Fire Dog vs Fire Cat

[Landon_Avery]

Arcanine vs Matatabi (Nibi)



Rules:
Fight ends in KO or death

Speed =ized


Location: Cinnabar Island

 

[Landon_Avery]

Bump

 

[Landon_Avery]

Bump

 

[Landon_Avery]

Bump

 

[Mindovin]

It's can go either way really. Only way for to Matatabi can win this if she destroy island with BDs with his range. If she can destroy the island or push Arcanine to water she maybe win. I can make argument but i can't give a vote because i don't know potency of Arcanine's weaknesses. Especially Arcanine has weakness to ground?

I wait other arguments for vote.

 

[Starter_Pack]

This is a tricky debate, especially with speed being equalized. Both characters have similar levels of AP and Durability, and both have similar methods of attack. However, I am barely going to lean towards Arcanine for several reasons. For one, Arcanine has access to Flash Fire, which would not only nullify Matatabi's Fireball attack, but it would boost Arcanine's own Fire attacks. And while Matatabi's Beast Ball would be very hard to dodge normally, Arcanine has access to speed boosting moves like Agility and priority moves like Extreme Speed, which would be more than enough for Arcanine to dodge Matatabi's attacks while doing a fair amount of blitzing on its own. And finally, I don't see anything in Matatabi's profile that says it can resist the status inflicting moves Arcanine has access to like Toxic or Swagger, which could really mess Matatabi up and wear it down overtime. So, even with the size advantage Matatabi clearly holds over Arcanine, Arcanine's speed and move variety allows me to believe that Arcanine will come out as the victor. But, this would come at high difficulty, because Matatabi is obviously no pushover, and one wrong move on Arcanine's part would spell disaster for the Legendary Pokémon. However, thanks to its movepool, more often than not, I do believe that Arcanine would come out victorious.

Winner: Arcanine

 

[CrackerVolley]

Big Fire Bork for Healing via Morning Sun, Stat Boosting, and the parahax on Thunder Fang, and Reversal being useful if he ever gets near death.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Big Fire Bork for Healing via Morning Sun, Stat Boosting, and the parahax on Thunder Fang, and Reversal being useful if he ever gets near death.

^ Add this to my earlier reasoning as well. They're very good points as well.

 

[Mindovin]

Arcanine for reasons stated by Starter Pack and TheNeolancer.

 

[Landon_Avery]

Arcanine: 3

Nibi: 0

 

[Landon_Avery]

Bump

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Arcanine FRA

 

[Landon_Avery]

Bump

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Bump

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Bump

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Bump


Put how many votes are needed left on the title

 

[Landon_Avery]

Arcanine: 4

Nibi: 0

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Arcanine for the wonderful reasons Starter Pack gave.

 

[Landon_Avery]

Bump


Put how many votes are needed left on the title

Will that really help?

 

[ZackMoon1234]

@Landon Avery


Yeah, it speeds up the thread faster due to at least the fans for votes sides at least wanting to conclude the thread/defend their sides in my opinion.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

RK9 for reasons above

 

[Starter_Pack]

Bump since only one vote remains here.

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

The Legendary Dog that's not Entai FRA

 

[Starter_Pack]

Arcanine: 7 (Starter Pack, TheNeolancer, Mindovin, ZackMoon1234, The real cal howard, LordGriffin1000, ApiesDeathbyLazors)

Matatabi: 0

Inconclusive: 0

The winner by unanimous vote is Arcanine!

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Sweet, and both pages are unlocked so they can just be added.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Mind adding it

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Taken care of.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I am a little too late but,Matatabi is scaled from 843 Gigatons while Arcanine from 621.

Matatabi one shotes.

Edit: Results should be removed for now,people voted FRA based on 1 vote wich is not legit now,i think so.

 

[CrackerVolley]

I am a little too late but,Matatabi is scaled from 843 Gigatons while Arcanine from 621.
Matatabi one shotes.

That's like 1.35 times stronger. Not one shotting whatsoever

 

[Dzhindzholia]

621 is the maximum that Arcanine can tank,anything higher will kill it or harm badly.

 

[CrackerVolley]

621 is the maximum that can Arcanine can tank,anything higher will kill it or harm badly.

Nope. It's just means that is the threshhold a attack needs to be for an attack to feel like a punch to Arcanine.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

My point stands still, Matatabi kill him with a couple hits or a BB.

 

[Kaltias]

Yeah no. 621 is what Arcanine can survive multiple times.

An AP advantage of x1,35 just means that they hurt a bit more

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Bijuus can survive their own BB with minimal damage too.

Matatabi still kill with a couple of hits or BB.

 

[Starter_Pack]

So, even with the size advantage Matatabi clearly holds over Arcanine, Arcanine's speed and move variety allows me to believe that Arcanine will come out as the victor. But, this would come at high difficulty, because Matatabi is obviously no pushover, and one wrong move on Arcanine's part would spell disaster for the Legendary Pokémon. However, thanks to its movepool, more often than not, I do believe that Arcanine would come out victorious.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

BB is AOE attack,sooo.

 

[Starter_Pack]

And while Matatabi's Beast Ball would be very hard to dodge normally, Arcanine has access to speed boosting moves like Agility and priority moves like Extreme Speed, which would be more than enough for Arcanine to dodge Matatabi's attacks while doing a fair amount of blitzing on its own.

Seriously, I have addressed all of this before.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

I want to see how he dodges an attack that expandes almost instantly in several kilometers.

Arcanine can not harm Matatabi in this fight,so i don't see how he can win this.And can you explain better on how he wins?Cause i don't see a legit vote here.Your only point is "Arcanine can amp his speed".


The thing that annoys me more is that people didn't even try to make researchies before voting for "reasons" above.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

>Can't harm Matatabi.

How...exactly? A gap of 1.35 times isn't much.

 

[Thatoneguy78]

Arcanine also has statistics reduction so the doggo could lower the AP gap depending on how that works.