Gotta Go Hero | Sonic The Hedgehog vs Ben Tennyson

[GeneralSol16]

Sonic came from a portal to Ben's Universe, and thinks he's working with Eggman, confusign The Omnitrix with one of his inventions. Ben, of course, won't step back to a fight, especially if one of Animo's experiments tries to destroy Bellwood once again.

• (Pre-Ultimate Emer) Sonic is being used, and Ben has access to all his forms except Alien X and Super Sonic, respectively.
• Both start as 4-B.
• Equalized speed.
• 15m from each other, they fight in an empty Bellwood.

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Incon

 

[Arkansalter2]

Take one good look at the attack potencies and figure out who one shots who.
Bro posted this knowing about the attack potencies.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Take one good look at the attack potencies and figure out who one shots who.
Bro posted this knowing about the attack potencies.

Sonic can amp himself via statics amp and accelerated development, he should be able to at some point keep up with Ben.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Sonic can amp himself via statics amp and accelerated development, he should be able to at some point keep up with Ben.

If he gets touched once, it's GGs.

Bc my brother in christ, that's a 10^16 gap.

 

[GeneralSol16]

If he gets touched once, it's GGs.

Bc my brother in christ, that's a 10^16 gap.

Ehmn, haha.
Ben scales to TeraFoe, not Zettafoe, my bad

 

[Arkansalter2]

Ehmn, haha.
Ben scales to TeraFoe, not Zettafoe, my bad

30 million gap still.

 

[GeneralSol16]

30 million gap still.

So, should I rewrite this and do it with Eggman? He can keep up with the AP gap with Tech and raw numbers, and haa slme 4-A things

 

[Arkansalter2]

and haa slme 4-A things

Waybig.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Waybig.

Eggman's 4-A level scales a little bit higher than Ben's 4-A forms.
So it wouldn't be a mismatch

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Wtf is this match up bro

 

[Omegabronic]

If he gets touched once, it's GGs.

Sonic has a lot of "i statue you" speed amps to be fair, also Rings shield him from up to 1-C levels of Damage

Also he went from 4-B to 4-A Via AD, so he will be able to catch up here very quickly

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Also he went from 4-B to 4-A Via AD, so he will be able to catch up here very quickly

3-C*, but yeah, he'll close the gap quickly

 

[LaserPrecision]

The gap isn't an issue. Sonic will AD to the AP gap in literally less than a second. That's not an exaggeration either. He went from 4-B to 4-A immediately just from being in Ultimate Emerl's presence. Classic Sonic went from 4-C or whatever he's at to 2-C instantly by being in a Modern character's presence. This gap is so infinitesimally small in comparison that it's not at all an issue. Sonic will grow to that level, and then start slowly AD'ing above it.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

The gap isn't an issue. Sonic will AD to the AP gap in literally less than a second. That's not an exaggeration either. He went from 4-B to 4-A immediately just from being in Ultimate Emerl's presence. Classic Sonic went from 4-C or whatever he's at to 2-C

High 5-A (Gens for Classic probably takes place after Sonic Blast given Sonic 4 has him doing the Homing Attack, maybe after 3D Blast but the Blast Attack power-up is nearly identical to the Homing Attack) You could probably argue he gets to High 4-C+ by Sonic the Fighters given the three battles involving the Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald without a Super Form across Sonic Mania to the IDW 30th Anniversary.

 

[Lort15]

Take one good look at the attack potencies and figure out who one shots who.
Bro posted this knowing about the attack potencies.

I mean AP isn't everything in the fights ngl

 

[GeneralSol16]

So now that the AP problem has been solved, what are Sonic's wincons?

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

So now that the AP problem has been solved, what are Sonic's wincons?

Ben 10 stands still /s

 

[GeneralSol16]

Ben 10 stands still /s

What?

 

[Lort15]

Ben 10 stands still /s

wild wincon

 

[OrangeFR]

So now that the AP problem has been solved, what are Sonic's wincons?

BFR via Chaos Control and eventually just being stronger via AD.

 

[Fezzih_007]

So now that the AP problem has been solved, what are Sonic's wincons?

Well, if Sonic wants he can go Super Sonic, gains Infinite speed and 2-C AP, blitz and one-shot Ben.

You din't restricted his Super form, so he stomp Ben at any time.

 

[McFriesGuy075]

BFR isn't in character for Sonic (Though he does use Chaos Control the most in this era. He's also missing his Time Stop ability)

 

[Lort15]

Well, if Sonic wants he can go Super Sonic, gains Infinite speed and 2-C AP, blitz and one-shot Ben.

