Deku (MHA) vs Raiden (Metal Gear)

[Robo432343]

45% Deku
Raiden is in Ripper mode
SBA
Speed Equal

Izuku Midoriya (Deku) (Final Act)

Izuku Midoriya (緑谷出久 Midoriya Izuku), also known as the One For All Hero: Deku (ワン・フォー・オール ヒーロー デク Wan Fō Ōru Hīrō: Deku), is one of the 20% of people on Earth who were born without a Quirk, a natural superpower that is a basic biological function in modern society, causing him endless torment...

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Raiden (Metal Gear)

As a young boy, Jack lived in the turbulence and violence of the Liberian Civil War and was orphaned at a young age by Solidus Snake, who raised him as his own and groomed him to become a killing machine of a child soldier who gained the title of Jack the Ripper, the White Devil, making quite...

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[TheRadiantSoul]

What is Deku going to do once Raiden pulls out Blade Mode?

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

deku has danger sense and can restrain raiden

Raiden Is going to quickly cut those Tendrils.

Engaging In CQC Is also a bad idea since he is likely to get his arm chopped off.

 

[Huesito88]

either Raiden uses AOE or Raiden chops him up
its 50/50

Common Robo L

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

What is the starting distance for SBA?

 

[TheRustyOne]

deku has danger sense and can restrain raiden

Danger Sense doesn't amp Izuku's speed or anything.

When Raiden uses Blade Mode, Izuku will be moving 10x slower in Raiden's perspective. Watch a video and make it 10x slower, that's how Izuku is going to be moving. The time it takes him to move 1 meter, Raiden will have moved 10 meters. Izuku cannot do anything against that level of speed.

Raiden will never be touched by Blackwhip, he'll either dodge or slash it to pieces.

Starting distance would be hundreds of meters considering what you said above me, as Raiden has the lowest range. Izuku's only chance would be to keep his distance, fly up out of Raiden's range and snipe him with ranged attacks. Considering they're High 6-C, he'll one shot Raiden if they hit.

Blade Mode cannot be used as travel speed, so at 100 meters away it's not usable. Raiden would need to get close to use it.

Considering Raiden is in Ripper Mode, Izuku will sense all of his hostile/murderous intentions, along with the fact he can easily slice through Blackwhip. I don't think it'll take a genius to know he can't let Raiden get close to him. So he'll most likely keep his distance, Izuku can even fly up beyond Raiden's range as well.

I don't think this fight is fair. Either Izuku ends up flying high up and attacks Raiden outside of his range, assuming they start far apart.

Or Raiden blitzes with Blade Mode, assuming they start next to each other.

 

[Catbowtie]

I've played Revengeance. Raiden doesn't kill kids, or is very inclined to immediately dice them apart.

 

[TheRustyOne]

I've played Revengeance. Raiden doesn't kill kids, or is very inclined to immediately dice them apart.

SBA: "Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences. The characters will assume their opponents have not been forced into battle. They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances. Furthermore, the situation is assumed one where the opponents are not protected by social norms or consequences, such as being a civilian protected by law."

Considering Raiden is staying in Ripper Mode, believes losing to Izuku will have dire consequences, believes he's not being forced into fighting him, and he isn't excused by a just caused. I don't think Raiden will be inclined to hold back in this case, though Raiden's only method of hurting Izuku is his HF Blade.

IDK Raiden as well as Izuku, so is it possible he'll still hold back in this case?

If it does, that's still doesn't make the fight fair in the slightest.

 

[Catbowtie]

Never mind, I was onto nothing. I just said that because through-out Revengeance, kids are pretty much Raiden's soft spot. I just think it would be out of character for him to dice Izuku into a million pieces, then rip his heart out and crush it. If Izuku was like an adult, then Raiden wouldn't care because, well, Izuku is an adult, and he's killed adults that pretty much were under duress anyways.

 

[Chariot190]

Izuku's only chance would be to keep his distance, fly up out of Raiden's range and snipe him with ranged attacks.

Bro can like, jump tho. He's cleared like hundreds of meters in a jump before.

Now, Deku CAN do that, Raiden might have big jumps, but he doesn't have any feats of jumping km into the sky and what not he should be capable but ya know, media be like that so I wouldnt just assume he can even if he should he can definitely do like 100m and more casually tho, which might not seem like much, but hypothetically, Raiden and Deku start 100m apart, in the time Deku goes up 10m, Raiden would already have covered that distance and have his sword up his ass, might even be less given Dystopia has much larger range and also has the funny HF hax.

Blade Mode cannot be used as travel speed, so at 100 meters away it's not usable. Raiden would need to get close to use it.

It can tho, he uses it to do acrobatics, leaps and more in QTEs.
Him not moving with it active is just a gameplay thing that's immediately discredited by the billion cinematics showing him do stuff with it beyond stand still and slash.
The fact Sam can quickdraw in blade mode is also telling (his big burst distance move) or the fact you also can't jump while in Blade Mode in gameplay, yet he straight up jumps in literally about 50 different QTEs while in Blade Mode. It's just a balancing thing, as long as he's "focused" he enter that mode as per the lore.

Even if you want to say he can't run with it up, he can jump, and if he can jump in Blade Mode, he can still cover that distance just as fast as if he was dashing.

Considering Raiden is in Ripper Mode, Izuku will sense all of his hostile/murderous intentions, along with the fact he can easily slice through Blackwhip.

Raiden can clear his mind and fight without any thought if need be. I mean, I don't think he'd do it off the bat so Danger would work at the start, but if he picks up on it, which he will given he has experience with dudes that can do that, he'll just go ultra instinct.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Snip

Do you think this fight is unfair or not?

I believe it's a stomp.

 

[Chariot190]

Maybe if Deku was like, 1-2km away. Thatd give him time to just flick in Raiden's direction before he gets bisected even with Blade Mode amping his speed.

But then it just becomes a stomp for him.

Which is to say, classic Robo mismatch...

 

[Robo432343]

Do you think this fight is unfair or not?

I believe it's a stomp.

but last time you voted for Deku
just barely

 

[TheRustyOne]

but last time you voted for Deku
just barely

What happens in the past doesn't matter right now. I don't remember it, so all I'll say was that I was wrong/stupid and move on.

Either they start far enough away that Izuku stomps or Raiden speed blitz with Blade Mode. I don't see any in between that'd makes this fair.

 

[Chariot190]

but last time you voted for Deku
just barely

Probably was at 4km. At that range Raiden's big ass hulk leaps even while statuing wont be quick enough to get up there before bro flexes.
Something like a few hundred meters he can cover in one or two jumps based off his feats so...

No inbetween both just one shot, who does depends on distance. No fight to be had.

 

[Stillwinston]

Deku gets made into sashimi here yeetus deletus this

 

[TheRustyOne]

nah the distance was 10m

Damn, I must've been really off that day or got hit in the head real hard. Maybe not enough sleep?

 

[Chariot190]

nah the distance was 10m

but wtv
another bad match by me

Then idk why, Dystopia alone has bigger range than that.

Raiden sucks for matches, he usually just blitzes and quantum dura neg. Youd need to swap his sword out if you want a fight, but his other blades still got some shit like 2m volt stun which is kind of a big hurdle. He has the wooden sword but that one literally cant kill.