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[Lort15]

Does it suck him up or does he has to willingly drop into it?

willingly drops into it

 

[Arkansalter2]

willingly drops into it

Yeah uhhh.. lots of spells hold him in place and player is NOT gonna let that happen easily. He has Fling Tech that will just fling him ALL DA WAY UP and just out of there.

 

[Lort15]

Yeah uhhh.. lots of spells hold him in place and player is NOT gonna let that happen easily. He has Fling Tech that will just fling him ALL DA WAY UP and just out of there.

can he even survive in space?

 

[Arkansalter2]

can he even survive in space?

He wouldn't even end up there because he would just fling himself out the portal or out of the portal's way.

The portal won't work.

 

[Lort15]

He wouldn't even end up there because he would just fling himself out the portal or out of the portal's way.

he won't be able to react to portal lol he will literally fall into it while opening due to speed, also he cant get out from the portal because it will get closed with the same speed

 

[Arkansalter2]

he won't be able to react to portal lol he will literally fall into it while opening due to speed, also he cant get out from the portal because it will get closed with the same speed

Had lady miraculous even used the portal ability? We know Adrien has, but for all we know, it could be OOC.

 

[Lort15]

Had lady miraculous even used the portal ability? We know Adrien has, but for all we know, it could be OOC.

yes in the scan i have given literally she turned into pegabug offscreen and BFRed them to sun

 

[Arkansalter2]

yes in the scan i have given literally she turned into pegabug offscreen and BFRed them to sun

She has an audible cue of when she's gonna do it sooo.. Player will know that something is coming so he'll fling tech upward to avoid it.

 

[Lort15]

She has an audible cue of when she's gonna do it sooo.. Player will know that something is coming so he'll fling tech upward to avoid it.

he doesn't have knowledge about Ladybug's power so he wouldn't know how to use it

 

[Arkansalter2]

he doesn't have knowledge about Ladybug's power so he wouldn't know how to use it

Again, She has an audio cue so John EBG just fling to avoid stuff going at him.

 

[Lort15]

Again, She has an audio

cue so John EBG just fling to avoid stuff going at him.

Voyage can be used as instant it has 2 ways, as a projectile or instant pegabug uses instant for BFR so he can't dodge it if she unify her own miraculous with horse

 

[Arkansalter2]

Voyage can be used as instant it has 2 ways, as a projectile or instant pegabug uses instant for BFR so he can't dodge it if she unify her own miraculous with horse

He can't dodge it but realistically, Player isn't stupid. He's dealt with people wanting to teleport him before and he will have ways to prevent it.

 

[Lort15]

He can't dodge it but realistically, Player isn't stupid. He's dealt with people wanting to teleport him before and he will have ways to prevent it.

unless he have precog or speed amps that it boost him to mftl+ he wont be able to avoid it he will get teleported if he have any way to comeback from a universal range this can be count too

 

[Arkansalter2]

unless he have precog or speed amps that it boost him to mftl+ he wont be able to avoid it he will get teleported

You... just said that they have to willingly fall into it...
Player.. is.. not.. stupid. He can very easily Rainbow Shockwave himself out of harms way.

 

[AthelChan]

Following, what are the arguments so far on both sides?

 

[Arkansalter2]

Following, what are the arguments so far on both sides?

John EBG: Paralysis Spam, Combo Spam
Ladybug: BFR, Limited Invulnerability.

 

[Lort15]

You... just said that they have to willingly fall into it...
Player.. is.. not.. stupid. He can very easily Rainbow Shockwave himself out of harms way.

i mean the space will take him like that even cat noir who had ftl+ combat reactions couldnt avoid it because he wasnt able to react

 

[Arkansalter2]

i mean the space will take him like that even cat noir who had ftl+ combat reactions couldnt avoid it because he wasnt able to react

I can see the scan, however...
As you can see that the guy who fell in teleported back.
There is a pretty good chance that Player will Pre-Place a Chronostasis in case things get out of hand and just nope himself out of a combo or that BFR. Time users can do that too.

Plus, the portal can likely be used AGAINST ladybug.
Because what's stopping Playerfrom simply avoiding the portal, using Disorder Ignition, falling into the portal willingly, and then swapping with Ladybug? She will not expect that in the slightest because not only does she not know what the move does or what the line does, but she doesn't have SS type 3 either.

 

[Lort15]

I can see the scan, however...

As you can see that the guy who fell in teleported back.

he used time manipulation and he has resistance to cosmic radiation, extereme heat, etc... meanwhile john doesnt

There is a pretty good chance that Player will Pre-Place a Chronostasis in case things get out of hand and just nope himself out of a combo or that BFR. Time users can do that too.

if he starts with a setpoint for his time manip it could work but why would he do that as a first move?

