Dante vs Rei-O

[Dust_Collector]

Amount of souls =/= Soul manip potency

But the site currently treats amount of souls as = soul manip potency in the same way we treat amount of minds = mind manip potency.

 

[Schnee_One]

Amount of souls =/= Soul manip potency

That is how it's judged on this site

 

[GrathOfLux]

I see. My bad then. I remember there being a discussion once about "potency doesn't equate with amount" or something like that, and I thought I remembered it being about Soul manip, but I must've been mistaken. My bad dudes, time to cry in a wendy's parking lot at 3am over my mistake .

 

[Schnee_One]

We do the same for mindhax as well

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

@Knight but I should probably tell you in this verse even elements like nitrogen has a soul lol.

This got accepted? If it did then how much equals to one human soul?

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

How did this get accepted?

 

[AstralKing7]

Really confused why the infinite souls is being argued when you can just go with the trillions argument. Yama has killed a trillion people with Ryujin Jakka/Zanka no Tachi's flames alone and we know for a fact he only uses that when bullying them physically doesn't work. PSK would scale above this number.

You tell us why Bleach supporters are using infinite in the first place then

 

[Rocker1189]

This got accepted? If it did then how much equals to one human soul?

It did not get accepted in any oficial capacity last I checked, it was just a radom discussion.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Hmmmm

 

[GrathOfLux]

So... wait.

You're saying that they get infinite potency soul hax... based on something that was never even properly evaluated and accepted?

 

[Davidsteel1]

This is y using numbers as the basis of determining the potency of soul hax (or any hax in general) is hilariously flawed

 

[InfiniteSped]

First it was billions because of a huge multiplier chain.

Then it was sextillions for soulhaxing atoms.

Now it's freaking infinite.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

So... wait.

You're saying that they get infinite potency soul hax... based on something that was never even properly evaluated and accepted?

Literally this

 

[Rocker1189]

So... wait.
You're saying that they get infinite potency soul hax... based on something that was never even properly evaluated and accepted?

well yes lol.

 

[AstralKing7]

This is y using numbers as the basis of determining the potency of soul hax (or any hax in general) is hilariously flawed

It's not even that tbh. It's jsut this one case. Besides the fact that it jsut can't be infinite, it's not even linked with a CRT like other things

 

[GrathOfLux]

well yes lol.

...Yeah, no. That's not how it works. Get it accepted before bringing it up in debates.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

I'm not even sure why the **** a CRT would need to be created in the first place, I see verses pull this type of shit all the time. It's the ******* cano lore of the verse, so quite frankly i don't really care what people think regarding the issue. It's stated multiple time that there are infinite amounts of souls, a statement that's made repeatedly. Literally if this was a novel verse or some shit like Fate nobody would blink an eye, but you try to scale one character to the feat that he did and not to mention that there are indeed infinite souls in Bleach but people seem to think this applies to every realm in Bleach. No, there are infinite souls in the separated dimensions such as The Valley of Screams.


Also some of the arguments here are downright laughable and pathetic. Rei-O created souls and manipulates them on a regular basis, someone genuinely compared this to "Can your parent's kill you effortlessly because they made you?" as if this isn't the biggest Golden Mean Fallacy I've seen on the sight. Rei-O is in complete and total charge of the very existence of souls, my parents aren't in complete and total charge of my very being. I'm sorry but if you wanna try to detest this don't use a dumbass argument like this, it makes you seem desperate and makes it sound like you know nothing about Bleach, which i can guarantee you half the people here commenting don't.

 

[Davidsteel1]

Are any of the realms in Bleach infinite in size? Last I was told they're all planet sized

 

[Rocker1189]

I'm not even sure why the **** a CRT would need to be created in the first place, I see verses pull this type of shit all the time. It's the ******* cano lore of the verse, so quite frankly i don't really care what people think regarding the issue. It's stated multiple time that there are infinite amounts of souls, a statement that's made repeatedly. Literally if this was a novel verse or some shit like Fate nobody would blink an eye, but you try to scale one character to the feat that he did and not to mention that there are indeed infinite souls in Bleach but people seem to think this applies to every realm in Bleach. No, there are infinite souls in the separated dimensions such as The Valley of Screams.

If anyone is pulling this they are wrong to do so since as far as I know things on this level have to be accepted or agreed upon in a thread of a sort. You can say all you want here but without a thread sorry but no one is going to accept it.

As for the rest I dont see where it is said that he is in control of every single soul in the verse, last I checked he was in control of the ones in the cycle of souls which the blanks are not part of sbecause they do not go from the living world to SS which is what the cycle is. The blank are outside of the cycle and end up fusing to create dimensions. And as for blanks being infinite in the first place sorry but that 1 infinite statement simply is not enough imo. There was no way they would have run out of blanks even if they had billions of them considering in the movie the most used was like a few million.

 

[AstralKing7]

Last time I checked this is not CV.