirit Energy can run for a week straight... There's no need to account for rest when he would be trying to get to a war on time.
2. Why are we using walking speed????? Shunpo is a speed amp that let's you perception blitz ur equals with "one step". He wouldn't be using every step. He'd be taking multiple huge leaps downwards, that's how Shunpo works.

Sir this message adds nothing, thats why im tellying you to not yap in the first place. The stair end which is what i agreed to doesn't even rely on any of that to begin with.

Your missing the point with shunpo he wouldn't be walking... U can't try and end the conversation when the OP is still trying to present options that have been debunked or is making bad proposals

We could also just use Subsonic since there using Shunpo:

Time = 1 week = 604,800 seconds
Speed = 34.3 m/s (Subsonic)
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Distance = 20,744,640 m or 20,000 km

 

[EnchantingGgg]

Not necessarily, no. Assuming Ichigo took the ENTIRE half of that 6000s timeframe (which is being really generous, as he more likely took less than that) and using average free fall speed, it would still only give the distance of around 164km, which is not far off from the proposed 50-85km (or 100km at the highest)

Late reply but I had stuff to do, isn’t this done assuming the TV cap is like that on earth? The average skydive speed is like 120 mph, but that wouldn’t be the case for atmospheric jumps. If we use the idea that SS has a normal earth atmosphere TV would expand like it did for the IRL 40km jump Alan Eustace did where the top speed of a human falling went like 6x the normal TV of a human, going upwards of like Mach 1 in fall speed

 

[ItsMeat]

@Rodriiogo
@Hellscream
@Mommyleona
@Infinite9Luck
@Overvoid69
@Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye
@Me
Not tagging David because it seems he got the point
@Calc Members(yes, ik, this isn't working as a tag, but whatever)

Ok, since this is going nowhere this way, so, as already suggested above, we should each just make a comment summing up all of our relevant points and then we let the Calc members decide what interpretation makes the most sense to them, although I also kindly ask them to also justify their choice so no one has any complaints. If you agree, drop a reaction.
Also, do not reply to other summaries when making yours

Guess I'll start:

I'll say it by now, after re-reading CFYOW, I came to the conclusion the current calc ought to stay

Debunking the points in the OP​

First argument: Grimmjow moving zig-zag, "lightning-like", but not at lightning speed.​

Well, whether the statement currently used also reffers to his speed or not, which, I must admit, is a bit vague, the truth is Grimmjow in base form did blitz Ginjo, Tsukishima and the others from so far away they had to use Spiritual Pressure perception to sense him(you can also see how he bulldozed through lightning in the scan) although Ginjo could react to a sneak attack at a close range with something close to lightning speed from a blind spot, Tsukishima reacted to a genuine lightning and had enough time to insert his sword into a tree and change its past, base Shinji also dodged lightning from a close range and so on.

Moreover, Tokinada can react to lightning speed attacks at a close range and he struggles keeping up against Ginjo

Thus, scaling his speed to lightning speed should be fine.

Second argument​

This one is blatantly wrong, Ichigo wasn't free-falling, he was "hurrying like hell" and we repeatedly see him accelerate.

The other 5 args​

They are all basically invalidated by the fact Soul Society is not a planet. The parallelism between the Soul Society and WotL of the Living mentioned in the OP reffers to the dimensions, which we already accept to be universes, not to Soul Society's ground and Earth.
Soul Society is just a huge flat place, where the day-night cycle is in the same stage for the entire world:

Moreover, it is explicitly a place with different laws(right under the title)

Here I mentioned an example of such different laws, which render any gravity or size related argument regarding the distance(which includes the last 5 args in the OP) pointless:

What evidence do I have to show when you already have the things OP argues against, or the flat Soul Society having the same gravity on its surface as that on Earth while its flatness also implies it must be smaller than Earth, as you say, yet the gravity being similar to Earth's implies it must be way larger? The truth is that we don't have any way to know Soul Society's size unless we are using Muken so any argument based on things related to it are invalid, whether they are for wanking or for downplaying the true value.

There is no way to determine Soul Society(ground)'s size except using Muken, which the wiki doesn't seem to accept currently. If we were to use Muken, the ground is just an infinite flat place. Regardless, using Earth cloud height when we don't know the size of the place, several laws, including gravity, work differently than IRL and it's not even a planet, but a flat place of either unknown or infinite size is just wrong.

