Dragonball cosmology revision: Part 2

[omegabronic]

What...? It says there are 4 galaxies that make up the living world, and the story literally never shows this

4 galaxies was never accepted as there is clearly far more than just 4 galaxies in the universe

It doesn't show the living universe, but the entire universe, and it doesn't show the entire cosmological model.

in the context of the scenes talked about, it was only the living universe

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

What...? It says there are 4 galaxies that make up the living world, and the story literally never shows this


It doesn't show the living universe, but the entire universe, and it doesn't show the entire cosmological model.

It’s 4 cardinal areas or sections of the universe NSEW not actual galaxies galaxy referring to an area is just a denomination used by the gods for the area they govern

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

For those who don't know or have never met DB, talking about darkness is referring to the space that is outside the Universes and not inside, how can you see well here, we can assume that the Universes are inside a kind of void, and every time the Universes are shown it shows the black space that is space

 

[omegabronic]

For those who don't know or have never met DB, talking about darkness is referring to the space that is outside the Universes and not inside, How can you see well here

no, the said darkness is said to be part of the universe, that is the whole point of it being argued for the universe to be infinite, also we see stars and light outside of the universe, not darkness

 

[Vietthai96]

For those who don't know or have never met DB, talking about darkness is referring to the space that is outside the Universes and not inside, how can you see well here, we can assume that the Universes are inside a kind of void, and every time the Universes are shown it shows the black space that is space

No it isn't, the darkness statement is about the darkness inside the Living Universe

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

No it isn't, the darkness statement is about the darkness inside the Living Universe

But there is something outside the 12 Universes, like another black space ;-;

 

[omegabronic]

But there is something outside the 12 Universes, like another black space ;-;

so?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

No it isn't, the darkness statement is about the darkness inside the Living Universe

Since you're here bro, could you find the translation of episode 31 in Japanese, where Jaco mentions that there are countless galaxies / infinite galaxies

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'll ask for closure since we have a new thread now!

 

[omegabronic]

I'll ask for closure since we have a new thread now!

no we don't? which thread are you talking about?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

-snip-

In order...

Japanese	English
無限に広がる宇宙を、それぞれの界王達が管理をしている。おもに方角によって決められ、界王が管理している場所は大界王が統括して監督し、さらに東西南北の界王神が宇宙を管理。最終的に大界王神が全世界を監督していることになっている。	The infinitely expansive universe is managed by each of the Kais. The direction of the universe is mainly determined by the direction of the Kais, and the four Kais oversees and supervises the places they manage. The Supreme Kai ultimately oversees the entire world.
無限に広がる闇と 銀河のイルミネーション ア何万光年･･･何億光年･･･ 光さえもたどりつけぬ 星々の彼方には未知の異星人想像を絶するモンスターが 無数に息づいている	Infinitely expansive darkness Galactic illumination Tens of thousands of light years... Billions of light years... Not even light can reach them. Beyond the stars, unknown aliens, unimaginable monsters Unimaginable monsters breathe in myriads
末知なるものが息づく光と闇の無限空間	An infinite space of light and darkness where ultimate knowledge lives.
N/A	Far above the heavens and unknown to humans, exists this extra-dimensional world of divinity, from which gods look down on the whole of the mortal realm.

As present in "infinitely expansive", the particle "に" is used to describe a destination. When placed in front of an adjective, this indicates that the destination has already been reached, meaning that "無限に広がる" is not "infinitely expanding" but "infinitely expansive".

could you find the translation of episode 31 in Japanese, where Jaco mentions that there are countless galaxies / infinite galaxies

銀河だけでもバカ広いのにそんな銀河がとんでもない数あるくらい宇宙は広いのだぞ！ → "The galaxy alone is ridiculously wide, but the universe is so vast that there are an unbelievable number of such galaxies!"

"とんでもない" is used to describe the number of galaxies, which translates into "unthinkable; unexpected; outrageous; offensive".

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

In order...

Japanese	English
無限に広がる宇宙を、それぞれの界王達が管理をしている。おもに方角によって決められ、界王が管理している場所は大界王が統括して監督し、さらに東西南北の界王神が宇宙を管理。最終的に大界王神が全世界を監督していることになっている。	The infinitely expansive universe is managed by each of the Kais. The direction of the universe is mainly determined by the direction of the Kais, and the four Kais oversees and supervises the places they manage. The Supreme Kai ultimately oversees the entire world.
無限に広がる闇と 銀河のイルミネーション ア何万光年･･･何億光年･･･ 光さえもたどりつけぬ 星々の彼方には未知の異星人想像を絶するモンスターが 無数に息づいている	Infinitely expansive darkness Galactic illumination Tens of thousands of light years... Billions of light years... Not even light can reach them. Beyond the stars, unknown aliens, unimaginable monsters Unimaginable monsters breathe in myriads
末知なるものが息づく光と闇の無限空間	An infinite space of light and darkness where ultimate knowledge lives.
N/A	Far above the heavens and unknown to humans, exists this extra-dimensional world of divinity, from which gods look down on the whole of the mortal realm.

銀河だけでもバカ広いのにそんな銀河がとんでもない数あるくらい宇宙は広いのだぞ！ → "The galaxy alone is ridiculously wide, but the universe is so vast that there are an unbelievable number of such galaxies!"

"とんでもない" is used to describe the number of galaxies, which translates into "unthinkable; unexpected; outrageous; offensive".

Thank you very much, null

 

[Tarang123]

4 galaxies was never accepted as there is clearly far more than just 4 galaxies in the universe

4 galaxies were quadrants.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yeah, the cosmology thing is getting repeated was getting obnoxious for reasons Luffy and I repeated multiple times.

But as for GT just being another timeline; the Toei continuity has no proof of having the other 11 universes among other things and "Parallel timeline" is more or less used as another term to say it's a different continuity. The only time where I could think of it as being literal is that they're both timelines within the Dragon Ball Heroes multiverse, but I still not sure about using GT's afterlife being separated by time and space as a justification for 2-C sized U7 for DBS. But I am somewhat neutral but leaning towards thinking the cosmology stuff should stay the same as they are.

Medeus, Could you close this topic, Omega is endless derailment here and not helping at the moment.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yes, we have a new thread here

https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragonball-cosmology-revision-part-3.150265/

I will close this one up now.