Goku and Vegeta fight a giant monkey and lizard (Dragon Ball vs. MonsterVerse)

[Bossbrosish]

(So Dragon Ball's soul damage is now NPI, so this match should be doable again. Updated to be somewhat equal since the AP changed for Dragon Ball)

Resurrection of F Goku and Vegeta, Evolved Godzilla and Kong with B.E.A.S.T. Glove and his Battle Axe are being used. Goku and Vegeta are restricted to Base forms. The battle takes place in Hong Kong, starting 90 meters apart, with speed equalized.

Base Goku and Vegeta AP: 105.3 Kilofoe

Base Goku and Vegeta with charged attacks: 421.2 KiloFoe

Evolved Godzilla and Kong with B.E.A.S.T. Glove AP: 480 KiloFoe

• Base AP gap: (4.55x difference in Godzilla and Kong's favor)
• Charged AP gap: (1.13x in Godzilla and Kong's favor)

Saiyans: 0

Titans: 0


Frieza exterminates both: 0

 

[Arkansalter2]

So DBZ soul hax doesn't damage the soul itself now?

 

[Kellex]

So DBZ soul hax doesn't damage the soul itself now?

Yep, don't see it on there anymore. Soul Damage used to be on Advanced tab.

Ki Manipulation (Dragon Ball)

Ki (気き?, lit. "Air, Breath"), also known as Chi/Qi, Yoki (妖よう気き, Yōki?, lit. "Bewitching energy") or simply Energy (エネルギー, Enerugī?) is the secret energy that lies hidden inside the bodies of humans. By utilizing materialized energy converted from energy inside one's body, one can produce...

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[Bossbrosish]

So DBZ soul hax doesn't damage the soul itself now?

It's non physical interaction now

 

[Supersonicmaker]

following

 

[Arkansalter2]

Alrighty well... lets run it back. Hopefully I'm a little bit more correct this time.
The saiyans are going SS2 off the jump while Goku might go SS3.
Basically what I and lephyr said in this matchup. The saiyans won't be able to do much without their charged attacks.
Goji's Heat and Atomic Breath will def do the trick.
Titans mid-high diff. Hopefully this will stay this time.

 

[StarShooter80]

Not sure how Goji or Kong are gonna land attacks often on Goku and Vegeta considering their acrobatics scaling, instinctive action, analytical prediction, afterimage creation, stealth mastery/limited perception manipulation, teleportation and just being a far smaller target as well. They can deduce how strong the kaijus are from information analysis not too long into the fight and Goku would just overpower them as a SSJ3. Goku can also blind them with solar flare

 

[Arkansalter2]

Not sure how Goji or Kong are gonna land attacks often on Goku and Vegeta considering their acrobatics scaling, instinctive action, analytical prediction, afterimage creation, stealth mastery/limited perception manipulation, teleportation and just being a far smaller target as well. They can deduce how strong the kaijus are from information analysis not too long into the fight and Goku would just overpower them as a SSJ3. Goku can also blind them with solar flare

Yeah but the moment that Goji decides to shoot his beam... that's heat and radiation just being generated around the beam and Goji's general area.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The Atomic Pulse is Goji's best friend in this fight, Goku would have to spam Instant Transmission to avoid it since its a "screw everything around me" move.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

wtachin

 

[StarShooter80]

Yeah but the moment that Goji decides to shoot his beam... that's heat and radiation just being generated around the beam and Goji's general area.

Instant transmission's range would allow for Goku to avoid the attack's general area

 

[Bossbrosish]

Evolved Godzilla and Kong are also extremely nimble despite their massive size. I'm sure they'll be able to land some solid hits in.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Instant transmission's range would allow for Goku to avoid the attack's general area

The Atomic Pulse is Goji's best friend in this fight

What about this thing?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What about this thing?

I literally said in the comment you quoted that Goku would have to spam IT constantly to avoid it since its saturating absolutely everything around Goji.

 

[StarShooter80]

What about this thing?

Like Soul said Goku would have to avoid it with IT, the range for Nuclear Pulse is in Kilometers while IT is Low Multiversal

 

[Supersonicmaker]

goku needs a ki signature to tp away from the nuclear pulse though

 

[StarShooter80]

Assuming this just takes place on IRL Earth he can just teleport to any living being on the planet

 

[Supersonicmaker]

doesn’t sba assume that no other beings are present besides the combatants

 

[Bossbrosish]

doesn’t sba assume that no other beings are present besides the combatants

I believe so yes.

