GeneralSol16
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- "Rebirth" and "Sonic Forces - Onwards" are being used.
- Battle takes place in New York
- UNEQUALED speed.
- Both at their 2-C peak, no one can go higher.
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Blue boy:
Wally incons them both:
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Gotta Go Flash
Red boy:
Blue boy:
Wally incons them both:
MrKerf
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Flash starts as MFTL+ while Sonic starts as Infinite, and gap is so large that Flash might as well stand still the entire fight. Sonic blitzes.
That being said, I am not sure if Sonic's "above one-shot of 12 universes" is enough to damage 52 universe Barry, even with boosts. And I don't like the usage of virus or cyber corruption.
So, let's go with Sonic not damaging Flash, who to him stands still, whips out his Standart Equipment Chaos Emeralds, and one-shots Barry with his super form.
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what do you mean one shot
he cant one shot barry because of the 52 universes thing
he cant one shot barry because of the 52 universes thing
MrKerf
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Am I wrong in fact that Super Sonic at his 1-C can one-shot 2-C?
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The **** you mean 52 universes Barry you all?
It is written "up to 2-C" cuz Flash if he doesn't focus at all is glass-canon.
It is written "up to 2-C" cuz Flash if he doesn't focus at all is glass-canon.
Pretty sure all of them outdated after several revisions nglDC profile finally not outdated?
MrKerf
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It doesn't matter. Sonic always has Chaos Emeralds, and those always grant him his transformation.
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Would rebirth include the Deep Change stuff?
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Yes , but thats enviromental destruction
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Then speed should be equal, stats go to sonic and flash takes haxes imo
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As I doubt sonic would go super straight away lol
AyOgUyS
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Buddy what? Sonic has to go look for the Emeralds because they're scattered all over the planet, that's like what happens in 99% of games
MrKerf
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Why are you arguing with ME XD Just look at Sonic's page under Standard Equipment.
AyOgUyS
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well that should be removed
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Guess he had to go looking in Frontiers, huh...?
GeneralSol16
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Barry's 2-C key means he's going at his peak, which also means he's going at imme speeds by how his powers work.DC profile finally not outdated?
Flash starts as MFTL+ while Sonic starts as Infinite, and gap is so large that Flash might as well stand still the entire fight. Sonic blitzes.
That being said, I am not sure if Sonic's "above one-shot of 12 universes" is enough to damage 52 universe Barry, even with boosts. And I don't like the usage of virus or cyber corruption.
So, let's go with Sonic not damaging Flash, who to him stands still, whips out his Standart Equipment Chaos Emeralds, and one-shots Barry with his super form.
GeneralSol16
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Yeah, I've edited it so is as clear as possible.
AyOgUyS
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speaking of Frontiers, the end is lowkenuinely 1-A but y'all ain't ready for that
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AyOgUyS
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that's a low-ball, The End should realistically be High 1-A
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Ah with that clarification I still side Barry
MrKerf
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There we go. Granted, I am not sure SE can be limited, but eh. Who cares.
Now, Sonic still blitzes to no end, but now he realistically can't damage Barry in any way... probably. I assume that Sonic's boosts isn't enough to cover the gap.
Which leaves Metal Virus and Cyber Corruption as his wincons. Both likely work, but both are fairly boring as wincons. And probably not his standard powers...
Question. Does Barry's durability comes from his Speed Force aura he has, or is he just built differently, constructed alternatively?
AyOgUyS
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metal virus isn't applicable and sonic would never ever use cyber corruption like that
MrKerf
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...sure? Maybe? I mean, Immeasurable is >> Infinite, so it becomes a bit of an ass matchup, as Sonic is Immeasurable only when "accelerating through erased time".
SBA is in character but willing to kill, and Metal Virus comes through touch anyway, but I agree about CC. And I wouldn't put it as standard anyway.
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Sonic blitzes Flash to kingdom ******* come but can't damage him.
This the same shit I seen off tiktok.
This the same shit I seen off tiktok.
MrKerf
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Here's the thing:
If we assume that Flash is Immeasurable, then base Sonic is basically frozen in place to him, unless "accelerating through erased time".
If we assume that Flash is MFTL+, then base Sonic is infinite and Flash is basically frozen in place to him.
EVEN IF we equalise speed, Sonic's boosts and passive AD will ensure that he is always way faster.
Funniest shit I have ever seen. Unstoppable force vs Immovable object.
Arkansalter2
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He's only that with the entire speed force. Not otherwise. So yeah, standard mismatch.
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Nobody. They can't do shit to each other.
Inconclusive I suppose.
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But i swear i saw them move yesterday
GeneralSol16
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Should I change it to equal speed so there's no problem with adding this?
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GeneralSol16
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Perhaps changing their versions? New 52 Barry vs Adventure Sonic
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That would be a lot better imo
MrKerf
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Sonic still can boost himself to about 6 times faster, without taking into consideration his passive AD and even rings.
And depending on the version of 4-B used, Sonic is either 30 Foe, 240 Foe with Power Cores (1st key), or 30.8 KiloFoe (2nd key), to Barry's 2747 Foe.
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Vs thread rules imply you can't, but you could just specify the number, the profile doesn't give a set amount.
No it doesn't, the willing to kill bit was cut a while back, reworded to "in character but will attempt to win the battle"
Said AD would allow his versions that are weaker to near instantly catch up in power for a possible match.
AyOgUyS
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Sonic shouldn't have any Standard Equipment except for like Rings and his shoes
MrKerf
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HUH? Well alright then.
Thing is, I am not sure how well it goes with physical stats, outside his speed. The best example we have is him besting Emeryl and his exact copy, in less than a minute. And if we assume that it applies to his strength directly, in the same vain... then oof, this match becomes unfair again. But that's something for people with more knowledge than me to look at.
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