Hellsing Additions

[Robo432343]

Alucard's profile:

Regeneration (Up to High Mid; Reattached his arm. Regenerated his head. Regenerated his whole body getting shot until his bones appeared twice)

Regeneration Negation (Up to High Mid; Alucard can use Tulbacain's cards, which can impede his own regenerative abilities. His guns uses holy made bullets which much like Alexander's blades can negate Alucard's regeneration. The Jackal is able to completely negate Alexander's super regenerative abilities, he who was already stated and shown to possess a healing factor capable of healing bullet wounds all over his body and even head)

Poison Manipulation (The rounds from the Jackal features an explosive tip that contains a charge of pre blessed mercury)

Limited Memory Manipulation (Alucard is able to possess the memories of his victims by draining their blood)

Duplication and Shockwave Generation (Can use Tulbacain's cards, which can cause immense shockwaves and create clones)

Explosion Manipulation (Alucard's guns have explosive properties)

Surface Scaling (Alucard, during his fight with Tubalcain, is shown not only to be able to stand vertically on a wall but also run backward up it. This would apply to Seras as a regular Millennium vampire was able to can walk on a vertical wall)

Unconventional resistance to Soul Manipulation (due to possessing thousands of souls)

Resistance to Poison (Survived the Jackal exploding in his hand which contains mercury)

Resistance to Extreme Cold (thanks @Random-Helper323 for pointing this out)

Alucard should have resistance to extreme cold. He flew the jet at an altitude of 85,000 feet with no padding or any sign of discomfort. This would place him in the stratosphere, and the stratosphere has a temperature range which lines up with a calculation of the temperature based on altitude. It would have been about -50°C.

Nonexistent Physiology (Post Schrodinger): (After absorbing Schrodinger, Alucard exists everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Due to the nature of Alucard's paradoxical existence he can selectively choose whether or not he is to exist everywhere or nowhere)


Tubalcain's profile:

Telekinesis (Can telekinetically control his cards, allowing them to change trajectory mid flight to hit moving targets)

Attack reflection (Can deflect attacks by spinning his playing cards in a circle around his body)

Duplication (Dissolved into a flurry of playing cards before reappearing somewhere else, fully healed to distract Alucard)

Regeneration Negation (High Mid; Tubalcain's Playing Cards possesses an anti-healing factor effect where regenerative prospects are negated once upon making contact with a supernatural target. Negated Alucard's regeneration)

Shockwave Generation: Tubalcain's cards can create immense shockwaves

Explosion Manipulation: Creates a flurry of playing cards which explode

Surface Scaling (Tubalcain appeared to be capable of defying gravity, enabling him to leap a great height and walk up vertical surfaces with ease)


Possible CM 3 Addition
Blood is the Existence/Essence of a person
Blood contains the entire existence/essence of a person.

Blood is the currency of the soul, the coinage of life. No more than a vehicle in the traffic of life. To suck blood is to make the whole existence of a life one's own.

Regarding essence, by draining a person of their blood, it allows them to assimilate their existence/essence into their very own.

Blood Operates on an Abstract Level
Later in the series Schrodinger fuses his blood with Alucard's. Just from blood, The major stated that Alucard absorbed the entire life of Schrodinger. He states that what you see is nothing more than his assimilation with the nature of that life. Alucard became nothing more than a cluster of imaginary numbers after absorbing the blood of Schrodinger. Because he absorbed Schrodinger's abstract and paradoxical nature, he exists everywhere and nowhere. It's clear that drinking blood results in embodying their very nature and not just being able to use abilities. Also shown visually:

Blood Contains the Body, Mind and Soul
Humans are beings of soul, mind and will and blood is stated to be the currency of the soul, the money of the soul, the currency of life. Alucard uses blood as the currency of the soul. This is further shown when true vampire Seras drinks blood for the very first time and as a result, Zorin was not able to mind hax her anymore because she absorbed the 'memories' and the 'spirit' of the person she drank blood from. The memories and the spirit blended together. When Alucard absorbed Tubalcain's blood, he was able to possess his memories and knowledge about Millenium. So it's clear that blood contains the body, mind and soul of a person.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I'd say the anti-regeneration isn't certain, given that the Jackal was specifically altered with the mercury tips for Anderson's regeneration. I'd expect the poison was what stopped Anderson healing.

