Creation vs Boblox

[Lort15]

Yeah sure. Besides, John's time stop only lasts for about 10 seconds and the cast can easily be seen so nothing is stopping Marinette from doing whatever self-whirling thingamajig she has to protect against spells.
It's been a min since I had a John EBG match too so I guess.

should i add guardian key? i mean lb doesn't have much hax to deal with john but given enough time she can defeat john with lucky charm

 

[Arkansalter2]

Would it be a stomp for LB due to Cata?

 

[Lort15]

Would it be a stomp for LB due to Cata?

she needs to touch also idk why she has cat miraculous as standart equipment cat noir is an active superhero

 

[Arkansalter2]

she needs to touch also idk why she has cat miraculous as standart equipment cat noir is an active superhero

Yeah but I'm also seeing Buttyfly Miraculous which is gonna gagglefuck John.

 

[Lort15]

Would it be a stomp for LB due to Cata?

i can remove cat miraculous if you want, cataclysm jumps her to mountain level

 

[Lort15]

Yeah but I'm also seeing Buttyfly Miraculous which is gonna gagglefuck John.

well i can restrict it to its potentially can jump her to low 2-C

 

[Arkansalter2]

i can remove cat miraculous if you want, cataclysm jumps her to mountain level

Standard equipment. Can't do that unfortunately.

 

[Lort15]

Standard equipment. Can't do that unfortunately.

you can if it jumps them to another tier

 

[Arkansalter2]

you can if it jumps them to another tier

Hmm.. restrict anything that might make it a stomp but don't do too much.

 

[Lort15]

Hmm.. restrict anything that might make it a stomp but don't do too much.

yeah so restricting cat miraculous and butterfly are fine?

 

[Arkansalter2]

yeah so restricting cat miraculous and butterfly are fine?

Yeah along with any other miraculous that might gagglefuck John.

 

[Lort15]

Yeah along with any other miraculous that might gagglefuck John.

well i can only remove butterfly and cat i suppose, is player able to use their all powers at the same time?

 

[Arkansalter2]

well i can only remove butterfly and cat i suppose, is player able to use their all powers at the same time?

 

[Lort15]

i will give arguments tomorrow its late for me to discuss you can give wincons for john i will respond later

 

[Arkansalter2]

i will give arguments tomorrow its late for me to discuss you can give wincons for john i will respond later

at least change the match first.

 

[Lort15]

at least change the match first.

i did

 

[Arkansalter2]

Watch my f***ass pull out the meanest timestop argument but I'll get to that later.
Alright so John EBG has 35 elements total. She will also learn to hate these moves. Going clockwise from top left, we have Ace Up The Sleeve of "Illusion Element" which inverts controls and is spammable, The World of "Time Element" (the time stop in question), Neutron Punch of "Space Element" which is a contact spell (which aren't really contact spells, just close range funky polygon lolol spells) which paralyzes before absolutely slamming her with a punch, Splitting Slime of "Slime Element" which summons an explosive slime ball from up to which stuns and paralyzes and is easy to hit, and Ash Pulse of "Phoenix Element" which shoots a singular projectile which splits into 7 projectiles dealing massive damage.

 

[Lort15]

Watch my f***ass pull out the meanest timestop argument but I'll get to that later.
Alright so John EBG has 35 elements total. She will also learn to hate these moves. Going clockwise from top left, we have Ace Up The Sleeve of "Illusion Element" which inverts controls and is spammable, The World of "Time Element" (the time stop in question), Neutron Punch of "Space Element" which is a contact spell (which aren't really contact spells, just close range funky polygon lolol spells) which paralyzes before absolutely slamming her with a punch, Splitting Slime of "Slime Element" which summons an explosive slime ball from up to which stuns and paralyzes and is easy to hit, and Ash Pulse of "Phoenix Element" which shoots a singular projectile which splits into 7 projectiles dealing massive damage.

