Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[Breadbear83]

So you believe that slo-mo could still be used for the Denji interaction?

yeah, as im with my CGM thread, id tell you to make another one about this, but i can get scans visibly showing the blitz, with explanation for you

i dont see that Powers blood was actually immobile while Kishibe was moving until they were broken (and life king comment was only liked by you and anonymous learner, probably no CGM read it)

would take me a few minutes, may share it as a link to Imgchest

 

[Breadbear83]

So you believe that slo-mo could still be used for the Denji interaction?

ok thread would be explained like this:

in Episode 10 of season 1 of CSM, Kishibe completely blitzes Denji, in this thread it was rejected using slow mo nor 1px method as Denji does seems to move, but he may not have actually moved.

(important detail of the feat is that Denji was actively moving his axe towards Kishibe before the blitz)

Here you can see the Feat in more detail

in scene 1 and 3, its clear that Denji visibly didnt move until Kishibes kick landed on him, thats where he does seems to move, and its from the kick as blood comes out, his neck goes down, his glasses go flying, and the axe goes slower instead of towards kishibe like Denji was actively doing

but in scene 2 is where it was pointed out that he moved (which already is only 1/3 scenes showing movement to reject it, its not an objective rejection)

however the movements denji does in scene 2 seems to be an animation error of having the effects of the landed kick, before the kick actually landed

1. Denji glasses fall for no reason, they couldnt fly from his own movement if they already didnt when he was going towards kishibe, and he fell from 1 floor to reach him, in scene 1 and 3 they also flew (and in scene 2 they fly more when the kick is landed)
2. his axe goes slightly lower, even though he was actively going towards kishibe, in scene 1 and 3 this also happened due to the kick

so as an likely animation error within the only of the 3 scenes where he moves, it would make the feat more likely to be used Slow mo or 1px method, likely the 1px as @ElJoaki5 could properly pixel scale the size of a pixel

 

[GunshyFever]

It doesn't seem like a bad thing to propose. It's worth a shot.

 

[Breadbear83]

It doesn't seem like a bad thing to propose. It's worth a shot.

btw when Power throws a blood spear at Kishibe, the spear literally travells like 2 meters from the door in 1 frame, which would be 48 m/s and scales to lifting strength

i could do that as separately from the thread, so do it now if you want

 

[GunshyFever]

btw when Power throws a blood spear at Kishibe, the spear literally travells like 2 meters from the door in 1 frame, which would be 48 m/s and scales to lifting strength

i could do that as separately from the thread, so do it now if you want

Take your time, we don't have to rush everything. But would it give anything notable in contrast to what we already have?

 

[Breadbear83]

Take your time, we don't have to rush everything. But would it give anything notable in contrast to what we already have?

the spear actually moved 4 meters as power threw it behind the door, but the top speed were visibly 48 m/s, it may be Class 1, if the spear was heavy about Class 5, gonna take a look at it

 

[Breadbear83]

Take your time, we don't have to rush everything. But would it give anything notable in contrast to what we already have?

nvm about the LS, even if assume it had the whole acceleration from 0 to 48 m/s in 1 frame (it didnt), it would only be 731kg, its just good as subsonic throwing speed

i only did a speed calc of the throwing

 

[GunshyFever]

nvm about the LS, even if assume it had the whole acceleration from 0 to 48 m/s in 1 frame (it didnt), it would only be 731kg, its just good as subsonic throwing speed

I more so meant the blood spear coming from above. Would the result be any different?

 

[Breadbear83]

I more so meant the blood spear coming from above. Would the result be any different?

I'm talking about a feat that I thought would have good LS and a bit of speed

As for The spear falling on top of Kishibe, as I said earlier, they are only immobile after Kishibe breaks them, when Kishibe Is moving his body, many spears move down

If I did one a CGM would point that out, at most I could try to see some frame where Kishibe moves several times faster than a spear, but it hardly would be supersonic

 

[Epiccheev]

Misterbombastic, bomba fantastic

 

[GunshyFever]

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Did the Falling Gravity CRT do anything? it's city level+ but She's already large mountain with tele no?

