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It was all a part of Ultimas plan, by tricking us into thinking there was gay sex it made Clive/Mythos stronger
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Final Fantasy 16 discussion thread
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Wouldn't be out of place for him
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The lack of Leviathan to provide water, has made peeps thirsty that's all...Dawg what?
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Maybe?
It's hard to tell since Ultima uses a lot of illusions and mind manipulation with people. And after this Clive just kinda snaps back standing in the exact same spot he was when everything seemed to freeze. So not clear if Ultima actually just stopped time or if he just starting messing with Clives mind like he tends to do.
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I haven't finished the story yet, does Ultima use illusions or mind manipulation offensively in a fight?
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He uses mind manipulation at the end of one of his fights but besides that he doesn't use illusions / mind manipulation in his boss battles.
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Likely tho cause Clive is actually just a ******* chad by the end of the game and lik mega major resist Ultima's calling and his supernatural will and other resistances are at their peak.
I mean Joshua even notes at that Stage, Clive will NEVER become Ultima's vessel
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Yeah I think at that point he's not using because it can't work on Clive anymore, rest of the game has him using illusions / mind fuckery a lot so him not using during his only serious fight is just because he can't overcome Clives will.
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So in terms of profiles, who's dealing with who?
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Dust is doing Dion, I'll do the main man Gav or torgal maybe
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I admit I'm kind of interested in Barnabas/Odin
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His barrier of darkness makes anything that comes into it just poof once they make contact with it, but I don't recall anything about his Zantetsuken straight up erasing matter from existence
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How do we calc the whole cut the sea/ocean in two stuff btw?
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Could be possibly since we know it has NPI and can apparently sever "will" itself according to ultima
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Is the horse turning to dust here deconstruction for Zantetsuken? Or is it just that it disintegrates whenever it dies
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the later
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How about Clive, Joshua, and Kufka? Who want to make the profiles for them?
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I mean I could but it wouldn't be anytime soon since I'm like already working on several profiles for a couple other series atmHow about Clive, Joshua, and Kufka? Who want to make the profiles for them?
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aside from Dion I'm also thinking of doing Ultima and Jumbo Josh as well
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Should the Eikons get their own profile or simply be a secondary key for their Dominant?
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Neither its listed as another rating in the key not a new key or seperate profile
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Don't they have different physiology as eikons? Wouldn't that be a new key
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Don't think having a different physiology is enough for a new key, they can probably have different tabbers in the P&A section due to gaining some abilities not available to their human forms (Like Regeneration) but I think we can just do their ratings in one key.
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If anyone's making profiles for a Dominant, it would be best to add a justification/feat for their "higher when transformed". Like "Ifrit can overpower this meteor Clive and Joshua struggled to fight against in base". It would make things easier to quantify in VS Threads
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We should then put a picture for the Eikon themselves in their profile as well
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The way I see it, since early game Ifrit is Island level+ the weaker Dominants won't get High 6-C. Since pre-timeskip Clive can fight Garuda who in turn can hold her own against Ifrit then they should be 6-C+, higher as <insert Eikon here>.
Given how high into Island level+ Ifrit is (90.97 gigatons) and the stronger Eikons scale way above pre-timeskip Ifrit (Easy example being Ramuh one shotting him) then they'd be 6-C+, High 6-C as <insert Eikon here> due to upscaling, with I think Barnabas and late game Clive being the only Dominant to be High 6-C without their Eikons due to how cracked they are.
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We've already had this figured out for a couple of months now see
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Given that we're getting High 6-C characters, I kinda want some FFXVI vs Nasuverse matches now, same for Injustice
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Note that you need to equalize the servant invul, even tho it can't be added but that will be cool to see
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That invulnerability only works on regular weapons. They shouldn't get pierced or cut by any sword user but they can still be hurt
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The invul is 4-D
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I mean yeah, it goes without saying, plus most wouldn't use their NP (particulary broken characters like Karna)
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Servants can be hurt by shit that are not universal+
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Meaningless, 4D hax doesn't always be on universal level, those thing can be applied to lower tiers too
It seems you have no idea or knowledge over this so you better drop it
