Extradimensional Tiering Description Addition Proposal:

[ElajRuengies]

Alright, because this has been annoying me for a while, here's the skinny:

Existing in Higher Dimensional Space is not equivalent to possessing Higher Dimensional 'Weight.'

By "weight" I don't mean size, I mean potency. As an example, imagine folding six 2-D squares into the 3rd Dimension to make a cube.

The resulting cube now obviously has depth, and it even has volume too. However, as the 2-D Squares are infinitely thin, the cube has no mass or weight, and thus would take no energy to move around. Furthermore, the hollow cube is not equivalent to an uncountably infinite amount of squares stacked on top of each other, it is only equivalent to the six.

Now with that example in mind, imagine something similar but for higher dimensions, and we've got an issue in how we Tier things.

"Alright, sure." You may (or may not) think, "But that sounds pretty niche, there aren't gonna be that many examples in storytelling analogous to that." And perhaps you'd be right, if String Theory wasn't a thing. (Thanks Supersymmetry Theory, because wasting money on bigger particle colliders wasn't enough for you.)

You know the whole 10 to 11-D Multiverse shtick because String Theory that a lot of Verses have? The strings themselves aren't 11-D, they can just vibrate in 11 orthogonal (at right angles to every other axis of movement) directions (technically it's way more complicated than that but that doesn't change the point). There's no hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper-mass anywhere. Significantly affecting an infinite 4-D multiverse existing in 11-D, but with no parts actually having 11-D weight, would be no different than affecting a normal infinite 4-D multiverse.

Obviously sorting the examples of Verses which have Higher Dimensional Weight and those which don't is just unfeasible, so instead I propose the following addition to the Tier List Page:

For the sake of indexing, VSBattleWiki treats affecting structures existing in Higher Dimensional Space as implying Higher Dimensional Potency, despite how the two are not equivalent.

Is this practice technically wrong? Sure, but everyone else (cough, Death Battle, cough) does it too, so it doesn't matter.

 

[KLOL506]

@DontTalkDT

 

[DontTalkDT]

But, we already don't do that.
We have always made a distinction between being higher dimensional and just existing in a higher dimensional space.

 

[ElajRuengies]

But, we already don't do that.
We have always made a distinction between being higher dimensional and just existing in a higher dimensional space.

It doesn’t say this anywhere in the extradimensional tiers of the Tier List page. Instead, correspondence to higher dimensional spaces (and spaces alone) is reiterated.

In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^5 (5-dimensional real coordinate space).

In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^6 to R^9 (6 to 9-dimensional real coordinate space).

In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^10 to R^11 (10 to 11-dimensional real coordinate space).

And if that's the case, then that needs to be fixed, and every instance of String Theory based higher dimensional tiering needs to be changed, since it doesn't qualify.

Also, this creates a problem in instances where the technicalities of something's higher dimensionality is never specified, which is often.

 

[DontTalkDT]

It doesn't say that anywhere, because there never was a consistent need to tell people that a cube won't become 5D just from existing in 5D space.
I also don't see why you quote the parts that say that you have to affect the whole R^n structure, which is n-dimensional.
String Theory with tiny extra-dimensions hasn't qualified for any of this for 10 years or something.

Overall, you are suggesting we stop a practice which we either last used somewhere between a decade ago or literally never.

 

[KaramcaS]

We are in the 4-D Universe but we are not 4-D, everyone knows that