Dipper Pines decides to beat up a dead guy. (Dipper Pines vs Sans)

[Salt-on-pizza]

Dipper gets his equipment, both are in character and start 5 metres away, speed equalised

Dipper hasn't been through the Sans test like every other generally wall to building level character I don't think, so yeah.


(Dipper) "You're the worst.": @Salt-on-pizza

(Sans) "Well, maybe it's the way you're dressed.": @TheOrangeGuy09 @ShionAH

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Sans dura negs and basically no diffs
Poor Dipper

 

[ShionAH]

Tf Dipper supposed to do, though I doubt Sans will kill an innocent kid so its entirely possible he uses SI to be friends with Dipper and win that way

So good ending!

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

Tf Dipper supposed to do, though I doubt Sans will kill an innocent kid so its entirely possible he uses SI to be friends with Dipper and win that way

So good ending!

Nah, personally I think Dipper wins. He can use his mind erasing gun or size changing flashlight, which he would do under a threat. He is also faster, stronger, but I guess Karma and time stop is a problem, although dipper could use his weaponry to whittle him down or outright just kill him.

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

Sans dura negs and basically no diffs
Poor Dipper

Nah, read the response I gave the other user. But I do still feel Karma and time stop is Sans's only chance

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Nah, personally I think Dipper wins. He can use his mind erasing gun or size changing flashlight, which he would do under a threat. He is also faster, stronger, but I guess Karma and time stop is a problem, although dipper could use his weaponry to whittle him down or outright just kill him.

The difference here is that Sans uses danmaku to attack, meanwhile Dipper’s hax is a singular projectile, which will be dodged with no problem.
Also for “faster”: why did you use some discord calculation when it is not accepted on the wiki? Use only what is on the profile. Also without speed equalization it is even more of a stomp: Sans speed blitzes.

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

The difference here is that Sans uses danmaku to attack, meanwhile Dipper’s hax is a singular projectile, which will be dodged with no problem.
Also for “faster”: why did you use some discord calculation when it is not accepted on the wiki? Use only what is on the profile. Also without speed equalization it is even more of a stomp: Sans speed blitzes.

Alright speed's equalised. Also I get the Danmaku thing, but I still think he can avoid them, and the master blasters have a bit of startup lag too

 

[ShionAH]

Dipper has no skill, he gets stomped and fcking dies

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Alright speed's equalised. Also I get the Danmaku thing, but I still think he can avoid them, and the master blasters have a bit of startup lag too

Dipper has never gone through anything like Sans’ danmaku, telekinesis and teleportation, meanwhile Sans will dodge Dipper’s attacks even if he decides to take a nap (literally).
This is just a stomp. Poor Dipper.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Sans takes this.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

(Sans) "Well, maybe it's the way you're dressed.": @TheOrangeGuy09 @ShionAH

I was not voting for Sans, I was saying it was a stomp and should be closed (I don’t see any scenario where Dipper wins even if you make him Bloodlusted)
Pretty sure @ShionAH did the same

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

I was not voting for Sans, I was saying it was a stomp and should be closed (I don’t see any scenario where Dipper wins even if you make him Bloodlusted)
Pretty sure @ShionAH did the same

Not true, he can incap with the memory gun

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

Not true, he can incap with the memory gun

Especially considering the fact Sans can be worn down, and Dipper could definitely dodge them, with the amount of smart patterns he can do himself

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Not true, he can incap with the memory gun

And Sans is gonna stand there and take it?

Especially considering the fact Sans can be worn down, and Dipper could definitely dodge them, with the amount of smart patterns he can do himself

As I said, Dipper has never fought against anything like Sans’ danmaku and etc.

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

And Sans is gonna stand there and take it?

As I said, Dipper has never fought against anything like Sans’ danmaku and etc.

No, but since it's a light beam, I don't think Sans could dodge. Also danmaku doesn't mean that he would immediately keel over and die after one attack. Dipper is still very fast and could dodge it, and he has experience with complicated patterns. (As seen in time traveller's pig)

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

He is also faster

If the calculation ins´t accepted here it can´t be used

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

No, but since it's a light beam, I don't think Sans could dodge.

Sans killing Dipper before he even uses that:

Also danmaku doesn't mean that he would immediately keel over and die after one attack.

Sans’ soul hax ignores durability.

Dipper is still very fast and could dodge it, and he has experience with complicated patterns. (As seen in time traveller's pig)

Complicated patterns, but not to that point when many bones and Gaster Blasters are shooting at you, and when the guy uses goddamn telekinesis he never dealt with in his life.

Dipper has never been into ANYTHING like Sans fight.

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

He can also use his size changing flashlight to change the size of the bones

Sans killing Dipper before he even uses that:

Sans’ soul hax ignores durability.

Complicated patterns, but not to that point when many bones and Gaster Blasters are shooting at you, and when the guy uses goddamn telekinesis he never dealt with in his life.