Answering the 6000 seconds thing​

The 6k seconds are just the amount of time it takes for the barriers to close back after Ichigo arrived in Seiretei. However they are talking about this dome above Seiretei:

And other 71 barriers whose location is unknown, so we can't say whether they are near Reiokyu or a few meters above the Seiretei Membrane. The full quote:

The number of Spirit Particle
in Seireitei is falling!

What's going on?

There's a hole... in the Spirit Shield!

So the "key"...opened the port.

The Shihakusho that Ichigo Kurosaki
is using is probably an Ōken fabric with bones and hair of members of Division Zero. Thanks to its durability and protective qualities, Ichigo Kurosaki was able to break through the 72 layer barrier that exists between the Royal Palace and the Seireitei unharmed. However... based on regenerative rate
of the Spirit Shield, It'd take 6000 seconds before closing again.During that interval, a crack opened that allows the passage to and from the Royal Palace.

So yes, there is absolutely 0 evidence that 6k minutes is a reliable timeframe for anything.

Conclusion:​

I suggest we leave the current Calc as it is and wait for Cour 4 which will come within less than 2 months when we most definetely will have a cosmology blog and perhaps Kubo will give us more usable details for the Reiokyu-Seiretei distance.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Leaving the current calc as it is won’t work. It’s wrong. Waiting for the same outcome when we could do it now is kinda pointless.

What will anime do that it hasn’t already done? The palace was already shown as only a bit above the clouds, they won’t magically show it in outer space to justify the 14 million kilometers distance.

 

[Hellscream]

Leaving the current calc as it is won’t work. It’s wrong. Waiting for the same outcome when we could do it now is kinda pointless.

What will anime do that it hasn’t already done? The palace was already shown as only a bit above the clouds, they won’t magically show it in outer space to justify the 14 million kilometers distance.

The cloud argument is trash, and does not address the distance.

Exact same thing with the mesosphere argument.

Either way, i also do not see any reason to change the calc at all.

Edit: the thread i posted, is another calc that utilized the position, relative to the sun that supports the prior calc that was already accepted.

Reiokyu-Seireitei Distance Change

Intro So, with the new Bleach anime as the primary canon, I decided to recalc the Reiokyu-Seireitei distance using what we see in the anime rather than the manga. Calcs Here is the old calc. Here is the new calc. The old calc presupposes Ichigo's travel speed, and while I believe the...

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[Rodriiogo]

Genuinely this has gotten to a point of straight up denial and ignorance of the points brought up. At this point just let CGMs read the thread and make their decision. You laid out your counters and all of them are already addressed so I won't respond for the literal 500th time just because people wanna ignore stuff for the sake of getting bigger sizes because they want bigger numbers for their verse.

You yourselves think your arguments are good and that I "didn't address yours", then let CGMs just read now, surely you are confident at this point that they will pick yours man and I'm tired of laying out the same arguments and having to explain why the way of getting timeframes are ridiculous, why the sizes are ridiculous, why the dimension stuff is ridiculous even tho it got debunked like a total of 7 times during the thread. Genuinely unbelievable.

 

[ItsMeat]

Leaving the current calc as it is won’t work. It’s wrong.

I mean, I debunked all the arguments against it and explained why 80+% of the arguments in this CRT are simply pointless

Waiting for the same outcome when we could do it now is kinda pointless.
What will anime do that it hasn’t already done? The palace was already shown as only a bit above the clouds, they won’t magically show it in outer space to justify the 14 million kilometers distance.

He may give us other time frames or speed statements, or he may directly tell us the distance in one of these

Or we may have new feats involving it that would help calculate the distance.

 

[Damage3245]

Leaving the current calc as it is won’t work. It’s wrong. Waiting for the same outcome when we could do it now is kinda pointless.

What will anime do that it hasn’t already done? The palace was already shown as only a bit above the clouds, they won’t magically show it in outer space to justify the 14 million kilometers distance.

That does seem like an excessive figure. Toshiro was worried at multiple points of Gerard falling from the palace and crushing the Seireitei here and here, along with being worried about falling rubble, but my rough calculating would put the terminal velocity of a falling Gerard to take over 1.5 years to crash into the ground from that height. Toshiro was acting like it was an imminent threat to the Seireitei.

