Hey ois, we might have ****** up (Hazbin tiering revision again)

[DaReaperMan]

You remember that 1.7 Yottaton feat Reddit is mad about? I got misinformed, it's actually 1743.06 Yottatons, a 1000x increase. Which means I need to do math again, but scaling to this has already been debated and accepted, I just need to change the values... Oh, and thank you to Mammoth-North-9380 on Reddit for originally posting this which brought it to my attention. This is ******* funny.

Spoiler: The new division

Yeah it's basically adding a ******' zero to the previous calcs but still need to do this.

1743.06 ÷ 14 = 124.5 Yottatons (5-A)
1743.06 ÷ 1852.82 = 0.9407 or 940.7 Zettatons (5-B)

Lucifer time now, since one of his scalings is directly to the damn feat,
1743.06 ÷ 40.46 = 43.08 Yottatons.

Spoiler: On "Higher" and "far higher" and "At least"

They do not exist for the high tiers anymore. At all. This blast was literally going to kill them or is eventually exhausted them. Dividing that shit by 14 was the bare minimum. NOBODY gets any of these three anymore. Not Alastor, not Vox not Charlie, not anyone.

Adam and Lucifer do get it though, because both their values are in the 5-A range.

so... gabagool.

 

[ShionAH]

I don’t understand the second section, Agree FRA

 

[DarkLock92]

Everything about this is hilarious
Easy Agree FRA

 

[Alexander]

Agree for the first one, disagree for the second one.
since the thing was going to kill them because it was angelic power (and you know, NOBODY is going to survive to that bullshit that basically nullifies your powers and permanently kills you, nobody is immune to that).
the scaling should still be possible since they scale to the destruction of the weapon that was going using the power of Lucifer, but they obviosly don't scale to the angelic power since, again, NOBODY is resistant to that (except Lucifer who was not going to die from it, but this is more of him being a Seraphim than anything else)

 

[DaReaperMan]

I don’t understand the second section,

What do you think?

Agree for the first one, disagree for the second one.
since the thing was going to kill them because it was angelic power (and you know, NOBODY is going to survive to that bullshit that basically nullifies your powers and permanently kills you, nobody is immune to that).
the scaling should still be possible since they scale to the destruction of the weapon that was going using the power of Lucifer, but they obviosly don't scale to the angelic power since, again, NOBODY is resistant to that (except Lucifer who was not going to die from it, but this is more of him being a Seraphim than anything else)

haha. no.

We are literally scaling to the upper limits right now.

 

[ShionAH]

What do you think?

I am confused, are we removing “far higher” on the profiles? I didn’t even know they had those

 

[DaReaperMan]

I am confused, are we removing “far higher” on the profiles? I didn’t even know they had those

Some used to, I'm just making it official for why it's not there for those.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

argree with the new scaling and the "far higher"s getting removed

 

[Reiner04]

Fine

 

[ShionAH]

Reaper is God Tiers gonna be 5-B possibly 5-A? If so what value would 5-B be in this case? Sorry I didn’t understand that (Is it 940 Zettatons?)

 

[DaReaperMan]

Reaper is God Tiers gonna be 5-B possibly 5-A? If so what value would 5-B be in this case? Sorry I didn’t understand that

No they're going solidly 5-A, possibly higher... Which means I need to change my thing real quick--

 

[Da3ggman]

5-A Hazbin Hotel imma cry

 

[Aolphl]

Agree with the thread

 

[ShionAH]

No they're going solidly 5-A, possibly higher...

overlords and etc. are gonna be 5-B meanwhile Adam and above are gonna be 5-A?

 

[DaReaperMan]

overlords and etc. are gonna be 5-B meanwhile Adam and above are gonna be 5-A?

Everyone but Adam, Transformed Charlie, and Lucifer: 5-B (940.7 Zettatons), possibly 5-A (124.5 Yottatons)

Adam, Transformed Charlie, and Lucifer: 5-A(43.08 Yottatons), possibly higher (1743.06 Yottatons)

For your guy, you can restrict the Higher for matches.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Everyone but Adam, Transformed Charlie, and Lucifer: 5-B (940.7 Zettatons), possibly 5-A (124.5 Yottatons)

Adam, Transformed Charlie, and Lucifer: 5-A(43.08 Yottatons), possibly higher (1743.06 Yottatons)

For your guy, you can restrict the Higher for matches.

You can probably buff Alastor's Cane's Durability up to Adam's level seeing as Adam got pissed off and deliberately overcharged his axe into growing in size before launching a straight up LoZ style sword beam at Alastor and instead of obliterating him it only broke the cane instead. This only scales to the cane though since it's blatantly above Alastor in power.

 

[DaReaperMan]

You can probably buff Alastor's Cane's Durability up to Adam's level seeing as Adam got pissed off and deliberately overcharged his axe into growing in size before launching a straight up LoZ style sword beam at Alastor and instead of obliterating him it only broke the cane instead. This only scales to the cane though since it's blatantly above Alastor in power.

...no.

 

[ShionAH]

You can probably buff Alastor's Cane's Durability up to Adam's level seeing as Adam got pissed off and deliberately overcharged his axe into growing in size before launching a straight up LoZ style sword beam at Alastor and instead of obliterating him it only broke the cane instead. This only scales to the cane though since it's blatantly above Alastor in power.

