Honkai Impact 3rd Immeasurable LS Downgrade

[Rakih_Elyan]

As we can see, Immeasurable LS (which shouldn't even make sense in the first place) came from Durandal Dorm's scan of Dea Anchora.

Immeasurable (Durandal carries the weight of the Bubble universe and the Ether Anchor since she was 12 years old and it still feels incredibly light for her)

But the English version of Dea Anchora's description doesn't match the Original Chinese version due to the localization.

EN Localization for Dea Anchora

Every now and then, Durandal couldn't help but feel unreal about this golden armor. Carrying the weight of a bubble universe, it feels unbearably light on her.

Original ZHS (Chinese) description

这身金色的铠甲，时而会让幽兰黛尔产生一种不真实的违和感。作为世界泡力量的具现，它虽然有空间概念上的实体，却几乎没有质量，与这身铠甲背后所担负的重量相反，它轻得令人难以承受。

Lit EN Translation

This suit of golden armor would, at times, give Durandal a surreal sense of incongruity. As the manifestation of a Bubble Universe's power, it possessed a tangible form in a spatial sense, yet had almost no mass. In stark contrast to the heavy burdens the armor represented, its lightness was almost unbearable.

Google Translate

This golden armor sometimes makes Durandal feel unreal and out of place. As the embodiment of the power of the world bubble, although it has a spatial entity, it has almost no mass. In contrast to the weight behind this armor, it is so light that it is unbearable.

几乎没有质量 (jīhū méiyǒu zhìliàng) = almost no mass

So, in essence, the Bubble Universe itself has almost no mass. The burden that is referred to in the original is the armor itself.

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TLDR; Downgrade Honkai Impact's Lifting Strength from Immeasurable back to what it was before.

 

[Shiroiyo]

I was re-reading the justifications and it wouldn't make sense as the higher-dimensional part of the bubble was nuked from it by the holy sword, so it looks fine to me. The LS should come back to Multi-stellar from Elysia and Immeasurable for Kiana's HDE ig?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

I was re-reading the justifications and it wouldn't make sense as the higher-dimensional part of the bubble was nuked from it by the holy sword, so it looks fine to me. The LS should come back to Multi-stellar from Elysia and Immeasurable for Kiana's HDE ig?

I think Multi-Stellar should make more sense in my opinion.

HDE doesn't really grant immeasurable LS if I recall.

 

[Theglassman12]

Pretty sure with HDE equating to LS it should be the characters in question lifting the HDE object or person, not just being HDE, though I could be wrong on this.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Pretty sure with HDE equating to LS it should be the characters in question lifting the HDE object or person, not just being HDE, though I could be wrong on this.

Did you agree with the downgrade Glassman?

 

[Theglassman12]

Looks fine to me

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Bump

 

[Qawsedf234]

Pretty sure with HDE equating to LS it should be the characters in question lifting the HDE object or person, not just being HDE, though I could be wrong on this.

You are correct, though if the HDE character is of sufficient size they'd get Immeasurable anyways. Like Gurren Lagann as an example.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

You are correct, though if the HDE character is of sufficient size they'd get Immeasurable anyways. Like Gurren Lagann as an example.

Does finite HDE object have immeasurable weight? Cause thing like world bubble have finite space.

Also, do you agree with this CRT?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Does finite HDE object have immeasurable weight?

The cut if is admittedly arbitrary. Usually it's considered stuff of galactic scale or bigger based on my memory.

For the thread the translation as long as it's accurate, is a pretty solid rebuttal and I agree with the downgrade. So they should return to their previous ratings or the multi-stellar stuff of that was previously accepted.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

The cut if is admittedly arbitrary. Usually it's considered stuff of galactic scale or bigger based on my memory.

Most world bubble have the size of planet tho. So it wouldn't qualify?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Most world bubble have the size of planet tho. So it wouldn't qualify?

Probably not, but like I said its arbitrary.

 

[FinePoint]

We should probably get a translation helper to comment here or otherwise confirm the translation.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Still waiting for @IdiosyncraticLawyer to review the TL.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Bump

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Still waiting for @IdiosyncraticLawyer to review the TL.

Bump

 

[Planck69]

The downgrade makes sense to me, assuming no major issues with the TL.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

The translation seems fine.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

The translation seems fine.

Thank you, now the Lifting Strength can be changed to what it was before.

 

[Vietthai96]

You are correct, though if the HDE character is of sufficient size they'd get Immeasurable anyways. Like Gurren Lagann as an example.

Late on this but no, new standard that if HDE characters can move their own HDE body then they get Immeasurable LS, HDE characters that standstill such as Infinite Zamasu will not get Immeasurable LS, also second case about having HDE but not Immeasurable LS is HDE character but with insignificant sized dimensions, as Ultima said you could get HDE as long as your body possesses more than 3 dimensions, even if they was insignificant in size

 

[Qawsedf234]

new standard that if HDE characters can move their own HDE body then they get Immeasurable LS,

The bodies still have to be large enough to qualify for the rating

Lifting objects wholly superior to 3-dimensional space and thus exceeding basic infinite mass. Those to whom this rating applies might range from characters who can somehow lift entire spacetime continuums to characters who inhabit qualitatively superior levels of existence and thus surpass all dimensioned objects.

In other words you'd still need to prove them lifting beyond infinite mass. Which is why I mentioned something of large-ish size. Like the larger GL forms like TTGL and STTGL.

HDE character but with insignificant sized dimensions

That's..... what I said.

 

[Shiroiyo]

The bodies still have to be large enough to qualify for the rating

In other words you'd still need to prove them lifting beyond infinite mass. Which is why I mentioned something of large-ish size. Like the larger GL forms like TTGL and STTGL.


That's..... what I said.

I don't have much to say in this thread anymore, but Honkai dimensions are accepted as being tier 1 and infinite right now as you can see from the High 1-C and 1-B ratings in the profiles, they are not insignificant.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Honkai dimensions are accepted as being tier 1 and infinite right now as you can see from the High 1-C and 1-B ratings in the profiles, they are not insignificant.

I didn't say they were. I said that for a character with HDE to get Immeasurable they have to be of a certain size or lift a object of a certain size. I never stated HDE in of itself was enough for Immeasurable.

 

[Yanina92]

I agree, is this already accepted or needs more staff?

 

[Vietthai96]

Enough staff agreements to apply, unless of course new issue is brought up

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

I need someone to change it lol

 

[Yanina92]

Enough staff agreements to apply, unless of course new issue is brought up

I need someone to change it lol

I was going to apply it though there is another thread active, still? this thread it's accepted after all...

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

I was going to apply it though there is another thread active, still? this thread it's accepted after all...

Just change it first, no one know if that thread will be accepted

 

[Vietthai96]

what thread??

 

[Yanina92]

Just change it first, no one know if that thread will be accepted

okay I done it

what thread??

this one

 

[Yanina92]

this thread can be closed tho since everything was applied