Alucard should also have resistance to poison for the fact the Jackal exploded in his hand.

Also, vampires have Surface Scaling. Tubalcain, Alucard and a Millennium vampire all walk along a vertical wall at different times.

 

[Robo432343]

I'd say the anti-regeneration isn't certain, given that the Jackal was specifically altered with the mercury tips for Anderson's regeneration. I'd expect the poison was what stopped Anderson healing.

True but the Jackal is an effective anti - freak combat weapon in general

A 13mm handgun developed by the Order of Royal Protestant Knights for use against anti-Midian combat. After Alucard's battle with Anderson, it became his primary weapon, replacing Hellsing's modified .454 Casull that he had been using until then. It is 39cm long, weighs 16kg, has a capacity of six customized 13mm armor-piercing explosive rounds, with the casing made out of pure Macedonium silver, and the tip is a pre-blessed mercury, making it a true weapon to be used against monsters.

The 13mm Anti-Freak Combat Pistol "Jackal." Unlike to the modified .454 Casull you've been using, it uses a new type of custom rounds.

The Casull was also described like this and the Jackal is more powerful than it

There's no freak around who can eat these and come back for seconds

 

[Arkenis]

I think cm3 is fine. the Cat stuff is the best example and I'd even say that's cm2

 

[Arkenis]

would you say blood in general is CM3 or just schrodinger alucard

Just cat. Blood just sounds like nice blood descriptions

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

I will only agree to this if you change your pfp back to Alucard

 

[Popbum]

Agree. I think high mid regen is correct looking at the examples of other characters with it and would and the panel for explosion manipulation for tubalcain would that be Danmaku or nah?

 

[Robo432343]

Agree. I think high mid regen is correct looking at the examples of other characters with it and would and the panel for explosion manipulation for tubalcain would that be Danmaku or nah?

Alucard's regen is weird because the guidebook implies that he needs to sacrifice a soul every time his head or heart is destroyed but we see him regenerating from stuff like this

its more homing attack than Danmaku

 

[Crabwhale]

I don't really follow on the Info Manip here. I don't think that's relevant.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Hey, Alucard should also have resistance to the poison since the Jackal and its bullets blew up in his hand and he was fine. He definitely would have gotten the mercury in his blood there.

 

[Robo432343]

Hey, Alucard should also have resistance to the poison since the Jackal and its bullets blew up in his hand and he was fine. He definitely would have gotten the mercury in his blood there.

Yes im trying to find the scan for it

 

[Robo432343]

I don't really follow on the Info Manip here. I don't think that's relevant.

Would memory manip fit better?

 

[Crabwhale]

Yer. Maybe limited though, since he can't really do anything else besides eat someone and gain the memories, as far as we know.

 

[Robo432343]

Alucard was described as having a powerful chi. Does that give anything?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Alucard was described as having a powerful chi. Does that give anything?

We already know they can sense each other. I do suspect that vampiric power is some kind of shared energy system, leaving aside the blood thing from before. Given how Tubalcain and Rip control their weapons telekinetically and Tubalcain evidently hit as hard whether wielding them that way or by hand. I do suspect the weapons are extensions of themselves though.

 

[Robo432343]

i guess we can give Luke extrasensory perception
also i found the scan of al resisting the poison

 

[Random-Helper323]

i guess we can give Luke extrasensory perception

Rip also has it, and so does Alucard.

also i found the scan of al resisting the poison

Good stuff. We just need the sign of the Jackal exploding in his hand and his shredded hand, and reminder than Jackal bullets are full of mercury.

 

[Robo432343]

Rip also has it, and so does Alucard.

Good stuff. We just need the sign of the Jackal exploding in his hand and his shredded hand, and reminder than Jackal bullets are full of mercury.

This one right?

would you agree the Jackal has its own anti regen apart from the mercury stuff

 

[Random-Helper323]

This one right?

That's the scene.

would you agree the Jackal has its own anti regen apart from the mercury stuff

I'm not sure. Walter doesn't describe what it is that makes it suited for Anderson. It and the Casull both have explosive silver bullets, both are blessed. The stated differences are the calibre and the mercury.

