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Gojo vs Alex Mercer

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Another stomp, Robo. Seriously, you have to think at least a little bit more before posting these matchups.

Alex can't touch Gojo so all of his main hax are immediately cut off since they require him to touch the opponent with his biomass in some form.

Meanwhile, Alex has no resistances to Gojo's spatial, matter, void, and information hax.

Low-High, and even Mid-High, won't save him for very long. He's just going to get beaten around until Gojo eventually uses Purple to erase him.
 
ok maybe if alex and gojo are 5m apart
Gojo passively has an infinity barrier around himself, check his page. It's a spatial technique that splits the distance between himself and the opponent into infinite points that have to be crossed in order to actually touch him.

Alex can't do that do the distance doesn't matter. His only chance is getting Gojo to be the one who touches him and infect him that way.
 
Wouldn't Alex's gas be able to bypass Infinity? On Gojo's profile it says Infinity has limitations when faced with more intricate chemical structures, such as toxins.
 
Wouldn't Alex's gas be able to bypass Infinity? On Gojo's profile it says Infinity has limitations when faced with more intricate chemical structures, such as toxins.
Only back when he was a teen.
 
I mean is it said anywhere that he overcame complex chemical structures bypassing Infinity? If so then that should be noted on his profile.
I don't know if it's directly stated but I feel it's pretty obvious he has.

Adult Gojo can easily manipulate space, even at the atomic level. And if he hadn't of figured out poisons, even 13 years later, then I think literally everyone in the series would be carrying poison gasses around.

Also, he isn't ever incapable of phasing out gasses, even in his teen years, he just has difficulty with it, since it involves manipulating more complex molecular structures which require further concentration from his six eyes.

So even if this was a younger key I'd still say the chance of gas affecting him is very minor, especially considering he doesn't even need to focus on defending from anything else, since nothing else Alex has going for him is a threat at all.
 
Not really. There is no such statements for him perfecting infinity on the level it can short out poison.
I don't know if it's directly stated but I feel it's pretty obvious he has.

Adult Gojo can easily manipulate space, even at the atomic level. And if he hadn't of figured out poisons, even 13 years later, then I think literally everyone in the series would be carrying poison gasses around.

Also, he isn't ever incapable of phasing out gasses, even in his teen years, he just has difficulty with it, since it involves manipulating more complex molecular structures which require further concentration from his six eyes.

So even if this was a younger key I'd still say the chance of gas affecting him is very minor, especially considering he doesn't even need to focus on defending from anything else, since nothing else Alex has going for him is a threat at all.


Anyway, can the poisons even inflict his biological hax stuff by themselves or nah? Cause if not RCT probably just shuts them down.
 
You are conceding that poison bypasses an infinite distance on the atomic level. Not only is this assertion wrong, but it’s confirmed wrong, considering Choso’s poisonous blood cannot reach him, period.
None of your scans has nothing to do with what I said. There are different ways a poison can be used. Just because poison in Choso's blood which is slower than and perceived by Gojo isn't reaching Gojo doesn't mean other Poison wouldn't reach him.
 
You can’t prove that it can.
I don't need when Gojo himself states that he can't sort out Poision. Also
Choso's blood which is slower and perceived by Gojo isn't reaching Gojo doesn't mean other Poison wouldn't reach him.
Feel free to show me scans for poison which can spread by air can't reach Gojo.
Poison traveling through liquid like blood compared to traveling through air as a medium are drastically different ways that cant be compared tbh.
Yeah this is my point
 
I don't need when Gojo himself states that he can't sort out Poision. Also
When he was a teenager with an incomplete Limitless.