Does the player have NPI? If not Dragonbug can turn into wind or lightning to hit the player, also ox miraculous is immune to the most of player's abilities because of it's invulnurability, other than we have bee miraculous which grants power of action, it allows you to paralyze your opponent, we have pig miraculous which grants power of jubiliton if the player tries to attack Ladybug she can use gift and forces him to wait until 24 hour pasta also i didn't check the player's LS if it's not higher than class g Ladybug has superior LS then we also have monkey miraculous that power modifies, nulls, transmutates the player's powers if the player gets hit by the toy created from monkey miraculous it's all over for him kinda he won't be able to control his powers anymore

 

[Arkansalter2]

Does the player have NPI? If not Dragonbug can turn into wind or lightning to hit the player,

Is that spammable?

Also, how fast can Ladybug change Miraculous? Because from what I've seen, she has a "cast time" to where she has to do a flashy animation in order to change. Player won't really let that happen.

 

[Lort15]

Is that spammable?

yes she can also stay in that form as much as she wants

Also, how fast can Ladybug change Miraculous? Because from what I've seen, she has a "cast time" to where she has to do a flashy animation in order to change. Player won't really let that happen.

she just needs to take it from her yoyo and lb can dodge his attacks with using yoyo swing

 

[Arkansalter2]

yes she can also stay in that form as much as she wants

Concerning.

she just needs to take it from her yoyo and lb can dodge his attacks with using yoyo swing

Yeah imma have to pull out the Time Stop GGs argument.

Player AP with roughly 1.9x that of Ladybug's so she's left at the mercy of Player doing an insta-gib combo that will put her down really quickly.

 

[Lort15]

Concerning.

Yeah imma have to pull out the Time Stop GGs argument.

Player AP with roughly 1.9x that of Ladybug's so she's left at the mercy of Player doing an insta-gib combo that will put her down really quickly.

does he have any travel speed feat ladybug has hypersonic+ travel speed also his ts is 10 secs idk if he have enough speed to close the 20 meters distance their speed seems like regular human speed or peak human

 

[Arkansalter2]

does he have any travel speed feat ladybug has hypersonic+ travel speed

Yes.

 

[Lort15]

Yes.

how fast is this?

 

[Arkansalter2]

how fast is this?

Many transportation spells teleport like Light Emission. That's really all John EBG has to do to close the distance. From there, it's just a Time Stop + GGs.

 

[Lort15]

Many transportation spells teleport like Light Emission. That's really all John EBG has to do to close the distance. From there, it's just a Time Stop + GGs.

the ap gap isnt enough to one shot but alr i can just start her with ox miraculous for non stomp xd

 

[Lort15]

also i've seen the timestop scan the timestop has a limited distance ladybug could just avoid that range with hypersonic+ travel speed easily, okay so lb avoids timestop with her travel speed and there is 2 mins cd for john to use ts again so ladybug could use horse miraculous to BFR john with universal range or to the sun, she can also use dragon and wind dragon to use wind dragon and could deal a lot of damage until john gets ko

 

[Arkansalter2]

the ap gap isnt enough to one shot but alr i can just start her with ox miraculous for non stomp xd

Woah now. You forget that John EBG has combos that can insta-gib those equal to John EBG.

 

[Arkansalter2]

also i've seen the timestop scan the timestop has a limited distance ladybug could just avoid that range with hypersonic+ travel speed easily

One problem with that.
How is Ladybug gonna know when it's coming? Plus, once one is caught in the polygon before the actual time stop, they're essentially cooked. Players have a hard time trying to get out of it once they're caught in the polygon. It has a really fast cast time as well.

the ap gap isnt enough to one shot but alr i can just start her with ox miraculous for non stomp xd

Yeah so how on gods green earth is John EBG supposed to kill Ladybug if she has that?

 

[Lort15]

Woah now. You forget that John EBG has combos that can insta-gib those equal to John EBG.

they can be dodged and some of them are close range, ladybug is very agile that allows her to dodge multiple lasers, attacks etc

 

[Lort15]

One problem with that.
How is Ladybug gonna know when it's coming? Plus, once one is caught in the polygon before the actual time stop, they're essentially cooked. Players have a hard time trying to get out of it once they're caught in the polygon. It has a really fast cast time as well.

she can react to it the opening speed isnt really that fast, as we see its just players travel speeds arent that fast as hypersonic+ i remember that game bro i was too slow in that game lol

Yeah so how on gods green earth is John EBG supposed to kill Ladybug if she has that?

