High 6-A Tournament: Garou vs Pikachu (Anime)

[Madotsuki24]

If Pikachu really does have too high AP, is it possible to make Garou bloodlusted so it's fair?

 

[KGiffoni]

The 35.6 petatons end got accepted, so this is fair again and Pikachu has the AP advantage.

 

[Madotsuki24]

YAY!!!! >W<

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So I vote for Pikachu due to his weirdly versatile attacks and Groudon backing him up with his massive attacks that would be hard to dodge along with the AP advantage.

 

[KGiffoni]

My vote for Garou remains.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Quick question. What is Garou's AP?

 

[KGiffoni]

27 petatons iirc

 

[Madotsuki24]

Quick question. What is Garou's AP?

Enough to defeat Pikachu. Garou has such good technique, have you seen all of his attacks? Also, he has outsmarted even Flashy Flash, one of the strongest S-Class heroes. He is also by far the most durable character in all of OPM, apart from Saitama of course, since he's survived so many punches, consecutive punches and even a serious attack from him. I don't see how Pikachu can win this I'm afraid. Sorry about that.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Their AP is similar....

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Pikachu's bigger ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Phoenks]

My vote for Garou remains

 

[Madotsuki24]

My vote for Garou remains as well.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Garou FRA

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Garou FRA

 

[The_Calaca]

Garou fought monsters larger than him (Orochi), stronger than him (Orochi again), against many opponents at the same time (Royal Ripper-Bug God and the A-B Class heroes).

He lost to Orochi, but that didn't stop him from giving enough of a fight to give Orochi the option to Garou him (mimic his style), and he even deflected attacks from him.

So yeah, he will become strong enough to deal with both Groudon and Pikachu, since he's skilled enough to lolnope them in a fight even if he's weaker. And what's the difference? 35PT to 22PT? That's not too big of a difference at all.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Oh and grace period started an hour ago, so grace period time it is.

 

[SuperAPM]

Keep in mind that WSRSF allowed Garou to deflect dozens of Metal Bats attacks and reflect enough of that back into his chest with enough force to severly harm him. All of which was done at a point in time where MB had grown strong enough to completely one shot Garou with just a single swing of his bat. Suffice to say, a less than 2x difference in AP is hardly going to make much of a difference when he can simply deflect it all away or even reflect it directly back in his opponent.

There's a shit ton of other stuff I'm forgetting, but IMO what's listed above is more than enough to give him the win.

Garou FRA.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

High 6-A is the peak of his evolution. There's no telling that he'll be able to get stronger from there, and if 27 PT is his peak. And again, I can see him beating Pikachu but not Groudon, who's better than him in every category. Stronger, more versatile, and his millions of years experience counters that skill. Besides, attack reflection is being overhyped.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Groudon's a bit too much for him and Pikachu is still there as well attacking him along with Groudon.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah Groudon alone should be enough to win. Pikachu acting as support is just extra. The fact that Garou can't fly means Groudon holds every advantage in the fight, and gets seriously outranked. Pikachu can let loose too with AoE given Groudon's immunity.

 

[Madotsuki24]

More versatile and more experience. Yeah, no. Garou has ways to hit pressure points, he can slice someone to pieces, he can destroy the ground so your movement gets ruined and you can't move properly and he has been training at the dojo by Bang for years, who is S-Class rank 3.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

More experienced than a Eons old Monster that fights another monster that by all rights has every advantage over Groudon and he ties with it all the time. I don't think so.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

>Garou has more versatility than Groudon

He doesnt. Just read his powers section

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

>Destroying the ground

Groudon created the ground. All the ground.

>Pressure points

Tiny mouse and behemoth dinosaur have completely different pressure points than humanoid creatures.

>Slice to pieces

Has an AP disadvantage

>Training

Keep in mind that even without the fact that Groudon has been fighting for literal aeons, Pikachu has been fighting daily since childhood (recent episode on Pikachu's backstory shows that he got partnered with Ash shortly after becoming a Pikachu, and Pichus are just little kids).

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

It's understandable that Pikachu would be less skilled than Garou, but the support from Groudon has both of them ganging up on him while Groudon certainly has more experience than Garou.

 

[Madotsuki24]

>Destroying the ground
Groudon created the ground. All the ground.

>Pressure points

Tiny mouse and behemoth dinosaur have completely different pressure points than humanoid creatures.

>Slice to pieces

Has an AP disadvantage

>Training

Keep in mind that even without the fact that Groudon has been fighting for literal aeons, Pikachu has been fighting daily since childhood (recent episode on Pikachu's backstory shows that he got partnered with Ash shortly after becoming a Pikachu, and Pichus are just little kids).