 

[Deceived3596]

I can see the argument for Type 3 Conceptual Manipulation. I wasn't super convinced by most of the evidence - I think it mostly shows a connection with Blood and other attributes like memories or a Soul component. But, the fact Alucard assimilated the "nature" of the Cat dude, and proceeded to have his nature of a physical entity changed into a immaterial entity of "imaginary numbers" is convincing evidence, I believe. That indicates to me the word "nature" is being utilized in a Metaphysically-applicable way, as Alucard seemingly had his Ontology transfigured after assimilating the Cat dude.

So I would be fine with Type 3 Conceptual Manipulation for Alucard. I don't think I agree with Type 2. It's not like he is assimilating the Universal notion of "imaginary numbers" or anything like that. It's just that the Cat dude is Omnipresent - the spatial location of things are wholly irrelevant to Concepts.

Type 2 Concepts are Universal in the sense of providing attributes and descriptions of everything that falls under the influence of them. If there is evidence of the Cat dude being the Universal conception of imaginary numbers, I could see the argument. But until that is provided, I would disagree with Type 2.

 

[Crabwhale]

Thing is, Alucard has also eaten other Millennium agents with special abilities, like Tubalcain and Rip. The familiars he summoned them as later still retained these abilities. You could make an argument that although Schrodinger doesn't appear as a summoned familiar, Alucard is simply making use of his ability rather than absorbing it for himself.

 

[Robo432343]

I can see the argument for Type 3 Conceptual Manipulation. I wasn't super convinced by most of the evidence - I think it mostly shows a connection with Blood and other attributes like memories or a Soul component. But, the fact Alucard assimilated the "nature" of the Cat dude, and proceeded to have his nature of a physical entity changed into a immaterial entity of "imaginary numbers" is convincing evidence, I believe. That indicates to me the word "nature" is being utilized in a Metaphysically-applicable way, as Alucard seemingly had his Ontology transfigured after assimilating the Cat dude.

So I would be fine with Type 3 Conceptual Manipulation for Alucard. I don't think I agree with Type 2. It's not like he is assimilating the Universal notion of "imaginary numbers" or anything like that. It's just that the Cat dude is Omnipresent - the spatial location of things are wholly irrelevant to Concepts.

Yes, that's why i think Alucard didn't only gain the cats powers. He quite literally absorbed the cats abstract nature like the major stated, a being whose composed entirely of his own thoughts and perceptions. We see Alucard getting erased from existence because he was unable to perceive himself as a singular being. Found some more info about the cat:

That said, he possesses the contradictory nature of a “life” that can anchor itself in opposing states—existence and nothingness, life and death—depending on perception.
According to the Major, he is a self-observing “Schrödinger's cat,” He was kept in reserve as the ultimate weapon against Alucard. His personality is innocent and carefree, interacting innocently with friend and foe alike. However, due to his cat ears, the fundamentally solitary Captain seems uncomfortable around him. Within the Final Battalion, he is the only one tacitly permitted to address the Major in a familiar tone. After reporting Zorin's death, his words—“You're a cruel person, you are”—revealed a calm, detached perspective that belied his vibrant, energetic appearance.

 

[Popbum]

Alucard's regen is weird because the guidebook implies that he needs to sacrifice a soul every time his head or heart is destroyed but we see him regenerating from stuff like this

its more homing attack than Danmaku

Ahh okay.

 

[Arsuzz]

Looks pretty good

 

[Udlmaster]

I can't check any of the image links as I'm in a country that's trash and Imgur decided not to capitulate to headass laws.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

I can't check any of the image links as I'm in a country that's trash and Imgur decided not to capitulate to headass laws.

BRITISH

 

[Crabwhale]

Nobody bothered to reply to my reply, oki

I can't check any of the image links as I'm in a country that's trash and Imgur decided not to capitulate to headass laws.

Also laugh at this user.

 

[Udlmaster]

Also laugh at this user.

It's not my fault the headass government is being headasses, I didn't even vote for them neither. Shackled by reactionaries as usual. SMH.

 

[Robo432343]

I'll try to replace the imgur links

 

[Random-Helper323]

Thing is, Alucard has also eaten other Millennium agents with special abilities, like Tubalcain and Rip. The familiars he summoned them as later still retained these abilities. You could make an argument that although Schrodinger doesn't appear as a summoned familiar, Alucard is simply making use of his ability rather than absorbing it for himself.