 

[EnchantingGgg]

Leaving the current calc as it is won’t work. It’s wrong. Waiting for the same outcome when we could do it now is kinda pointless.

What will anime do that it hasn’t already done? The palace was already shown as only a bit above the clouds, they won’t magically show it in outer space to justify the 14 million kilometers distance.

I’ll say this for the anime, and a point that got ignored earlier but I assume nobody saw it, how does the visual argument account for Wandenreich changing so radically? The sun disappears, there are zero clouds and there isn’t a moon in sight. If we are to assume that this is in the upper atmosphere, when we see the Lille clones fall, if the Wadenreich skybox is totally blacked out with no sun or moon, shouldn’t it be the case that the SS skybox at least partially changes?

Also in their argument like 10 eps have passed but 6k seconds haven’t, and when we go back to the SS, we see the moon being pretty exceptionally high in the sky in spite of not that long ago Yhwach invading the SKP and when that was done the stationary sun was still in its place, before then being turned off in the span of like 30 seconds. Bleach is a verse where at least 2 guys can make fake suns so the idea that the SKP has a fake sun and fake clouds isn’t entirely out of the question. Sorry if this was wordy (also I do agree that 14 million km CANNOT stay up how in gods name did that pass????)

 

[Mommyleona]

1. A Ichigo with far less Spirit Energy can run for a week straight... There's no need to account for rest when he would be trying to get to a war on time.

Sure

2. Why are we using walking speed?????

wasnt walking speed, but an above average stair per second count, i also said the assumptions can be corrected if cgms deem so necessary

We could also just use Subsonic since there using Shunpo:

Time = 1 week = 604,800 seconds
Speed = 34.3 m/s (Subsonic)
-
Distance = 20,744,640 m or 20,000 km

why are we using subsonic speed, when there is no statement for that and it would be just hiding calculations
not to mention spamming shunpo would be far more tiring than simply walking

Well, whether the statement currently used also reffers to his speed or not, which, I must admit, is a bit vague, the truth is Grimmjow in base form did blitz Ginjo, Tsukishima and the others from so far away they had to use Spiritual Pressure perception to sense him(you can also see how he bulldozed through lightning in the scan) although Ginjo could react to a sneak attack at a close range with something close to lightning speed from a blind spot, Tsukishima reacted to a genuine lightning and had enough time to insert his sword into a tree and change its past, base Shinji also dodged lightning from a close range and so on.

Moreover, Tokinada can react to lightning speed attacks at a close range and he struggles keeping up against Ginjo

All of this is calc stacking and doesn't matter. (those are also reaction/combat speed feats at best)

 

[M3X_2.0]

I mean, I debunked all the arguments against it

There is nothing to debunk about the current calc. It is wrong, period. The speed used for Ichigo’s travel speed is that equal of lightning but the scan provided to prove that doesn’t imply that at all.

I don’t care what the substitute calc ends up being, as long as the current calc is removed.

 

[Mommyleona]

I’ll say this for the anime, and a point that got ignored earlier but I assume nobody saw it, how does the visual argument account for Wandenreich changing so radically? The sun disappears, there are zero clouds and there isn’t a moon in sight. If we are to assume that this is in the upper atmosphere, when we see the Lille clones fall, if the Wadenreich skybox is totally blacked out with no sun or moon, shouldn’t it be the case that the SS skybox at least partially changes?

Yhwach at that point can affect universes and reshape things in moments so...

 

[ElJoaki5]

Ok i gave the stair thing a more accurate try as a cgm so.



Ichigo: 1.81 m = 149 px
Vertical distance moved in one turn: 428 px = 5.19919463087 m
Stairs diameter: 463 px = 5.62436241611 m
Distance moved in one turn: sqrt(5.19919463087^2 + (5.62436241611*pi)^2) = 18.4185039482 m
So for every 18.4185039482 m moved you’d go up 5.19919463087 m

1 week = 604800 s
Assuming 2/3 of that is traveling: 403200 s
Superhuman speed: 12.43 m/s
Full distance traveled: 403200*12.34 = 4975488 m
4975488/18.4185039482*5.19919463087 = 1404485.97608 m = 1404 km

If knowledgeable members think no rest is fine or whatever then make a quick change.