Feel free to show me scans for poison which can spread by air can't reach Gojo.
Spreading through the air implies traveling. Traveling requires movement. Movement requires distance. Limitless is an infinite distance. It won’t work.
 
guys guys
i made this thread for the non smurf list
does gojo stomp here
we need confirmation that gojo stomps so he can take alex's place in the list
 
When he was a teenager with an incomplete Limitless.
Same infinity technique so which proves my point Gojo was sorting out based on his own skills not because of the technique
Spreading through the air implies traveling. Traveling requires movement. Movement requires distance. Limitless is an infinite distance. It won’t work.
Extraordinary claims needs extraordinary evidence to support it.
Gojo still uses air to breathe. So it's still your burden to prove he had Perfected infinity to the point currently he can sort out Poison on any level.
As best MGQ pointed out choso Poision manipulation is bad example.
I won't be replying if you keep repeating the same thing. I need scans not something which is not written or implied.
 
Why are you guys acting like he couldn't stop gasses at all. He just said it's more difficult for him, not that they completely bypass his Infinity.

And that was him 13 years ago.

If Gojo literally has nothing to focus on BUT some gasses, then I don't see any reason he wouldn't be able to block it out. There is literally nothing else Alex can do.

Even if Gojo just saw the gas and then flew into the air, he'd completely disable any chance of Alex winning.

This argument is dumb.
 
Why did someone have to make this cursed asf matchup. 😫

Anyways, I don't care what the explanations for Gojo's Infinity is, either showcase an explicit scan/statement where adult Gojo's Infinity can filter out chemical substances (e.g. poisons, diseases, micro-organisms, etc.) - even a Word of God statement of that is sufficient - but if Gojo lacks such a scan/statement… Then it can’t be safely said that he can block the viral gasses.

That’s just how feats are evaluated in this site.

Also, blocking out poisonous liquid is not the same as blocking out poisonous gasses - not only because the medium used for the poison is vastly different, but also because it involves two complete different states of matter as well. Gojo needs scans to prove he can block gasses, and so far, Gojo currently only has explicit scans demonstrating that he can block solids and liquids.
 
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man i was just looking at the strongest non smurf list and saw that alex is above gojo
Mercer isn’t even Low 7-C for his base stats anymore, he’s 8-A for his base stats, and only base stats are considered for qualifying for a specific tier in the non-Smurf list.

Mercer should be removed from the Low 7-C non-Smurf list, he can only qualify for the top 10 8-A or the 9-A non-Smurf list now.
 
Low 7-C Gojo is being used. This means this is teenager Gojo, based on the current profile… So we're using the same teenage version of Gojo that struggled against poisons.
he was literally just upgraded, lol. When this match was made, all of his keys were Low 7-C.

Anyway, it's the exact same case with the teenager version.

It being hard for Gojo =/= he can't do it.
 
he was literally just upgraded, lol. When this match was made, all of his keys were Low 7-C.

Anyway, it's the exact same case with the teenager version.

It being hard for Gojo =/= he can't do it.
Yeah, but him saying it is already enough to prove he’s struggling with it - and considering teenage Gojo lacks the scans to prove that he can block poisonous gasses, then he can't block it, and that alone is more than enough indication that him being unable to block it is more likely than him being able to block it.

As far as how this site operates, the burden of proof is on the user to prove a character can do something, but proof is not needed to be provided to state that a character can't do something (so the user needs to provide proof to prove a positive, but they don’t need proof to substantiate a negative). So the burden of proof is on you to prove teenage Gojo can block poisonous gasses by giving explicit scans. If teenage Gojo lacks the explicit scans, then he can't block poisonous gasses because he lacks the feats to do so, it's as simple as that.

If you can't provide the scans, then teenage Gojo's Infinity blocking poisonous gasses can't be substantiated, it’s as simple as that.
 
For the sake of argument, let's argue under the basis that he can't block poisons, then. What's your argument for Alex winning?
 
For the sake of argument, let's argue under the basis that he can't block poisons, then. What's your argument for Alex winning?
Mercer gasses.

And since teenage Gojo can’t block it, he gets caught.

And since teenage Gojo does not appear to have Domain Expansion, he can’t use Unlimited Void, so he has no way to stun Mercer enough to land Hollow Purple on Mercer.

