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It most certianly is and do you have all of the scans for the japanese version
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Final Fantasy 16 discussion thread
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How are you supposed to quantify it? This is the Japanese dialogue
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Would qualify as significantly affecting a universe thus being a low 2-C feat given the statement and visuals
Aside from that
Joshua says like 2 or 3 lines here, where are the rest?
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I'm talking about the visuals, it doesn't show a universe being destroyed. A black void like that is too vague
That's all of them, that's how different the original script is from the English version
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Not at all not really considering the statement
Meh I rewatched it is just the one line actually its Clive who has 2 lines but regardless you also forgot to check the in game lore which also says the exact same thing
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Warping space also counts as warping the geometries of the world, and we don't grant all space manip users tier 2 AP, so I think this is unquantifiable too
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False we in fact do give tier 2 AP for doing so on a universal scale, hence our requirements for "significantly affecting" a universe sized structure and I'd say constricting "everything" leaving it as a black void is easily a low 2-C feat
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Where does it say its on a universal scale?
Again, the "constricting all of creation" statement is only in the dub
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And again its also backed by the in game lore which also confirms its validity, I'm not sure why you're trying to act like the two are just completely seperate things
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You mean the lore which I already addressed by saying its not on a universal scale? Warping the "geometries that define the world" does not mean its on a universal scale
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Buddy the cutscenes statement says he's warping all creation. You're just talking in circles atp
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... how many times have I mentioned that this is only said in the dub?
You said Omega was constricting all of creation, and I responded by saying the statement was only in the dub. Then you said its backed by the lore which I addressed by saying it doesn't actually prove it was on a universal scale. Then you went back to mentioning the dub only "constricting all of creation" statement, something that you accepted to being a dub only thing. Its very clear you are the one arguing in circles and I am 100% sure you are going to respond with "the lore backs it up" again
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You're saying this as if both are completely disconnected statements which they aren't, it being dub only doesn't matter when the character lore affirms it and when you ask for the range it comes from the statement you're just writing off.
Gonna just agree to disagree with ya on this one because its non sense
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I got the raw scan of the Omega bestiary description and it doesn't mention anything about warping the geometries of the world, or anything similar
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So anything new? Have profiles already been made?
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No my pc is still jacked up so i can't make progress on profiles how I'd like
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I still have my Barnabas blog but I lack calcs and it would still need some help (I believe other blogs including with calcs were made to). If I had enough, maybe I could post the profile and help get things started (maybe, don't know if that would work)
Blog is here
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Blog is here
Barnabas Tharmr
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The ratings are all mostly correct, well he'd actually be sub-rel thoI still have my Barnabas blog but I lack calcs and it would still need some help (I believe other blogs including with calcs were made to). If I had enough, maybe I could post the profile and help get things started (maybe, don't know if that would work)
Blog is here
Barnabas Tharmr
And AP should be like this too:
Island level+, Large Island level with Semi-Priming, higher as Odin
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Anywho use this for hax because there's some that they all share for reasonsI still have my Barnabas blog but I lack calcs and it would still need some help (I believe other blogs including with calcs were made to). If I had enough, maybe I could post the profile and help get things started (maybe, don't know if that would work)
Blog is here
Barnabas Tharmr
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These should be the same and the scans are on the Bahamut profile
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Magic & Subjective Reality (Can channel aether to manifest his imagination in the form of spells[2])
Supernatural Willpower (As a Dominant he possesses a tolerance to large amounts of Aether and Aetherfloods that turn most people Akashic[6], which strips people of their very will to make him thralls of Ultima or frenzied monsters[7], Dion himself possesses even greater will than other Dominants such as Benedikda and Hugo
Transformation & Large Size (Type 1) (Dominants can perform Semi-priming and Priming, which allows them to partially transform and use some of their Eikons power and fully transform into their Eikon respectively[10], with Dions Eikon, Bahamut, being this large), Absorption & Statistics Amplification (Dominants and[11] their Eikons can absorb aether to increase their power[12], he can create light orbs that were drawing in more Aether than Joshua had ever seen and absorbed the heart of a Mothercrystal which greatly increased his strength[13]), Power Bestowal (Dominants can grant their[14] powers[15], unto[16] others[17]
Resistance to Corruption (Type 2), Mind Manipulation, & Madness Manipulation (As a Dominant he has a resistance to large amounts of Aether and Aetherfloods that turn most people Akashic[6], Akashics being people that have turned into frenzied monsters[19] devoid of any intelligence and sense of self they previously had[20], or thralls that are completely under Ultimas control[21]) Fire Manipulation (Can withstand numerous attacks from Ifrit and Pheonix without being burned[13])
Supernatural Willpower (As a Dominant he possesses a tolerance to large amounts of Aether and Aetherfloods that turn most people Akashic[6], which strips people of their very will to make him thralls of Ultima or frenzied monsters[7], Dion himself possesses even greater will than other Dominants such as Benedikda and Hugo