Dipper has never been into ANYTHING like Sans fight.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

He can also use his size changing flashlight to change the size of the bones

Will not help much against Danmaku since it requires a decent amount of time and works on a singular object.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

sans FRA but good ending, since sans will likely befriend dipper and not kill him

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

sans FRA but good ending, since sans will likely befriend dipper and not kill him

I feel his Size flashlight Should make the bones smaller as they come. IK about his dura negation but because of Dipper's Stamina and intelligence, I still think he can evade Sans long enough to OHKO him, especially considering Speed's equalised

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

The difference here is that Sans uses danmaku to attack, meanwhile Dipper’s hax is a singular projectile, which will be dodged with no problem.
Also for “faster”: why did you use some discord calculation when it is not accepted on the wiki? Use only what is on the profile. Also without speed equalization it is even more of a stomp: Sans speed blitzes.

Speed Upgrade has been accepted and I have found 3 town level feats (that I'm compiling into a CRT). The funny skeleton man's days are numbered. With how his profile is now though is there any change on the winner?

 

[Catbowtie]

My brother in Christ, Sans will SI Dipper and there is nothing that Dipper can do about it. Even if we all accepted that wouldn't be the case, Dipper is getting slammed down by TK then dura neg before he can fathom what has happened.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Speed Upgrade has been accepted and I have found 3 town level feats (that I'm compiling into a CRT). The funny skeleton man's days are numbered. With how his profile is now though is there any change on the winner?

Relativistic vs. Hypersonic+ is a stomp, so speed must be equalized. In this case, Sans either uses his SI or Soul Manipulation. Even if you get Dipper to freaking 1-B, it will still be the case lmao.

 

[ShionAH]

Relativistic vs. Hypersonic+ is a stomp

Nah because its only for Reactions so Sans can just SI

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Nah because its only for Reactions

No, it says just Relativistic on the profile, meaning it is Combat speed too

 

[ShionAH]

No, it says just Relativistic on the profile, meaning it is Combat speed too

Thats wrong then

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Thats wrong then

Genuinely why? They also can keep up with each other, so it should be both Combat and Reactions

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

Thats wrong then

He's able to move at that speed, and carry objects too seen when he redirected a beam of light... so I don't think it's wrong

 

[Salt-on-pizza]

My brother in Christ, Sans will SI Dipper and there is nothing that Dipper can do about it. Even if we all accepted that wouldn't be the case, Dipper is getting slammed down by TK then dura neg before he can fathom what has happened.

He has Soul Manipulation. But Dipper is Faster, stronger and more durable. Sans's Abilities would keep him in the game for a bit and Soul Manipulation would definitely help, but the fact that Dipper not only kill him with one hit, but he's faster is, yeah. He even has laser weapons like the Memory Gun or Size Changing Flashlight.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

He has Soul Manipulation. But Dipper is Faster, stronger and more durable. Sans's Abilities would keep him in the game for a bit and Soul Manipulation would definitely help, but the fact that Dipper not only kill him with one hit, but he's faster is, yeah. He even has laser weapons like the Memory Gun or Size Changing Flashlight.

Speed must be equalized otherwise it is a stomp. Dipper has nothing against Danmaku. More durable doesn’t matter because Soul Manipulation is Durability Negation for damn reason. And you still didn’t answer how Dipper counters SI, all you say “well this will help Sans but Dipper still wins”. From what I see you just want Dipper to win despite it clearly not being the case.

 

[Catbowtie]

But Dipper is Faster, stronger and more durable.

Sans has Dura Negation. Durability doesn't matter. Speed doesn't matter because it's equalized. Being Stronger doesn't matter because Sans dodges all of Dipper's attacks with IA Teleportation. In order for someone to hit Sans, they need to either have an AOE attack bigger than his Hundreds of Meters of range with Sans' teleportation, or blitz Sans so hard that he couldn't comprehend the speed difference. Dipper has neither.

but the fact that Dipper not only kill him with one hit

Sans dodges.

but he's faster is

Fast enough to perception blitz him? No? Sans dodges.

He even has laser weapons like the Memory Gun or Size Changing Flashlight.

Does Memory Gun and Size Changing Flashlight require Dipper to point at Sans with? If yes, Sans just dodges it.


Let me ask you this: Is Dipper more skilled than Chara? Can Dipper predict Sans' Danmaku? Can Dipper fathom any of the abilities that Sans will come running out with? Look at it from Diperr's POV: You see a 2d Skeleton slap his arm down and then suddenly, you are slammed against the ground, dirt going in your face and hair. Right after, an exclamation mark pops up briefly, disappears, then intangible bones spring up from under you and pierce your body, destroying your soul in like 5 seconds. This is Normal Dipper, correct? I've seen Gravity Falls myself. The monsters in Dipper's book require him to actually know of it. Sans is a completely new monster to Dipper and the abilities Sans has would absolutely flabbergast Dipper.


Of course, Sans isn't an evil guy and doesn't go around throwing out his Strongest Attack at everyone. He'd just use SI on Dipper. I'm not sure whether this makes it a Stomp or not, but if it doesn't, voting Sans for SI'ing Dipper.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

How Salt-on-Pizza sees this fight vs. how everybody else sees this fight.