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Nah lol, I was planning on getting to him eventually, but I haven’t started working on him.Come againyou were already doing work on him
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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
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Bro is just the poor man's green lantern. Can't believe people scale this fraud to SpectreWanted to let yall know I've reading through Blue Beetle related storylines to fix his wiki shit and that 4-B rating is hella fraudulent also the guy gardner scaling is bunk and oracle literally debunks that
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Real shit I respect it but yeah I've done no real work yet just reading and scan gathering, I'll be doing a lot to try and follow along the right path
Also facts Guy Gardner no diffed bro and was then stated on top of that to actually still not be going all out and could've just easily killed him. No clue how that made it on the profile
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Because it’s an older profile and like 90% of the older DC profiles are horrifically bad.
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I was wondering something.
Post-Crisis Darkseid was shown to have knowledge of the stuff before Crisis, and (to an extent) little changed from their perspective following Crisis. It's stated by Morrison and (IIRC) one of the Final Crisis introductory pages that Death of the New Gods did 'happen' as part of Final Crisis from a limited perspective.
So, if Darkseid's Godhead encompasses all of the fragmentary versions of himself throughout the Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis timelines, wouldn't that technically mean an infinite number of 2-C Darkseids due to the Pre-Crisis multiverse being based on infinite possibilities?
Post-Crisis Darkseid was shown to have knowledge of the stuff before Crisis, and (to an extent) little changed from their perspective following Crisis. It's stated by Morrison and (IIRC) one of the Final Crisis introductory pages that Death of the New Gods did 'happen' as part of Final Crisis from a limited perspective.
So, if Darkseid's Godhead encompasses all of the fragmentary versions of himself throughout the Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis timelines, wouldn't that technically mean an infinite number of 2-C Darkseids due to the Pre-Crisis multiverse being based on infinite possibilities?
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Hm? Why is that?Wanted to let yall know I've reading through Blue Beetle related storylines to fix his wiki shit and that 4-B rating is hella fraudulent also the guy gardner scaling is bunk and oracle literally debunks that
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He never ACTUALLY fights reverse flash for one and so far as far as the Guy Gardner scaling goes its been consistently stated Blue Beetle was not in fact nearly on Gardner's level several times now and that he could've been casually killed in their encounter. We'll see how things go as I read more but from what I'm seeing currently those justifications are already faulty.
Nvm its actually mentioned further down
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But he blocked Guy's attacks with his shield and could take his drill construct when he was trying to kill him. He is significantly weaker than him, but still able to stay conscious after Guy hit him with the intent to murder
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Dalesean in the way to expose the most absurd scaling in the verse:
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Oracle legitimately said to Jaime that IF Guy WANTED him dead HE'D BE DEAD soooo like idk, like the scarab itself literally pulled Jaime into another dimensional space because it didn't believe he could take on a green lantern
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This is a claim, it can be true or false.
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Yeah but also like why would the scarab actively flee and jump dimensions disregarding jaime when it's also saying Green lanterns are > them.
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Also this specifically I take fault with since he didn't even like use it, he knocked him to the floor but never drilled into him cause Jaime showed his face and Guy stopped, had he drilled its implied jaime would've died right there.
He only actually hits Jaime 3 times, one from a lighter off guard blast the others were a punch and smacking him to the floor with the drill
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Uh yeah so he would die to Guy Gardner eventually but can still take his attacks pretty well. I don't see why this means he doesn't scale to him at all. Yeah he didn't start drilling but he already hit him with killing intent.
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Idk still feel pretty faulty for me but as i said I've got lots more reading to do but I also have plenty scans already and I don't think he remotely scales to Guy. I do believe Blue is at least 5-B but not 4-B
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I will support your back, don't worry.
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Also lanterns can vary in stats, just to add onto that.
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So, I saw that we have an actual page for My Adventures with Superman, and not any profiles; whose working on those right now?
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The calcs were just recently made so I think profiles are gonna be made soon
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Do you know whose making the profiles? I've watched the show, and could probably whip up a profile today honestly.
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I've been cooking the Superman profile and doing the calcs for the verse
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JohnCenaNation asked me to post the following question for him here.
"I wanted to know if General Zod's super move from Injustice universe is still treated as an outlier because it's a much better significant feat than all other feats, because it's not. I was reading Injustice: Year Zero on RCO, and guess what Batman said to Superman in Issue #14 page #7?