Plus, the portal can likely be used AGAINST ladybug.

not really if he have ox miraculous + if she gets bfred to close sun she can literally use her space form to fly back earth

Because what's stopping Playerfrom simply avoiding the portal, using Disorder Ignition, falling into the portal willingly, and then swapping with Ladybug? She will not expect that in the slightest because not only does she not know what the move does or what the line does, but she doesn't have SS type 3 either.

his reaction speed

 

[Arkansalter2]

if he starts with a setpoint for his time manip it could work but why would he do that as a first move?

Because he frickin can because anybody who has chronostasis uses it as a "F*** outta here" tool.

not really if he have ox miraculous + if she gets bfred to close sun she can literally use her space form to fly back earth

Space form.. I don't see that anywhere.

his reaction speed

Chronostasis.

My argument still applies.

not really if he have ox miraculous

Ox miraculous protects against magic damage but not physical damage or paralysis. Disorder ignition does both of the latter.

 

[Lort15]

Because he frickin can because anybody who has chronostasis uses it as a "F*** outta here" tool.

sorry i'm not familiar with the player you are talking he has all elements now i mean just because he can do it doesn't he would do it in the character he might use timestop or another element instead

Space form.. I don't see that anywhere.

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Marinette Dupain-Cheng is one of the two titular main protagonists (alongside Adrien Agreste) of Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir and Miraculous World. She is a former student in Miss Bustier's class at Collège Françoise Dupont in Paris, France, and a budding fashion designer who wants to...

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Chronostasis.

My argument still applies.

i might miss something i will check the scan again but as far as i have seen the ability isn't passive?

Ox miraculous protects against magic damage but not physical damage or paralysis. Disorder ignition does both of the latter.

ox miraculous doesn't only protects against magic damage "he is immune to the all other powers" in the scan that means he is immune to the powers of other heros in the world such as majestia, uncanny etc... also we have bee miraculous which paralyze the opponent so its also immune to the paralysis indicument

 

[Arkansalter2]

sorry i'm not familiar with the player you are talking he has all elements now i mean just because he can do it doesn't he would do it in the character he might use timestop or another element instead

He has all elements by default in matches.

i might miss something i will check the scan again but as far as i have seen the ability isn't passive?

It's activated which is why I said he can pre-place it before a fight.

also immune to the paralysis indicument

Fallacious. Not shown on the profile or on hawk moths profile. NLF I say.

Ladybug​

Marinette Dupain-Cheng is one of the two titular main protagonists (alongside Adrien Agreste) of Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir and Miraculous World. She is a former student in Miss Bustier's class at Collège Françoise Dupont in Paris, France, and a budding fashion designer who wants to...

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I see.. However..
That's due to her miraculous potion. Can she take the potion quick enough? Does she even have it by default??

 

[Lort15]

He has all elements by default in matches.

i didn't mean that, im talking about a starter move as him having all elements in character

It's activated which is why I said he can pre-place it before a fight.

okay i suppose?

Fallacious. Not shown on the profile or on hawk moths profile. NLF I say.

literally shown in the profile monarch key has bee miraculous as standart equipment and bee miraculous has paralysis indicument literally ox makes lb invulnurable to this ability

I see.. However..
That's due to her miraculous potion. Can she take the potion quick enough? Does she even have it by default??

she is just taking a macaroon from her yoyo and eats it so yes

 

[Arkansalter2]

i didn't mean that, im talking about a starter move as him having all elements in character

Yes. He can do that.

literally shown in the profile monarch key has bee miraculous as standart equipment and bee miraculous has paralysis indicument literally ox makes lb invulnurable to this ability

So Ox Miraculous is just a crutch. Okay I suppose.

she is just taking a macaroon from her yoyo and eats it so yes

Will she be able to take it fast enough?

 

[Lort15]

Yes. He can do that.

i'm not much familiar with game vs are we taking all abilities that they have as a starter move? because this feels like wrong

So Ox Miraculous is just a crutch. Okay I suppose.

yeah miraculous is a haxy verse ngl

Will she be able to take it fast enough?

yes, why are we discussing about it would be fast enough or not? even if she gets into space she can survive due to having resistance to extereme temps and cosmic radiations

 

[Arkansalter2]

i'm not much familiar with game vs are we taking all abilities that they have as a starter move? because this feels like wrong

They have all elements, all abilites, can use any move at any point in time (save for cooldowns).

yeah miraculous is a haxy verse ngl

Okay I suppose.
Since she's gonna end up immune to spells but not physical damage, Earth should take care of that just fine, especially Meteor Declivity which will literally crush her or Reaper's Rage which slashes her repeatedly.

yes

Okay I suppose.