 

[Machmatej]

Did the Falling Gravity CRT do anything? it's city level+ but She's already large mountain with tele no?

Class T LS ig

 

[Breadbear83]

Did the Falling Gravity CRT do anything? it's city level+ but She's already large mountain with tele no?

Is higher within 7B than 100% Gun Devil KE (even if adding a little more weight and speed that I calced) but it specially has over 250x higher LS than Part 2 Pochita Feat

 

[Bruh]

however Makima Mentioned that there was once a devil embodying the concept of a star that broke Childrens minds,

Wasnt it the light of a star and not the actual star itself, so the Devil might not necessarily be Star lv. But stuff like Aging creating a realm with an actual Sun still exists, and if Devils>concept then stuff like Moon Devil is still a thing

So far, a lot of statistics are going to be changing, including removing mid tiers from being High Hypersonic and placing them closer to bullet timers.

Oh, are they getting nerf so soon ?

 

[Breadbear83]

Wasnt it the light of a star and not the actual star itself, so the Devil might not necessarily be Star lv. But stuff like Aging creating a realm with an actual Sun still exists, and if Devils>concept then stuff like Moon Devil is still a thing

Oh, are they getting nerf so soon ?

Moon devil is stated by Yoru that it wouldn't be a primal devil level cuz she discarded it as not strong enough, so it likely embodies the whole concept of moon, not just the light

About high hypersonic characters, if we get Kishibe feat accepted again and I get the Violence Fiend dodging Rezees explosion calc made (should be this week, semi-promise) then less would be downgraded

 

[Bruh]

Did the Falling Gravity CRT do anything? it's city level+ but She's already large mountain with tele no?

This is for her weakened form and by extension Lil' D. But pretty sure the God tier's physicals are gonna scale to this via Yoru's feat

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

 

[Breadbear83]

I more so meant the blood spear coming from above. Would the result be any different?

Hey gunshy, in current Yorus profile and yours profile, the room 606 sword has Class T LS by it freeing Yoru from the octopus devil that later on could force Pochita to spit out the ear devil

The sword has Multi City Block+ (above 550 Tons of TNT) AP, but it having Class T LS already means it would have an AP relative to that Class, the Class T comes from Pochita's throwing His hearth: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...an:_ReCalcs..._IN_SPACE!#Helluva_Throwing_Arm

The same feat has a KE that was used for the LS of 9.34 Kilotons of TNT, couldn't the sword scale to that AP?

The fact that the Octopus Devil still got low diffed by Pochita shows that he's just has high LS and doesn't scales to the City level AP and durability, but could scale to the AP of the LS feat

 

[Bruh]

Do we even scale characters AP to the respective energy of the LS they to ? Ive seen profiles with extreme disparity between their AP and LS via scaling

 

[GunshyFever]

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The sword will not have LS regardless and it does not scale to Pochita nonetheless. The Octopus only scales due to squeezing the Mouth Devil out of Pochita.

Do we even scale characters AP to the respective energy of the LS they to ?

No.

 

[Breadbear83]

Calc 2 and 4 are accepted, calc 5 was rejected but too minor to bother

Calc 3 (pochita tossing ground) Eljoaki5 accepted a recalc based on the original methodica, only changing the weight, it gave nearly baseline Class M, lower than snake devil LS tho

Dunno if maybe in the future I'll try to see if the quicker timeframe gets accepted (would give over 30000 Metric tons), as theres already 2 CGMs disagreeing with it

(Gunshy is the CRT about Oregon sword coming soon? Still looking for some CGM to see if they accept the violent fragmentation that Eljoaki5 agreed but wanted someone else to give their opinion)

@AbaddonTheDisappointment accepted violent frag for Oregon sword so Eljoaki5 eventually would change that in his calc

Tomorrow I'll try rebunking the Kishibe feat in s thread

 

[Pearly0nsams]

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

holy shit sesbian lex