Are you telling me that Garou's an idiot? Of course he will know that non-humans have different pressure points. Bang, who is basically now a way weaker version than Garou, fought a monster who could only die if the marble got destroyed inside of him and Bang said that even a monkey could figure it out. It doesn't take a genius to know that other species have different pressure points. Also, Garou has been able to slice someone to pieces right after he lost against them before without doing so, so yes, the cutting fist DOES have an AP advantage. And for the backstory, Pikachu was trained BY A LITTLE BOY. Whereas Bang is the most experienced martial arts teacher in the whole OP series, so Garou has better experience. Quality > quantity.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Little boy? The same little boy who impressed, let's count how many one, two, three, four, five, six, seve, eight, nine...nine gods.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Also the same Pikachu that has fought legendary and godlike pokemon that should have way more experience and skill than him and he still wins. (Sometimes.)

 

[Madotsuki24]

Little boy? The same little boy who impressed, let's count how many one, two, three, four, five, six, seve, eight, nine...nine gods.

And is going to get defeated by a Scorbunny in the new anime soon, lol.


All jokes aside, it's not like Garou has fought multiple people at once, anyway. In fact, he did exactly that as soon as he got his monster form, destroying every single S-Class hero at once without even trying.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Destroying every single S class hero on Monster Form is not that impressive since, you know...High 6-A

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

First off, don't quote text walls, you clutter the thread by doing so and it makes scrolling a pain.

Second of all, when did anyone remotely call Garou an idiot? The answer is never, you extrapolated such a thing yourself out of the blue. His implication is that when fighting both of them, he's not going to have the easiest time exploiting pressure points if both of his foes noticeably are of different sizes. That's a legitimate point, not an insult.

What was the difference between the two of them? If it wasn't significant, you're pulling a huge NLF with how this ability would function in the match and recipricating with utter falsehoods.

"Trained by a little boy" Excuse me? That's such a gross understatement, Ash's Pikachu is exceptionally skilled where it is able to pull off things such as countershield on the fly to adapt to opponents, use its own biology and react to attacks even when Ash doesn't give it commands, such as when it used its tail to spring away from Drake's Dragonite's Hyper Beam, and has beaten numerous trainers of exceptional skill like the Battle Frontier who are implied to be on a similar level of the Elite 4, the most skilled trainers in the regio. You're horrendously downplaying Pikachu's skill an attempt to make Garou's look far better without even looking into it. I'm not outright saying Pikachu has the better experience here either, just that the point is erroneous in every aspect.

 

[Madotsuki24]

Also, you mentioned four sinnoh legendaries who are near or are multiverse level. It's not really in character for a 4th dimensional being to be impressed with someone who can't even destroy a planet in the 3rd dimension.

 

[GyroNutz]

Garou at this point has combined dozens of martial arts and merged them into a perfect martial art with no weaknesses (he did this on the fly btw). He reflected a flurry of attacks from Orochi, who is massive, has extremely precise body control and is quite skilled himself. There's more I could mention, but you get the point.

Pikachu's best skill feat is... thunder armour? Counter shield? Aiming for the horn? Garou horribly outclasses Pikachu in skill, not to mention that Pikachu with the blue orb doesn't seem level-headed in the slightest.

Groudon has zero experience fighting someone with actual training. It's battle smart for sure, but it's nothing that Garou can't read.

 

[Inverted_Tempest]

What are you even talking about? You can recognize someone for their skill even if they aren't at your level of AP. It's literally just in comparison to a lot of the other Pokemon in Pikachu's comparable tier, it would've impressed them because it stood out.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I forgot about Thunder armor! If he does that to himself or Groudon then Garou just gets ******.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Considering the buff it gave him and Swellow who before hand couldn't do shit to Lunatone's barrier but with it could smash through it with no difficulty.

 

[KGiffoni]

I'm pretty sure WSRSF can reflect electricity and even if Garou was hit by it he could adapt.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Pikachu has also beaten Machamps and Lucarios, both Pokémon with combat experience on the level of Garou. Pikachu is obviously not as skilled but it's not as far behind as people are saying.

Pretty sure you don't fight someone for millions of years and have your skill remain stagnant...

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It's not hitting Garou with electricity, it's hitting Pikachu and Groudon who then get a Speed and Strength amp. A pretty decent one as well.

 

[KGiffoni]

Little boy? The same little boy who impressed, let's count how many one, two, three, four, five, six, seve, eight, nine...nine gods.

By no way that means said little boy is as skilled as the gods.

By instance, we get impressed by the smartest animals on Earth such as dolphins and crows but we're way smarter than them.