 

[Lort15]

They have all elements, all abilites, can use any move at any point in time (save for cooldowns).

hmm i see it is accepted in the profile but what his time manip range? if its under universal that would be a problem

Okay I suppose.
Since she's gonna end up immune to spells but not physical damage, Earth should take care of that just fine, especially Meteor Declivity which will literally crush her or Reaper's Rage which slashes her repeatedly.

immune to the spells feels wrong but ok , i could pull up ox is immune to the meteors because goat miraculous was able to create a meteoryou can check it from monarchs profile also she could still dodge it or use elemental intangibility with dragon miraculous to avoid it john literally has no answer to elemental intangibility

Okay I suppose.

mhmm give me your roblox username

 

[Arkansalter2]

hmm i see it is accepted in the profile but what his time manip range? if its under universal that would be a problem

His Chronostasis won't despawn in any way, shape, or form, no matter where he is from where he first casted it... except when 30 seconds pass. But he can freely spawn a new one. Theres no range limit to the Chronostasis however.

use elemental intangibility with dragon miraculous to avoid it john literally has no answer to elemental intangibility

So what I'm seeing is that she can only use one miraculous at a time. Also, a weakness is that John EBG can use stronger elemental attacks according to the Intangibility page. Considering that he has ults for Wind and whatever element she has along with nearly 2x AP gap, John EBG does in fact have an answer to elemental intangibility.

i could pull up ox is immune to the meteors because goat miraculous was able to create a meteor

But not to Reaper's Rage. Got it.

 

[Lort15]

His Chronostasis won't despawn in any way, shape, or form, no matter where he is from where he first casted it... except when 30 seconds pass. But he can freely spawn a new one. Theres no range limit to the Chronostasis however.

So what I'm seeing is that she can only use one miraculous at a time. Also, a weakness is that John EBG can use stronger elemental attacks according to the Intangibility page. Considering that he has ults for Wind and whatever element she has along with nearly 2x AP gap, John EBG does in fact have an answer to elemental intangibility.

But not to Reaper's Rage. Got it.

will reply when i'm avaliable

 

[TheObscureGameGuy]

Never really watched the show but doesn't she just luck hax or is that not how her lucky charm works. Should just create some very useful item that somehow beats EBG dude for some reason.

 

[Lort15]

His Chronostasis won't despawn in any way, shape, or form, no matter where he is from where he first casted it... except when 30 seconds pass. But he can freely spawn a new one. Theres no range limit to the Chronostasis however.

i guess only his ts has a limited range

So what I'm seeing is that she can only use one miraculous at a time. Also, a weakness is that John EBG can use stronger elemental attacks according to the Intangibility page. Considering that he has ults for Wind and whatever element she has along with nearly 2x AP gap, John EBG does in fact have an answer to elemental intangibility.

no she can use more than one as in the scans like Monarch if neccecary, yeah oops true then dragon would be useless in this case we have bee and pig that paralyzes him also supernatural luck boosts her so bad that grants win almost every time i don't see john have it something like layered power null or resistance to it

But not to Reaper's Rage. Got it.

not sure what is Reaper's rage exactly so not going to comment it

 

[Arkansalter2]

almost every time i don't see john have it something like layered power null or resistance to it

So basically this is a stomp because of luck hax. Cmon mane.

not sure what is Reaper's rage exactly so not going to comment it

Reaper's Rage which slashes her repeatedly.

bee and pig that paralyzes him

He's dealt with paralysis spam before. Which is why he can pop Inertia beforehand to make him immune to stun and paralysis.

 

[Lort15]

So basically this is a stomp because of luck hax. Cmon mane.

I mean it's just increasea her luck to win there is still chances of he could win with less chance it's not %100

He's dealt with paralysis spam before. Which is why he can pop Inertia beforehand to make him immune to stun and paralysis.

I mean pig miraculous is based on emphatic manipulation it shows the opponents greatest desires so they gets manipulated by it (might also include mind manip but that's another day's crt)

 

[Arkansalter2]

I mean it's just increasea her luck to win there is still chances of he could win with less chance it's not %100

Okay I guess.

I mean pig miraculous is based on emphatic manipulation it shows the opponents greatest desires so they gets manipulated by it (might also include mind manip but that's another day's crt)

He won't fall for whatever that pig miraculous does that easily. The player doesn't really have any "desires" besides killing people so yeah.

 

[Lort15]

Okay I guess.

He won't fall for whatever that pig miraculous does that easily. The player doesn't really have any "desires" besides killing people so yeah.

So it's a desire pig can show him to be best player in the world or some shit like that Ladybug can hold him for 24-48 hours with that

 

[Arkansalter2]

So it's a desire pig can show him to be best player in the world or some shit like that Ladybug can hold him for 24-48 hours with that

How on earth would that even work?
What type of shit?

 

[Lort15]

How on earth would that even work?
What type of shit?

Be ready for the cringest power you can ever see 3:49
so John dies from cringe/j

 

[Lort15]

He after took her earrings while she was in under gift's affect but they cut that scene jn this video she didn't even give a reaction to it she was like hypnotized by emphatic manip

 

[Arkansalter2]

He after took her earrings while she was in under gift's affect but they cut that scene jn this video she didn't even give a reaction to it she was like hypnotized by emphatic manip

It looks like a projectile. Easily dodgable.

 

[Lort15]

It looks like a projectile. Easily dodgable.

yes but she can do that in close range too with supernatural luck it would also increase the luck of her hitting capabilities