 

[ItsMeat]

All of this is calc stacking and doesn't matter. (those are also reaction/combat speed feats at best)

Blitzing from far away someone able to react to lightning speed at close range is by no means calc stacking if you don't calculate it at all and does count for travel speed.

TS Ichigo's travel speed>Grimmjow's travel speed>Lightning speed

 

[M3X_2.0]

Ok i gave the stair thing a more accurate try as a cgm so.



Ichigo: 1.81 m = 149 px
Vertical distance moved in one turn: 428 px = 5.19919463087 m
Stairs diameter: 463 px = 5.62436241611 m
Distance moved in one turn: sqrt(5.19919463087^2 + (5.62436241611*pi)^2) = 18.4185039482 m
So for every 18.4185039482 m moved you’d go up 5.19919463087 m

1 week = 604800 s
Assuming 2/3 of that is traveling: 403200 s
Superhuman speed: 12.43 m/s
Full distance traveled: 403200*12.34 = 4975488 m
4975488/18.4185039482*5.19919463087 = 1404485.97608 m = 1404 km

If knowledgeable members think no rest is fine or whatever then make a quick change.

Post a version without the rest.

 

[Mommyleona]

if you don't calculate it at all

hiding calculations
you actually can't even calc speed like that to begin with as it's calc stacking too

 

[ElJoaki5]

Post a version without the rest.

12.43*604800/18.4185039482*5.19919463087 = 2122094.08622 m = 2122 km

 

[ItsMeat]

There is nothing to debunk about the current calc. It is wrong, period. The speed used for Ichigo’s travel speed is that equal of lightning but the scan provided to prove that doesn’t imply that at all.

I don’t care what the substitute calc ends up being, as long as the current calc is removed.

Does what I said about Grimmjow's speed constitute for enough reason to still scale it to lightning speed and thus, just editing the current blog to properly justify his speed could do it?

 

[EnchantingGgg]

That does seem like an excessive figure. Toshiro was worried at multiple points of Gerard falling from the palace and crushing the Seireitei here and here, along with being worried about falling rubble, but my rough calculating would put the terminal velocity of a falling Gerard to take over 1.5 years to crash into the ground from that height. Toshiro was acting like it was an imminent threat to the Seireitei.

Toshiro is making a super knowledge claim here no? Not only is he young to the point of not really knowing anyone who went to SZ afaik, he’s never actually traveled to the SKP without just teleporting. Again the 14 million km thing is a meme but this line or argumentation doesn’t work due to the nature of the claim being made and who’s making it

 

[M3X_2.0]

Does what I said about Grimmjow's speed constitute for enough reason to still scale it to lightning speed and thus, just editing the current blog to properly justify his speed could do it?

Everything you showed is either combat or reaction speed, to my knowledge of our standards.

 

[EnchantingGgg]

Yhwach at that point can affect universes and reshape things in moments so...

If that’s the case why didn’t the Soul Society get influenced? Like we literally see a moon in the sky and the jet black sky of Wandenreich isn’t present there. If, again, we are proposing they exist within 50km of each other this would influence at least partially the SS sky, no? I’m personally of the opinion that this should get voided, cuz idk how you quantify distance of something so spatially separated and any calc for speed being used to get the verse FTL or whatever using this calc should also go, however I cannot in my heart of hearts believe it’s 50km

 

[ItsMeat]

hiding calculations
you actually can't even calc speed like that to begin with as it's calc stacking too

"Hiding calculations" is bad for the same reason calc stacking is - leads to inflated values. Here, on the other hand, it leads to lower results since we are using Lightning speed for Ichigo although Ichigo's travel speed > Grimmjow's travel speed > Lightning speed. I don't really see why it would be a problem if we use this lower end

 

[M3X_2.0]

12.43*604800/18.4185039482*5.19919463087 = 2122094.08622 m = 2122 km

Blog the calc so I can evaluate

 

[ItsMeat]

Everything you showed is either combat or reaction speed, to my knowledge of our standards.

I mean, in the scan, it's pretty clear Grimmjow uses his travel speed there

Grimmjow dashes towards them from far away and then stops in the middle of the battelground