Teenage Gojo also doesn’t appear to possess Teleportation like his adult self does either, so he has no way to avoid it even with speed being equal.

Even if Gojo tries to use Blue to pull the gasses (which teenage Gojo lacks the scans to prove that it’s in-character for him to do that against gas attacks), Mercer has Infinite stamina whereas Gojo doesn’t (and considering even adult Gojo was unable to spam Domain Expansion more than 5-6 times without suffering from brain damage or whatever, along with the fact that there were some statements stating that Gojo's Cursed Energy was running out against Sukuna, teenage Gojo's Cursed Energy is definitely not infinite), so Mercer can just keep trying to infect Gojo until Gojo gets worn down enough for the gasses to land on Gojo.

Due to teenage Gojo only ever having shown to use smaller-sized Hollow Purple to blast a hole in Toji's torso (unlike his adult self who can use a much larger-sized Hollow Purple to obliterate entire surroundings, or practically obliterate an entire city like what Post-Prison Realm Gojo does), teenage Gojo wouldn’t be able to use a Hollow Purple larger than that due to lacking the feats his adult self does… Which means Mercer has a much higher chance of surviving that Toji-sized torso hole caused by Hollow Purple compared to adult Gojo's Hollow Purple - so Mercer just regenerates and gets back to haxing Gojo with the gasses.

And with Mercer having combat applicable Low-High Regeneration, with that Mid-High regeneration that takes hours when regenerating from incineration-level attacks, Gojo's Blue and Red is basically ineffective against Mercer's regeneration that easily works in a few seconds.

Or in short, Gojo gets gassed by Prototype 2 Mercer (who hates Humanity and would try to infect any humans as soon as possible without PiS holding him back), and gets infected.

And while Gojo's Limitless may allow him to manipulate Space at the atomic level, there’s no scans that suggests Gojo's own RCT works anywhere near that level, so it’s very likely the Blacklight Virus molecular-level infection would keep Gojo being a mindless infected - and considering the fact that the Blacklight Virus was shown to immediately convert a victim into an Infected in just 1 second, Gojo's RCT wouldn’t be fast enough to counter that as well (it took him a few Manga pages of fighting for him to regrow an arm if I recall correctly).

And considering the Blacklight Virus is designed to be superior to the Redlight Virus, which has explicit statement of altering the structure of the brain (the thing that also causes Madness Manipulation), teenage Gojo is even more screwed as the brain is what allows a Sorcerer to control their Cursed Energy.

So yeah, Prototype 2 Mercer just gasses teenage Gojo, and infects him.
 
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What's the range of the gas? And what stops Gojo's molecular/atomic level senses from just seeing that gas and moving away from it? If he can't block out gas, there's no reason to assume he'd even get in its range. He has flight.
 
What's the range of the gas? And what stops Gojo's molecular/atomic level senses from just seeing that gas and moving away from it? If he can't block out gas, there's no reason to assume he'd even get in its range. He has flight.
It caused an infection in all of Penn Station the moment it was first unleashed. I think one of the past users estimated that it was at least 200 meters as its range for affecting Penn Station.

Gojo's Six Eyes lacks feats of seeing stuff at the molecular/atomic level. Just because Limitless can manipulate Space at the atomic level doesn’t mean Six Eyes has atomic level perception. So I doubt Gojo can differentiate that it’s infectious gasses rather than "smokescreen" due to lack of Six Eyes feats.

As for trying to move away, he would be trying to outrun/outfly a gas attack that is as fast as he is with speed equalised, especially when they start off 5 meters apart as the OP specified. Good luck for Gojo trying to do that forever when he doesn’t have Infinite stamina, and clearly has finite Cursed Energy. Teenage Gojo would not win in the battle of attrition against Mercer.

Edit: I’m arguing this is most likely to be a stomp, not a decisive victory, by the way.
 
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