No lol, it was a shockwave and it cut through the staff which was what Adam seemingly tried to take out anyway

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

...no.

You thought about it for a second though.

 

[DaReaperMan]

You thought about it for a second though.

I really didn't. You don't scale to something that one-shots you.

 

[Mommyleona]

 

[Polastournecis]

Oh great...
Not again🫩

 

[Polastournecis]

No lol, it was a shockwave and it cut through the staff which was what Adam seemingly tried to take out anyway

Not solely the staff btw
The attack scattered away and created two craters while ruining Alastor's outfit a bit

 

[ShionAH]

The attack scattered and created two craters

We don’t really know if those are from the shockwave or previous Axe attacks

while ruining Alastor's outfit a bit

I don’t see it

 

[Polastournecis]

We don’t really know if those are from the shockwave or previous Axe attacks

Yes, but shame on you, i'm not one among the "we" you said

I saw it all. They are different

 

[ShionAH]

You right, I don't know would this scale to the staff that was one shot? It did technically save Alastor

 

[Polastournecis]

You right, I don't know would this scale to the staff that was one shot? It did technically save Alastor

It kinda blocked the attack ig
The staff is a part of his body iirc

 

[DaReaperMan]

You right, I don't know would this scale to the staff that was one shot? It did technically save Alastor

You don't scale to something that one-shots you. If anything, it'd warrant a "Higher with Staff" because it did save him, but it wouldn't be like, scaling to Adam at all.

 

[Comiphorous]

You right, I don't know would this scale to the staff that was one shot? It did technically save Alastor

It saved Alastor as much as an object slowed down a bullet.

 

[Polastournecis]

You don't scale to something that one-shots you. If anything, it'd warrant a "Higher with Staff" because it did save him, but it wouldn't be like, scaling to Adam at all.

Depending on how you define "one-shotting"
It would still just scale, just a downscale
Like, if you were punched by Mike Tyson and survived one hit (not in an ambulance), despite being knocked down, it would say much about your dura

Ig you kinda misunderstood here. Taking someone attack doesn't mean being able to defeat them

 

[DaReaperMan]

Depending on how you define "oneshotting"
It would still just scale, just a downscale
Like, if you were punched by Mike Tyson and survived one hit (not in an ambulance), despite being knocked down, it would say much about your dura

Ig you kinda misunderstood here. Taking someone attack doesn't mean being able to defeat them

If Mike Tyson rips you in half though, that's another story.

 

[Vietthai96]

This is oke i guess

 

[DaReaperMan]

And now we wait for two days to pass!

 

[Polastournecis]

If Mike Tyson rips you in half though, that's another story.

Oh this is a different case, and yeah, that either
Imagine you try to block a bullet with pan, and the bullet immediately pierces through, then **** it, your pan scales to shit

But if you have a stick that is able to block an AoE attack, like a omnidirectional shockwaves that wreck environment but still keeps you intact despite it breaking in half after usage, then, it would downscale to AoE attack (cuz ofc, no second hand for you)

This is more about types of attacks, with one of them only happens in fiction

 

[OiEuSouDuvi]

That's really funny.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

You remember that 1.7 Yottaton feat Reddit is mad about? I got misinformed, it's actually 1743.06 Yottatons, a 1000x increase. Which means I need to do math again, but scaling to this has already been debated and accepted, I just need to change the values... Oh, and thank you to Mammoth-North-9380 on Reddit for originally posting this which brought it to my attention. This is ******* funny.

Spoiler: The new division

Yeah it's basically adding a ******' zero to the previous calcs but still need to do this.

1743.06 ÷ 14 = 124.5 Yottatons (5-A)
1743.06 ÷ 1852.82 = 0.9407 or 940.7 Zettatons (5-B)

Lucifer time now, since one of his scalings is directly to the damn feat,
1743.06 ÷ 40.46 = 43.08 Yottatons.

Spoiler: On "Higher" and "far higher" and "At least"

They do not exist for the high tiers anymore. At all. This blast was literally going to kill them or is eventually exhausted them. Dividing that shit by 14 was the bare minimum. NOBODY gets any of these three anymore. Not Alastor, not Vox not Charlie, not anyone.

Adam and Lucifer do get it though, because both their values are in the 5-A range.

so... gabagool.

Dumb question, wouldn't Emily scale since she tanked a hit, even if she was damaged?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Dumb question, wouldn't Emily scale since she tanked a hit, even if she was damaged?

She literally only was hit indirectly and still had one wing stripped to the ******' bone and currently has a prosthetic. She don't scale to shit

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

She literally only was hit indirectly and still had one wing stripped to the ******' bone and currently has a prosthetic. She don't scale to shit

My memory must be bad then, since I remember her being hit and losing a wing, but I thought it was directly?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Looking at it again, she was hit directly, losing only her feathers on one of her wings (not the wing itself), and it seems like the attack pushed her out of the way.
So I would still say she scales in durability.



1:53

 

[DaReaperMan]

Looking at it again, she was hit directly, losing only her feathers on one of her wings (not the wing itself), and it seems like the attack pushed her out of the way.
So I would still say she scales in durability.

If she was hit directly, Dark, why wasn't it, oh I don't know, her main body STRIPPED TO THE BONE?

Because yes, her wing was bones after her hit. That beam DELETES Emily's flesh.