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He created the entire Banjo and Kazooie verse, which has it's own Space and Time. I don't know if that's a 4D feat but that's the closes thing I can remember
 
Why are we even talking about plot hax? LOG AP stomps Solaris. Solaris scales to what, 3 universes? For all we know LOG created every Rareware verse (with the exception of Donkey King Country)
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
Exactly, LOG needs to show the ability to plot hax higher-dimensional beings, since Solaris is one. If he has only used it on 3D creatures, then that is a NLF.
But he incon against Ness tho
 
@ChocomilkAlex The Sonic verse has more than 3 universes and Solaris would destroy all of them.

Solaris existing in the past, present, and future also means that LOG would need to use AoE attacks with universal+ range at least otherwise he won't do a thing to him.
 
They actually tried to justify that Shadow the Hedgehog contains 100+ timeline? That's just game mechanics. Also isn't it confirmed that the true ending is the only canon ending?
 
If Solaris' AP is in the 300+ timeline range, it should be able to one-shot here.

That being said, LoG's plot hax has been shown to work throughout time, shown by Mumbo Jumbo when LoG changed the game from a collectathon to a driving game, so it'd have no problem getting past Solaris' type 3 acausality.

If you wanted me to come, you shoulda messaged me
 
Right now, no. I don't wanna answer that until the Banjo-Kazooie CRT has gone up and gone through though.

His match against Ness is still fair btw, since only Ness' consciousness is 4-D, afaik.
 
It's more like it changes the plot of the world itself rather than individual character's plots. Still, read above.
 
Theuser789 said:
So I vote for Solaris and the LoG votes should be invalid since he can't plot hax Solaris
If it can't affect Solaris, this'd be a stomp, no?
 
If it can't affect Solaris, this'd be a stomp, no?

Idk actualy, does he have other win-cons aside from plot-hax?
 
The 'plot' of a book doesn't even exist. Plot is meant as more of a meta form of fate manipulation, not literally rewriting a book.
 
Theuser789 said:
Idk actualy, does he have other win-cons aside from plot-hax?
Not currently, no. If Solaris' AP was still in the double digit universes, LoG may have stood a chance.
 
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