FTL Max Moves/Z-Moves in Pokémon?

[Rodri_"Dante"]

Not sure if this was ever brought up, but I doubt it.

Basically, the move Detect allows the user to dodge most attacks for a turn. This includes moves like Solar Beam, Signal Beam or Mirror Shot, which move at the speed of light.

However, when it comes to either Max Moves or Z-Moves, Detect doesn't allow the user to fully dodge the move and takes a third of the damage instead, even with moves like Breakneck Blitz which they should be able to dodge just by moving to the side.

Does that make Max and Z-Moves FTL, or do we count it as a game mechanic because in game Detect is just Protect with another name?

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

BUMP

 

[QuasiYuri]

Likely Game Mechanic.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

I mean, we consider Phantom Force a Precognition bypassing move.

 

[00potato]

I don’t know if this can purely be called game mechanics.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

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[InfiniteDay]

I believe it's either game mechanics or it gives you a reaction speed boost for a turn.

 

[Cropfist]

Game mechanic.

 

[Rodri_"Dante"]

So should Shadow Force/Phantom Force bypassing Precognition be removed? Or are we cherry picking what's game mechanics and what not?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Tbh Phantom Force has a lot of possible reasonning besides just bypassing precog (like being outside of Detect's range, since it's litteraly an attack from a sort of parallel multiverse).

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

In fairness to the whole game mechanic thing, aren’t Z-moves supposed to be powers granted by Ultra Necrozma?