Hero of Lore (DF) vs Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel)

[DnW0]

Post-Life in the Royal Capital Arc Rimuru vs Book 1 Hero

Speed Equalized & Fight takes place @ Tianzi Mountains

Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel): 0

Hero of Lore (Dragon Fable): 0

Inconclusive: 1

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What does Hero start with?

 

[DnW0]

Anything

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Uh... anything??

 

[DnW0]

Uh... anything??

It's an RPG character.

Although I could limit World Destroyer

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I mean yeah, but I haven't seen arguments like that used on Cloud, Joker, and many more. I doubt he starts using anything in his arsenal.

 

[DnW0]

I mean yeah, but I haven't seen arguments like that used on Cloud, Joker, and many more. I doubt he starts using anything in his arsenal.

Nothing prevents him from leading with any attack with any equipment. The only things that are limited are combos (which hardly change anything), World Destroyer (Either is pre-summoned or never summoned), Ultimate Bacon Orb (Can't lead with), and the fact that attacks have cooldowns and some can't be spammed (hardly matters since he has enough of them throughout all classes).

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

He can start with everything, but will he?

 

[DnW0]

Yeah? Player's choice

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Player?? This is a VSB.

 

[DnW0]

so? Hero is a playable character, thus "whatever he leads with" is not at all influenced by emotions or preference and everything that can be done at first strike has a equal chance of happening as with everything else.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

If hes an RPG character he indeed can start with anything

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I mean, alrighty.

Rimuru starts with Coercion, which is a mix of Fear, Empathic, and Sleep Manipulation, and Info Analysis.

 

[DnW0]

Hero has passive fear aura, and can put Rimuru to sleep with Dark Dreams but I'm not to judge wincon

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Rimuru resists mindhax, and resists sleep manipulation. Question is, does Hero resist that?

 

[DnW0]

Resists Fear, does not resist Sleep or Empathic

although it can be circumvented by turning into a robot or elemental

Mindhax is a big whoop though because the Hero is able to casually wear DoomKnight Armor with no problem whereas Vale instantly went crazy through. He can also turn into Xa but that hardly matters.

Empathic is also a big whatever to the hero since Greed loves to spam it and Hero just accepts it as is barely affected by it.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Then Rimuru sends him to sleep, then. Because it's pretty much instant once he activates it and covers a pretty big area.

 

[DnW0]

Then Rimuru sends him to sleep, then. Because it's pretty much instant once he activates it and covers a pretty big area.

If it's based on activation, then Hero can stop time and use Temporal Reset in the same instant to circumvent that. Regardless, if it doesn't work he still has to go past Hero's Acausality Type 3, so another version of him can do it.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Like I said, it's instant. He won't have much of a choice in doing so.

 

[DnW0]

Like I said, it's instant. He won't have much of a choice in doing so.

Then another version of him comes in and stops time. Time stop and Temporal Reset is also instant so I don't see why Rimuru's attack is the priority regardless.

Temporal Reset can definitely circumvent it though

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Is that really is first defense? His weakness states his pretty cocky and gullible, and considering he's facing a slime, I don't expect him to see him as much of a threat, especially since he regularly conceals his aura, and doesn't have Info Analysis from what I can tell.

 

[DnW0]

Is that really is first defense? His weakness states his pretty cocky and gullible, and considering he's facing a slime, I don't expect him to see him as much of a threat, especially since he regularly conceals his aura, and doesn't have Info Analysis from what I can tell.

"Cocky and gullible" is outside of fighting within the storyline when he does dumb stuff like assuming the runix cube would help him defeat Escherio only to realize that it's exactly what he needs to complete his plans. So it's essentially vsbattle inapplicable and I didn't write it on the profile anyways.

Fighting master swordsmen, geniuses like Warlic are no problem and there is nothing about personality that influences how Hero fights.

Hero isn't going to outright stupid and allow something to overtake him even though he knows that he has the perfect defense.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Doesn't state that in the profile.

 

[DnW0]

Doesn't state that in the profile.

There also isn't "emotions" and "cockiness" in RPG character battles. Name an instance where the Hero screwed up himself from cockiness in battle.

Rimuru has no defense against Time Stop and nothing to bypass Temporal Reset and there is all the reasons for Hero to use those.

Hero also has Acauality Type 3 so another version of him can do it anyways.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I'm aware he has no way around that. What other wincon does he have?

 

[DnW0]

Not sure.. but given how Rimuru has a crap ton of resistance... probably only time stuff.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

So... incon?

 

[DnW0]

I can add your vote as incon but I can't vote on my own thread. so k

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Wait, one more thing. Does Hero have any way past passive radiation manipulation?

 

[DnW0]

Wait, one more thing. Does Hero have any way past passive radiation manipulation?

Theoretically no, but Radiation Manipulation usually is something that acts gradually unless Rimuru has some form of insta-cancer or death beam.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

It induces death to humans in high concentration.

 

[DnW0]

Calling the Hero a human is iffy but fine by me. If it's a targeted ability he can make him "hit nothing" with the Reflections of Nothing ability on Avatar of Time class.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Nope, just a passive aura.

 

[DnW0]

In "high concentration" though, so is it insta-death or gradual?

Can be circumvented in the same was as previously, or if that doesn't work he can turn into a robot. Hero can use energy shields which could block light attacks and most radiation is light. If that isn't fast enough then Acausality Type 3

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

It's likely instant-death.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Bump.