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Oooh, that one was mean.Paulo.junior.969 said:or that Naruto is good, for example.
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Oooh, that one was mean.Paulo.junior.969 said:or that Naruto is good, for example.
You can't resist Gravity Manipulation, you can only adapt to it.Paulo.junior.969 said:Resistance to Gravity Manipulation doesnt make so it is impossible to lift your body.
No, it isn't. It's adaption.Paulo.junior.969 said:Yes, you can; Resistance to Gravity Manipulation is a thing, and it does not really make your body any harder to lift, so I really don't know why you're saying it does.
Dude, this IS the argument I am making.Paulo.junior.969 said:One argument you could make is that Grande Padre could overpower Cresselia's Lifting Strength, but they're both unknown, so we can't really tell if that would be possible or not.
No, it isn't, your argument is "he resists one ability, which means he also resists another completely different ability." If you argument was he can break out, you wouldn't have brought up gravity, you would just have said "he can break out", and even then his Lifting Strength is unknown.Warren Valion said:Dude, this IS the argument I am making.
No it is not.Paulo.junior.969 said:No, it isn't, your argument is "he resists one ability, which means he also resists another completely different ability.
It is, you're just backtracking and changing what your point was because you realized your first argument made no sense.Warren Valion said:No it is not.
My argument is that since Dragon Ball is a series where there are plenty of weaker characters than the GP can overcome an oppressive force through their own strength, that Grand Priest is likely able to do the same - except instead of the oppressive force being gravity, it is telekinesis.
In simplest terms, the GP would break out of Cress's TK.
It isn't about superseding an ability, it's about conditioning the body to deal with the stronger forces of gravity pushing against you and living. Said process of conditioning is required, and is why it is an adaption, and not a resistance.Paulo.junior.969 said:Adaptation would be if it works at first, but the person adapts to gain resistance to it later, resistance is when it doesnt work at all. Also, resisting Gravity Manipulation doesn't really have much to do with Lifting Strength, it just has to do with, well, resisting an ability, so you cant really say the character has the power to break out of an ability just because they resist a completely different ability.
No, because Resistance to Gravity Mnipulation doesn't exist in real life. It does in fiction however, that's when the character is not affected by changes in gravity, may it be higher or lower. There's really nothing special about gravity, it can be resisted just like any other ability.Warren Valion said:Do you give military pilots and racecar drivers "Resistance to Gravity Manipulation" because they have conditioned their bodies to experience higher Gs while moving at intense speeds? No, that's ridiculous.
What the **** are talking about?Paulo.junior.969 said:It is, you're just backtracking and changing what your point was because you realized your first argument made no sense.
Anyway: both Cresselia and Grande Padre have unknown Lifting Strength, so we can't really tell if it would be possible for him to break out or not.
Disregard = ignore.Warren Valion said:"And why would the GP just let himself be affected by Telekinesis?
In a verse with gravity training, I am more aligned to believe the GP can just disregard Cresselia's telekinesis."
Are you serious?Paulo.junior.969 said:Disregard = ignore.
If he disregards something, this means he isn't affected by it at all (which would be resistance); your current argument is that he would be affected by it, but that he could overpower it. Being unaffected by something and breaking out of something are two different things.
I read that as "disregard =/= ignore", my apologizes. I'm tired and was about to head to bed, like I said.Paulo.junior.969 said:> Tries to disprove my point.
> Says the exact same thing I'm saying.
Just like you just showed in your comment, disregard means ignore. If he disregards something, this means he isn't affected by it at all, which would be resistance, because if he has to break out, this means he can't just ignore it, he has to consciously break out of it.
Frieza doesn't use telekinesis on stronger opponents. He uses paralysis. I'd have to check Guldo but I gtg for the day so I'll leave that to someone else.The real cal howard said:Guldo and Frieza.
Guldo doesn't used telekinesis against Krillin and Gohan, he stop time. when they was stopped, he use TK to grp a"tree" and throw it at Krilin before getting killed.The real cal howard said:...every character that's offensively used TK in the series like that has succeeded in doing that though. Even when the opponent was stronger (Guldo vs Krillin and Gohan).
Indeed, my bad theThe real cal howard said:What? No, they weren't time stopped. They were clearly conscious when Guldo was gonna throw a tree at them.