Transformation & Large Size (Type 1) (Dominants can perform Semi-priming and Priming, which allows them to partially transform and use some of their Eikons power and fully transform into their Eikon respectively[10], with Dions Eikon, Bahamut, being this large), Absorption & Statistics Amplification (Dominants and[11] their Eikons can absorb aether to increase their power[12], he can create light orbs that were drawing in more Aether than Joshua had ever seen and absorbed the heart of a Mothercrystal which greatly increased his strength[13]), Power Bestowal (Dominants can grant their[14] powers[15], unto[16] others[17]
Resistance to Corruption (Type 2), Mind Manipulation, & Madness Manipulation (As a Dominant he has a resistance to large amounts of Aether and Aetherfloods that turn most people Akashic[6], Akashics being people that have turned into frenzied monsters[19] devoid of any intelligence and sense of self they previously had[20], or thralls that are completely under Ultimas control[21]) Fire Manipulation (Can withstand numerous attacks from Ifrit and Pheonix without being burned[13])
Calcs here I suppose
Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 1 (Eikonic feats vol 1)
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Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 2
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Eikon Height's Final fantasy 16
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Final Fantasy 16 calc compilation 3
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Alright, I'll try at least get the calcs and stats done by tonight and try to get stuff for the notable attacks and intelligence as soon as possible (currently busy with FFVII Rebirth and wow there's a LOT to process)
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Same Rebirth is a lot lol, I'm on chapter 13 rn
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Finised the game today. The ending was incredible
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Western translations should likely take priority or be equally as valid bare minimum here since that's squares main audience for this release and was specifically the central point of its development.
Very big focus on being developed for our audiences rather than Japan's
There's like dozens of interviews and articles about thst specifically so here's a couple
'Final Fantasy 16' interview reveals a controversial change for the series
'Final Fantasy 16' seems to be focused on its western audience first and foremost, highlighting a trend Square Enix and Sony are following.
Final Fantasy 16 producer Naoki Yoshida made Game of Thrones mandatory
Game of Thrones was a big inspiration for Final Fantasy 16, whether the RPG makers wanted it to be or not
ftw.usatoday.com
Also
We got a new look at rising tide
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That is a WILD looking Tonberry
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Legit looks like it actually cleaves your soul
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Bought FFXVI and began yesterday so I'll be able to see the feats for myself
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Catering to the west doesn't mean the dub is more canon at all, this is fairly common in japanese video games that aren't weeb shitWestern translations should likely take priority or be equally as valid bare minimum here since that's squares main audience for this release and was specifically the central point of its development.
Very big focus on being developed for our audiences rather than Japan's
There's like dozens of interviews and articles about thst specifically so here's a couple
'Final Fantasy 16' interview reveals a controversial change for the series
'Final Fantasy 16' seems to be focused on its western audience first and foremost, highlighting a trend Square Enix and Sony are following.www.inverse.com
Final Fantasy 16 producer Naoki Yoshida made Game of Thrones mandatory
Game of Thrones was a big inspiration for Final Fantasy 16, whether the RPG makers wanted it to be or not
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It's less about catering and more being sure than the two versions don't go in opposite directions and make the lore too confusing. Translations should be handled so that all versions of a fictional work say the same thing, or at least close enough that it doesn't seem two versions of the same story say something different
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The dub says different things though
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Doesn't really matter as square especially noted for this one to put a precedent over it even moreso than they would usually, and that's at the core of this games development from the start
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Again, why does that make it more canon than the original script?
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You're asking why the version and core of the game they put more focus into is more or equally as relevant as the japanese version which came secondary to the core they were establishing
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Just got out of the Garuda fight. Pretty awesome.
Benedikta/Garuda has a pretty impressive arsenal. Even aside from the obvious (air and weather manip and flight), she can create minions that have a degree of her powers, manifest claws and wings, regeneration (Low-Mid) and perhaps some form of earth manip (since she can merge rocks and stone constructs to create large boulders). I'd say she also has a form of energy manipulation, as in air-based energy projectiles, slashes and even explosions but that could also simply fall under air
Benedikta/Garuda has a pretty impressive arsenal. Even aside from the obvious (air and weather manip and flight), she can create minions that have a degree of her powers, manifest claws and wings, regeneration (Low-Mid) and perhaps some form of earth manip (since she can merge rocks and stone constructs to create large boulders). I'd say she also has a form of energy manipulation, as in air-based energy projectiles, slashes and even explosions but that could also simply fall under air
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I think this is telekinesis, not earth manipulation. If she could only use the power on stone and earth then it would though
Iirc she's also able to form an energy weapon that can pull people towards her, that's also useful
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That inner fight with Ifrit with Find Your Flame in the background was awesome, I got massive chills playing that
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Yeah its pretty good, they have some amazing music and set pieces in the game
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For convenience I've made a sandbox for the abilities all Dominants get so for anyone making a profile for them you don't have to skim through the P&A section of my Dion sandbox and pluck them out. Comes pre-packed with references as well.
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Looking good
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I'll look for more when um home
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