There's a statement from Alucard at the end that needs to be clarified, I think. When he describes killing his soul stock, he says that only one soul was left at the end, specifically describing how he killed his lives over and over until he only had one. What I'm not sure on is whether this refers to Schrodinger's soul or Alucard's own. If it's Schrodinger, that means he's only got one familiar now: Schrodinger. If it's himself, that means he himself has taken on Schrodinger's nature and he has no familiars.

The arguments for it being his own are basically that the Major describes how Schrodinger couldn't exist if he couldn't identify himself, and this would make it questionable if he could still do so while absorbed into Alucard. Also narratively, I think the idea here is that Alucard has left his past behind, symbolised by his removal of his soul stock and the fact he no longer needs one, literally evolved past the need for it.

The argument for it being Schrodinger's soul is the simple fact that we don't have solid proof Alucard can retain the unique abilities after losing the familiar the abilities belong to. We do however know that the power boost that made him strong came from having familiars and yet he retained that strength without them.

 

[Robo432343]

There's a statement from Alucard at the end that needs to be clarified, I think. When he describes killing his soul stock, he says that only one soul was left at the end, specifically describing how he killed his lives over and over until he only had one. What I'm not sure on is whether this refers to Schrodinger's soul or Alucard's own. If it's Schrodinger, that means he's only got one familiar now: Schrodinger. If it's himself, that means he himself has taken on Schrodinger's nature and he has no familiars.

The arguments for it being his own are basically that the Major describes how Schrodinger couldn't exist if he couldn't identify himself, and this would make it questionable if he could still do so while absorbed into Alucard. Also narratively, I think the idea here is that Alucard has left his past behind, symbolised by his removal of his soul stock and the fact he no longer needs one, literally evolved past the need for it.

The argument for it being Schrodinger's soul is the simple fact that we don't have solid proof Alucard can retain the unique abilities after losing the familiar the abilities belong to. We do however know that the power boost that made him strong came from having familiars and yet he retained that strength without them.

Now i'm wondering why Alucard didn't kill Schrodinger's soul

 

[Random-Helper323]

Now i'm wondering why Alucard didn't kill Schrodinger's soul

Literally the question is whether he did or didn't. Although, if he could kill his own familiars, it could be possible for him to kill off Schrodinger after he ate him but before he disappeared.

 

[Popbum]

Maybe he views schrodinger and himself as one, since it’s all based on perception of one self. Or could just be a plot hole.

 

[Robo432343]

i don't get why we downgraded alucards regen to low mid when we've seen him regenerate his head even without any of his souls
also yeah im pretty thats alucards soul but shcrodingers essence

 

[Crabwhale]

There's a statement from Alucard at the end that needs to be clarified, I think. When he describes killing his soul stock, he says that only one soul was left at the end, specifically describing how he killed his lives over and over until he only had one. What I'm not sure on is whether this refers to Schrodinger's soul or Alucard's own. If it's Schrodinger, that means he's only got one familiar now: Schrodinger. If it's himself, that means he himself has taken on Schrodinger's nature and he has no familiars.

The arguments for it being his own are basically that the Major describes how Schrodinger couldn't exist if he couldn't identify himself, and this would make it questionable if he could still do so while absorbed into Alucard. Also narratively, I think the idea here is that Alucard has left his past behind, symbolised by his removal of his soul stock and the fact he no longer needs one, literally evolved past the need for it.

The argument for it being Schrodinger's soul is the simple fact that we don't have solid proof Alucard can retain the unique abilities after losing the familiar the abilities belong to. We do however know that the power boost that made him strong came from having familiars and yet he retained that strength without them.

 

[Crabwhale]

I really have no idea why a verse this small and relatively not that strong takes this much pain to get through a CRT lol

 

[Robo432343]

getting a staff member to comment on any CRT is becoming more and more difficult in general
(unless the person making the CRT is a mod or admin )

 

[Nierre]

Can't comment on CM ATM, but what Deceived says sounds reasonable to me. The rest of the OP is good as well

 

[Deceived3596]

"A thread without aura is no thread at all, and isn't worthy of commentary" - Socrates

 

[Random-Helper323]

Alucard should also have resistance to poison for the fact the Jackal exploded in his hand.

Also, vampires have Surface Scaling. Tubalcain, Alucard and a Millennium vampire all walk along a vertical wall at different times.

^^ Don't forget these.