 

[StarShooter80]

It never says anything about regular residents, just outside influence from characters of these other verses aiding them, at least from just the SBA page

 

[Bossbrosish]

Bump

 

[AThe1412]

doesn’t sba assume that no other beings are present besides the combatants

What about plants? They're living beings so it should work.

 

[Bossbrosish]

What about plants? They're living beings so it should work.

I think they need a ki signature, so plants won't work.

 

[Greatsage13th]

What about plants? They're living beings so it should work.

Nope, it more or so requires the ki signatures of sentient beings.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Bump

 

[YuseiDragon1]

Leaning Team Goku due to skill

 

[Greatsage13th]

Yeah, I'll vote team ape and lizard.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Like Soul said Goku would have to avoid it with IT, the range for Nuclear Pulse is in Kilometers while IT is Low Multiversal

Avoid it, but whe he comes back, he's just instantly torched due to how much heat is in the general area.

 

[StarShooter80]

Why would he teleport away from the heat of the area and then just come back to the same area, why wouldn't he just stay away and attack with ki attacks

 

[Arkansalter2]

Why would he teleport away from the heat of the area and then just come back to the same area,

Why wouldn't he? His next option, if it was an option, wouldn't be to try to god snipe them.

why wouldn't he just stay away and attack with ki attacks

Why would that be an option when Ki Blast spam is only a second move? The pulse is like kilometers of range so he's gonna have to teleport mad far.

 

[StarShooter80]

Why wouldn't he? His next option, if it was an option, wouldn't be to try to god snipe them.

Why would that be an option when Ki Blast spam is only a second move? The pulse is like kilometers of range so he's gonna have to teleport mad far.

It only being a second move doesn't dismiss it from being a factor at all, and it being kilometers isn't that big of an issue considering the distance Goku can travel and fire ki attacks from

 

[Arkansalter2]

It only being a second move doesn't dismiss it from being a factor at all, and it being kilometers isn't that big of an issue considering the distance Goku can travel and fire ki attacks from

Does Goku normally spam Ki Blasts at range? Because if thats the case, then the funni hundreds of kilometers beam that he can spin and redirect that has heat and radiation around it's general area should just cover literally everything.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ki Blast Spam is Vegeta's Move, not Goku's. The only time I can ever think of where Goku went for Ki Blast Spam was in a filler scene against Perfect Cell in the Cell Games. Even then those dinky little blasts aren't gonna do much against Godzilla unless Goku is in SSJ3 already and that form is extremely draining compared to all his other forms.

 

[StarShooter80]

Does Goku normally spam Ki Blasts at range?

He uses charged attacks more often than ki spam, which is more useful in this case anyways

Because if thats the case, then the funni hundreds of kilometers beam that he can spin and redirect that has heat and radiation around it's general area should just cover literally everything.

Why not just start off with that it seems far more useful than the heat generation around him

The only time I can ever think of where Goku went for Ki Blast Spam was in a filler scene against Perfect Cell in the Cell Games.

Not filler

 

[YuseiDragon1]

Goku ki spams all the time. Saying that only Vegeta does that is just trying to get a win rather than atually having an honest discussion

 

[StarShooter80]

Goku ki spams all the time.

Give me 3, non-anime, manga-only examples, of Goku ki spamming up until the bog arc

And again he more often uses charged attacks at a distance which is more effective in this case anyways

 

[YuseiDragon1]

Well, the fact that his most iconic technique is a long ranged attack also adds to this.

The fact is, Goku just outskills, can predict his opponent's moves and alongside Vegeta, when the foe is too dangerous to fight head on, usually rely on long range attacks. (Broly Super Movie)

Anywho, you do know radiation does not kill you instantly, right? Even if they die of cancer later on, Goku would be the winner.
(and he already resists upper atmosphere radiation, so he is enduring long enough to get the win and live long enough for the W to count as a W)

 

[Arkansalter2]

Anywho, you do know radiation does not kill you instantly, right?

Extremely high doses of radiation does.

And again he more often uses charged attacks at a distance which is more effective in this case anyways

Not something Zill has't dealt with prior.

Why not just start off with that it seems far more useful than the heat generation around him

That can more than likely be a first move with the atomic pulse being a second move.

 

[StarShooter80]

Not something Zill has't dealt with prior.

A guy teleporting from range too long for him and attack him with attacks from there?

That can more than likely be a first move with the atomic pulse being a second move.

I meant as your argument but yeah if it's the more common move

 

[YuseiDragon1]

Yeah cuz we know Zilla just acts optimally all the time but Goku just happen to not.
How convenient argument of yours.