You din't restricted his Super form, so he stomp Ben at any time.

omnitrix have immeasurable speed failsafe ;-;

 

[Omegabronic]

There is also Ring Time to transmutate Ben into Rings... dunno if the Omnitrix has failsafes for that tho, been a while since i checked that page

 

[Lort15]

There is also Ring Time to transmutate Ben into Rings... dunno if the Omnitrix has failsafes for that tho, been a while since i checked that page

duh omnitrix grants ben resistance to transmutation

 

[Fezzih_007]

omnitrix have immeasurable speed failsafe ;-;

Super Sonic also have immeasurable speed, if he wants trought.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Well, if Sonic wants he can go Super Sonic, gains Infinite speed and 2-C AP, blitz and one-shot Ben.

You din't restricted his Super form, so he stomp Ben at any time.

Everything above Tier 4 that isn't via amps in fights is clearly restricted, lol, didn't think I needed to write it down.

But even then, The Omnitrix saves Ben faster than Sonic himself, turns him to Feedback and sucks Sonic dry.

 

[Lort15]

Super Sonic also have immeasurable speed, if he wants trought.

valid, would his starter move be transforming into super sonic? i mean i feel like this match will happen in an instant like any other matches

EDIT: nvm anything above 4-B is restricted

 

[Fezzih_007]

Everything above Tier 4 that isn't via amps in fights is "clearly" restricted, lol, didn't think I needed to write it down.

You do, you restricted Alien X but not Super Sonic, so I can assume you forgot to restrict SS.
Ok so is restricted let me change gears then.

So now that the AP problem has been solved, what are Sonic's wincons?

I pretty sure he have enough speed amps to run circles and dodge most of Ben aliens, he is more skilled in combat than Ben, so most of the Aliens that don't use hax are gonna be ineffective against Sonic, and some of the Ben Aliens that rely on hax, run the risk that Sonic could resist.

He could probally beat Ben and knock him out with just skill.

But even then, The Omnitrix saves Ben faster than Sonic himself, turns him to Feedback and sucks Sonic dry.

Feedback gonna get blitz by Super Sonic before he can.

 

[OrangeFR]

Wait is Ben in his first or second key?

 

[Lort15]

Wait is Ben in his first or second key?

with the omnitrix key, he has access to his all aliens but Alien x

 

[Omegabronic]

Everything above Tier 4 that isn't via amps in fights is clearly restricted, lol, didn't think I needed to write it down.

But even then, The Omnitrix saves Ben faster than Sonic himself, turns him to Feedback and sucks Sonic dry.

Well, he has the Chaos Emeralds, who just keep producing more energy with his every thought, so like... they'll be in a loop

 

[OrangeFR]

with the omnitrix key, he has access to his all aliens besides Alien x

I’m wanting to know if it is OG series Ben or Alien Force/Omniverse/Ultimate Alien Ben, cuz Ben has the self destruct thing on the Omnitrix that is 2-A

 

[Lort15]

I’m wanting to know if it is OG series Ben or Alien Force/Omniverse/Ultimate Alien Ben, cuz Ben has the self destruct thing on the Omnitrix that is 2-A

oh it's omniverse probably i mean from the picture we got lel

 

[Lort15]

Well, he has the Chaos Emeralds, who just keep producing more energy with his every thought, so like... they'll be in a loop

sad that Clockwork ain't doin nothing here Sonic can comeback from the Clockwork's low complex multiversal bfr so it's useless also timestop won't do much here i guess he has resistance to space-time manipulation (idk if he also has resistance to timestop), Age manipulation could work but Ben isn't a type of guy who would kill others with age manipulation, I see sonic doesn't have NPI to intangibility maybe Ghostfreak might have a wincon here?

 

[LaserPrecision]

I’m wanting to know if it is OG series Ben or Alien Force/Omniverse/Ultimate Alien Ben, cuz Ben has the self destruct thing on the Omnitrix that is 2-A

Tbf, 2-A self-destruct wouldn't matter because Sonic has Rings which can transfer up to 1-C damage. So he'd eat the explosion.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I see sonic doesn't have NPI to intangibility maybe Ghostfreak might have a wincon here?

I believe this key should have NPI. He can touch intangible ghosts, and also intangible shadows. Even if he couldn't, any attacks involving Chaos Energy should due to their nature being more abstract.

 

[Lort15]

Tbf, 2-A self-destruct wouldn't matter because Sonic has Rings which can transfer up to 1-C damage. So he'd eat the explosion.

it's not combat applicable tho Ben needs to charge the omnitrix for several days, and self destruction is actually 1-C likely 1-B not 2-A the omnitrix scan is kinda outdated in ben's profile

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Sonic has NPI for Ghosts and shit from his Classic self

 

[Lort15]

I believe this key should have NPI. He can touch intangible ghosts, and also intangible shadows. Even if he couldn't, any attacks involving Chaos Energy should due to their nature being more abstract.

oh i don't see in the profile, could i see the scan please