Due to AP? i might not add it too the ts range is literally mid

 

[Arkansalter2]

Due to AP? i might not add it too the ts range is literally mid

How would AP do anything is Ox Miraculous makes her invulnerable and is spammy?
Plus that power isn't really on the profile so that's pretty fallacious.

players travel speeds arent that fast as hypersonic+ i remember that game bro i was too slow in that game lol

One can think that, however player can actively avoid attacks like meteors and cloud to ground lightning and light attacks.

horse miraculous to BFR john with universal range or to the sun

Chronostasis has that covered.

she can also use dragon and wind dragon to use wind dragon and could deal a lot of damage until john gets ko

Absorbing Slime deflects projectiles and turns them into projectiles of his own and gives damage reduction. Spiky Shield also gives him a barrier that deals damage to others around him and gives damage reduction.

Might I mention that John EBG has healing spells like Slime Buddies (that can be used on himself) to give him essentially passive healing or Blue Arson that summons flames that heal him and damage others?

 

[Lort15]

How would AP do anything is Ox Miraculous makes her invulnerable and is spammy?
Plus that power isn't really on the profile so that's pretty fallacious.

Ox miraculous invulnurability works a bit different check this it's just we forgot to add it check her standart equipments she has the ox miraculous in this key

One can think that, however player can actively avoid attacks like meteors and cloud to ground lightning and light attacks.

that's reaction and combat speed not travel welp

Chronostasis has that covered.

i see but it needs to be activated first he won't be able to realize the portal gets opened because it's MFTL+ attack speed

Absorbing Slime deflects projectiles and turns them into projectiles of his own and gives damage reduction. Spiky Shield also gives him a barrier that deals damage to others around him and gives damage reduction.

that's good but it doesnt last long also john doesnt have NPI to interact with elemental intangibility so its useless anyway

Might I mention that John EBG has healing spells like Slime Buddies (that can be used on himself) to give him essentially passive healing or Blue Arson that summons flames that heal him and damage others?

those slimes are pretty slow bro ladybug can literally avoid them easily, that's good but still ladybug can dodge it due to reaction, combat and travel speed

 

[Arkansalter2]

Ox miraculous invulnurability works a bit different check this it's just we forgot to add it check her standart equipments she has the ox miraculous in this key

Only against Miraculous powers. John EBG is not a miraculous. The attacks will still work regardless.

i see but it needs to be activated first he won't be able to realize the portal gets opened because it's MFTL+ attack speed

Equalize speed bc that is what we call a speed blitz. If Ladybug wins due to speed blitzing attacks then it can't be added.

 

[Lort15]

Only against Miraculous powers. John EBG is not a miraculous. The attacks will still work regardless.

not its to all other powers not just miraculous literally check the statement, it doesnt need to be only miraculous powers

Equalize speed bc that is what we call a speed blitz. If Ladybug wins due to speed blitzing attacks then it can't be added.

equalized speeds doesn't affects amps as far as i know and its actually wins via BFR she can open the portal from the ground

• As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added.
  
  "a faster opponent" ladybug is faster than john this text only includes faster opponent not the slower one

 

[Arkansalter2]

not its to all other powers not just miraculous literally check the statement, it doesnt need to be only miraculous powers

So they're only vulnerable to physical attacks.
So the only thing that would actually harm Ladybug is Neutron Punch if she does pop that.

equalized speeds doesn't affects amps as far as i know and its actually wins via BFR she can open the portal from the ground

Scan?

 

[Lort15]

So they're only vulnerable to physical attacks.
So the only thing that would actually harm Ladybug is Neutron Punch if she does pop that.

Ladybug is basically invulnurable to all special powers that miraculouses have but physical damage yes

Scan?

 

[Arkansalter2]

Ladybug is basically invulnurable to all special powers that miraculouses have but physical damage yes

This seems so avoidable that it doesn't even make any sense. John EBG has plenty of ways to avoid that like Inertia + Rainbow Shockwave.

 

[Lort15]

This seems so avoidable that it doesn't even make any sense. John EBG has plenty of ways to avoid that like Inertia + Rainbow Shockwave.

he won't be able to react to it because of the speed gap ;-; also it literally opens under his legs too

 

[Arkansalter2]

also it literally opens under his legs too

Does it suck him up or does he has to willingly drop into it?