"I've seen you move a moon. I've seen you fly into the heart of a star." Considering Batman is both the brain of Justice League and Insurgency, he would know what Superman is capable of and we shouldn't treat this statement as an hyperbole so it further backs up General Zod's super move being legit. Do you mind showing this to the Injustice experts?"
"I wanted to know if General Zod's super move from Injustice universe is still treated as an outlier because it's a much better significant feat than all other feats, because it's not. I was reading Injustice: Year Zero on RCO, and guess what Batman said to Superman in Issue #14 page #7?
"I've seen you move a moon. I've seen you fly into the heart of a star." Considering Batman is both the brain of Justice League and Insurgency, he would know what Superman is capable of and we shouldn't treat this statement as an hyperbole so it further backs up General Zod's super move being legit. Do you mind showing this to the Injustice experts?"
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RanaProGamer made the most recent Injustice CRT, maybe he knows
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I just remembered that it was also dismissed because Zod is a DLC character, and he canonically died years earlier in the Injustice Year 2 comic.
And not a DLC storyline or anything, just a Season Pass. So the Galactic Destruction super move is outright non-canon.
And not a DLC storyline or anything, just a Season Pass. So the Galactic Destruction super move is outright non-canon.
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It says "A moon" not "The Moon". Moons vary in sizes and not all of them are 5-C, that was the reason for the rejection.
Enduring the heart of a star is like... 8-A iirc
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Btw, did we ever get onto fixing the speed for the Injustice characters?
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Just gonna comment on a discrepancy here, Zod died AFTER the events of Injustice GAU, in the Injustice 2 comic, NOT the Year 2 comic.
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I always saw it similar to how we treated MK's 5-A fatality. Where it's not treated as canon, and we went with what's treated consistently. In case of Injustice, we had two 6-C feats and the Low 6-B feat was done overtime. But yeah to say Zod isn't part of the continuity is incorrect.
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Zod's appearance doesn't make sense in terms of continuity, true, but what about the feat itself? Contrary to belief, it's not exactly the best feat we have in regards to our top-tiers.
During Superman's battle with Darkseid, Orion states that the might of their fight would cause the planet to explode with such force that it would poison the entire galaxy. At the same time, Orion also goes on to say that the Source was not clear on whether or not Superman would survive, and such a statement causes even Darkseid to reconsider continuing their battle.
Oh, yeah, one more thing regarding that fight; look at how Apokolips is reacting to their battle. Is there any possible way that they could scale from the fire spewing from the planet? Because that looks like a serious uprade.
Anyways, finally, I wanna ask what sort of anti-feats we have for Injustice to reconsider taking both the Zod feat, and the feats I have given, into account? (If the latter one I brought up is even usable.)
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Superman wouldn't be 5-B from this due to inverse square law, and it would likely lower results to like Tier 6. Also the radiation poisoning the galaxy wouldn't be AP, just a hax feat with insane range.
This one seems more like a chain reaction to them fighting, they're not exactly the ones causing the fire, it's the core, who's overloading from them shaking the planet.
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Being at the center of a planetary explosion wouldn't result in anywhere near Tier 5?
I'd also imagine that if such an explosion was destructive enough to send radiation hurtling across lightyears it'd constitute for AP at least some-what.
Yeah, that makes sense. I wasn't so sure of it myself, just figured I'd bring it up, given that they are still the cause of it regardless.
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Superman isn't at the epicenter of it. He wasn't even near the core iirc.
I'm pretty sure radiation does not translate to AP. And considering Darkseid was gonna die, I doubt Superman would survive if it was an AP feat.
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Admittedly, he wasn't. But he was going deeper and deeper into the planet as the fight with Darkseid progressed. I imagined that still standing on the planet when it exploded would be more than Tier 6 (at least higher than what he's rated now) but now that I think about it, the 'possibility' of Superman surviving is probably too vague to consider anyways. I'll concede here.
I don't know about the first part either, so nothing to say. I only bothered to bring it up because the Source said Superman's fate was unclear, but at best he'd downscale from it, if it'd kill Darkseid it'd most certainly at least cripple Supes.
I actually did find something quite interesting that's on the profile. Here, it seems like that explosion was directly caused by them, given the narration and the panel focuses specifically on that explosion, before venturing deeper into the planet to take a look at Superman and Darkseid.
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The fires in the first panel are just the typical Apokolips fires. The second one tho definitely seems to be them. Looks somewhere in Tier 6.
