Digimon's Conceptual Erasure

[The_real_cal_howard]

I...honestly forgot where that came from. I know it was that destroy non existence thread, but where did we get that bit from?

Furthermore, why was the same thread applied to Belphamon and Leviamon again in the first place? It wasn't them who the prophecy was applied to and just because the RK's fought them for a long time doesn't mean that they would have literally everything said in the prophecy. They fit a category or two and the RKs made an assumption.

 

[Sera_EX]

I honestly don't remember.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Given how long the Royal Knights have fought the Seven Great Demon Lords, why would they not believe them capable of the things the prophecy says?

Specially when they otherwise don't fill the base requirement (Being a red and black dragon).

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

As it would still be speculation. They could have one or two of the things. Ogudomon has two mouths. Leviamon is reptilian.

This would probably be a bad example, but DBZA!Goku believed Tao Pai Pai could destroy the South Galaxy lol. Of course, the RKs are faaaar smarter than he is, but the point still somewhat stands.

 

[The_Everlasting]

"This would probably be a bad example, but DBZA!Goku believed Tao Pai Pai could destroy the South Galaxy lol."

...?

What even is this example?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Basically, it's not a matter of the truth. It's a matter of what you can prove in court.


...I'm currently watching Law Abiding Citize

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

"This would probably be a bad example, but DBZA!Goku believed Tao Pai Pai could destroy the South Galaxy lol."

...?

What even is this example?

It's me making a joke...

 

[The_Everlasting]

Your example seems like you're taking something from an intentional parody and the word of someone who's proven to be a complete idiot.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I must've ninja'd you ovo.

But seriously. Bad example, but the point's kinda still there. It's basically the classic case of the police believe it to be one guy due to some thing, but it's actually another. That's a better example.

 

[The_Everlasting]

To believe something means you need to have reason to believe something.

 

[Executor_N0]

Assumptions are only made in case of analysis if there is a possibility, if someone is accused of killing another person then he should fit into the possibility (Have a gun is an example) even if it was not him.

It makes no sense to make an assumption of being that will destroy the whole creation and go look for suspects who do not have the ability to commit the offense in question.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ogudomon has two mouths. Leviamon is draconic. The RKs could just be assuming they had a secret ability in there.

And again, it's about what you can prove. If they have it or not isn't the point. It's if you can prove it or not, and we can't prove that they have it, as people just think they have it.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Ex. It's more like the suspect looks has qualities of the perp and has the motive, but we can't find the weapon.

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Cal

Having two heads is a bit different from having two mouths.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm thinking of Ogudomon anyway lol.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Why didn't you just ask this on our walls...?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Lets be honest.

Ever and N0 would've responded if I went on your wall anyway ovo

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And it would've saved a ton of effort since this is something that can be easily resolved...I mean you've asked me on my wall about other things...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also did you read the thread? You were present there and you agreed to it.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

To be fair, I couldn't find it (easily and on my phone) before posting this, and tbh, I go along with this stuff as I'd wind up losing anyway if I didn't. Can't beat 'em, join 'em

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And what changed from then to now?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I thought about it for more than 5 minutes (not saying you guys didn't (obviously), I'm just saying that when I responded "looks good" I did it on a whim). Also, I more skimmed and trusted the experts.

 

[Executor_N0]

As it would still be speculation. They could have one or two of the things. Ogudomon has two mouths. Leviamon is reptilian.

One question, what does Ogudomon have to do with it? He never appeared at any point in history that was not in the Battle Terminal ("Arcade Game" as well as DBH, but as Digimon does not have as much success as DB we ended up getting pretty much 0 history information in gameplay e.e) and Digimon Collectors (Mobile game that did not have the event translated officially and if not Were Chinese sites we would end up without knowing this :v) (It is difficult to search for information in Digimon ;-.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And you couldn't ask on our walls? You couldn't find said thread and read it? Great, so much for this crap being problem free....That thread literally made things so hectic...

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Also Ogudomon has nothing to do with this...

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I made a mistake with Ogudomon. I already admitted that. I'm not even making this a problem. I'm trying to be as light as possible.

Also, even reading that thread after, I still stand by what I say now. If I'm right, just messaging it on your wall won't change a thing.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

We've gone over this post that thread. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/759895

This is going to turn ugly as it always do. I kinda wish I never made that thread as this is getting annoying....

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Dude, noone's gonna make this ugly unless you do, and I know you well enough that I know that's not gonna happen. If so, this can be handled very civilly if I don't flare up for some reason, which I don't plan to. Also, how is this getting annoying? Only like, two threads including this one was made about this subject in a negative aspect.

Also, I didn't see that scan. He does have a point.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Ever has already summed it up. It is quite obvious that the Dragon was going to destroy, Heaven, Hell, Life, Death, Existence and Nothingness(Non-Existence) due to Zeed's nature as a Destroyer. We've all made points against all that. What exactly is your argument for we can get this over with. Sorry, I really want this to be an open and shut case.

Also you indeed saw that scan. Matter of fact you commented it as flowery in which we argued off. The scan was literally in your face. You should not have agreed with it if you didn't trust it. You should've said this stuff there that way we wouldn't be doing this now. That way we wouldn't run a risk of turning this into another mess like this.

^This is the last thing I need to happen again as it left a huge bad taste in my mouth and still does.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Either way, I'll let Ever and Executor handle this. I'm not good with this stuff.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

The Royal Knights are, for the most part, extremely intelligent and logical characters (sans the more primal or hotheaded members, such as Examon and Gankoomon, neither of whom were involved with the prophecy). If they believe the non-existence erasure was a possible ability that Leviamon and Belphemon could perform, I'd take their word for it.

And Tao Pai Pai is a casual galaxy buster and you know it, filthy downplayer.

 

[Reppuzan]

Darkanine basically summed up everything. Having kept them at bay for as long as they have, the RKs should have a pretty good idea of what the SGDLs are capable of. Given that the people involved in telling the prophecy include Leopardmon/Duftmon, one of the greatest tacticians in the Digital World, and Homeostasis, who literally has infinite knowledge, it's probably best to take their word at face value.