Dragon Duel

[Soupywolf5]

"With the arrival of a storm at sea, this Pokémon will show itself on the surface. When a Kingdra and a Dragonite meet, a fierce battle ensues."
-Kingdra's Pokémon Sword Pokédex entry

Welp, you know what that means

Dragonite vs Kingdra

Speed unequal as there is no need, the battle takes place on a large island surrounded by ocean (Blanketed by a heavy rainstorm)

Gen 1's Only (Fully evolved) Dragon Type:

Gen 2's Only Dragon Type: 1 (Daddybrawl)

Inconclusive:

 

[Lou_change]

Kingdra has less choices but a critical hit ice Beam should one shot- wait the weakness isn't a multiplier so it's not going to one shot even then multiscale, roost spam only lasts if there's land so more reliable recovery, a ocean to hide in and smokescreen. Dragonite has more options but they aren't as great but that doesn't it's super outclassed.

Inco

 

[Soupywolf5]

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[Soupywolf5]

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[Soupywolf5]

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[FluffyCreatureZ]

dragonite is large mountain+ so he stomps.

 

[Soupywolf5]

dragonite is large mountain+ so he stomps.

That’s just because Kingdra’s profile hasn’t been updated yet, they’re both scale to the same AP

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

dragonite is large mountain+ so he stomps.

No. Kingdra should be too. It's just that no one updated the page

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

That’s just because Kingdra’s profile hasn’t been updated yet, they’re both scale to the same AP

Well now I did updated it

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Dragonite blitzes.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Dragonite blitzes.

They also scale to the same speed

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

bruh momentum

 

[Soupywolf5]

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[JustANormalLemon]

Why kingdra don't have Swift Swim on it's profile?

 

[Soupywolf5]

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[JustANormalLemon]

Why kingdra don't have Swift Swim on it's profile?

So...

 

[Soupywolf5]

So...

I'm honestly not sure why, I think it's just because nobody bothered adding it when they made the profile

 

[Daddybrawl]

Should be as simple as a CRT.

Anyways, I think the result’s this: Kingdra has better ranged moves as well as superior Mobility in the water, which is going to be important as Dragonite’s non-dragon super-effective moves are all close-ranged, as well as the fact that Kingdra’s probably not going to leave the water. In fact, a lot of Dragonite’s attacks are ranged lol.

Kingdra has an ability, Sniper, that goes well with Focus Energy. Dragonite has better stat-up moves (aka Dragon Dance), as well as Thunder Wave to paralyze Kingdra, and Safeguard to prevent being Yawned on, but Kingdra has better stat-down moves (leer), better Super Effective moves. Even if Weaknesses aren’t a multiplier, Dragonite’s incredibly weak to Ice- it may as well be a one shot, if it isn’t.

For that, I am voting Kingdra for superior mobility, ranged attacks, and the seemingly superior ability.

(note: this is all from looking at the Profiles- I have not checked the entire Bulbapedia List, cause that’d take a while)
(Note 2: This argument did not account for Dragon Moves, as they both have them and are both weak to them. At that point, it’s a battle of mobility, combat prowess, and accuracy.)

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Dragonite have multiscale though, which means that as long as Kingdra never hit it before, super effective moves will only do normal damage, and it can heal itself with Roost to re-activate its ability after being damaged

Besides, Kingdra's best option will be Dragon Pulse, which Dragonite can dodge as it's from a range, especially after boosting its speed with dragon dance, and Draco Meteor, which does massive damage, but also reduces Kingdra's power by a lot

Thunder Wave would be really bad for Kingdra as well, since paralysis would halve its speed and make it occasionally be unable to attack

 

[Daddybrawl]

Dragonite have multiscale though, which means that as long as Kingdra never hit it before, super effective moves will only do normal damage, and it can heal itself with Roost to re-activate its ability after being damaged

Roost requires a moment of rest for Dragonite, which won‘t be easy to have as long as Kingdra’s applying pressure. It also requires to land, but his opponent’s in the water. Multiscale also only applies to the first move- I know I’m voting for Kingdra, but this isn’t a Stomp. It’s still going to take multiple attacks, just Kingdra’s better.

Besides, Kingdra's best option will be Dragon Pulse, which Dragonite can dodge as it's from a range, especially after boosting its speed with dragon dance, and Draco Meteor, which does massive damage, but also reduces Kingdra's power by a lot

His best option is actually Ice Beam, which can also Freeze, and Dragonite has a double weakness to it. And if Dragonite can dodge dragon pulse, so can Kingdra- I was referring to how useful the attacks were, not necessarily the chance of them landing.

Thunder Wave would be really bad for Kingdra as well, since paralysis would halve its speed and make it occasionally be unable to attack

Sleep would be really bad for Dragonite, as would freezing, as they would leave him completely vulnerable to attack. While Dragonite has Safeguard to prevent both, they’re still viable options once Safeguard runs out and before Safeguard is applied.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Should be as simple as a CRT.

One day I Will stop and look for problems in the profiles of pokémons