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I AM IMMORTAL!!!

This is inconclusive because Zamasu can´t hurt Jiren and Jiren can´t kill Zamasu because of that broken regen. Zamasu try´s to do any of his hax, Jiren uses his shield.
 
In the manga, Jiren has a device on his wrist that can shrink his opponents into capsules to capture them. He could use this to defeat Zamasu despite his immortality, but it would have to be against Zamasu after he started multiplying in order to give Zamasu a chance.
 
Oh. Well that's not fair, he can't win in that case. Even if he could exhaust Zamasu of his stamina, he has no way to permanently put him down, so he can just keep resting and regaining stamina before launching another attack, getting stronger each time due to adaptation. It would take multiple encounters, it may even take months, but eventually Zamasu would become stronger.
 
If this was Anime Zamasu....I'd arguably argue Zamasu. Manga Zamasu just keeps making clones and getting bodied however.
 
Wait, can't Jiren deplete Zamasu of all of his stamina and, while he is incapacitated, take the opportunity to get Belmod and Marcarita to seal him up? Beerus and Whis mentioned that they had a sealing technique that could have dealt with Zamasu, and other GoDs and their angels should likely be able to do the same.
 
Umm... I asked a question above. I know Jiren can't kill Zamasu, but as the profile states, the immortality does not give him infinite stamina, so can't he exhaust Zamasu and, while he is incapacitated, contact Belmod and Marcarita to seal him up or something?
 
That would be outside help and would Zamasu even lose that much stamina? Especially when saiyans rapidly get stronger "cough" ToP "cough" and Zamasu's should be a lot better and quicker. There's also the fact that Zamasu can make clones.
 
What if Jiren leads him into space, blows him to pieces, and then throws his remains into a star? He'd still be alive, but he wouldn't be able to regenerate with the star constantly incinerating him. His Regenerationn is not exactly instantaneous, it takes a few seconds as we saw in the manga when Vegeta blew him up, so Jiren could use those seconds to throw the remains into a star. Every time he tried to regenerate, the star would incinerate him, and he'd be stuck there until it went out, by which point Jiren should be long dead from old age.
 
Zamasu is 3-B, a star can't incinerate him that easily and it definitely won't work instantly. Zamasu also has instant transmission so he can teleport out of the sun before it could damage him or he could just blow it up. And nothing's really stopping Zamasu from cloning and getting stronger.
 
No, a star couldn't incinerate him that easily...if he were still in one piece that is. If Jiren blows him to pieces and then throws the little bitty pieces inside the star, that's another story. If you were to throw a 3-B durability character into the sun, it wouldn't work on them, but if you were to cut off one of their hands and throw it into the sun, the hand would be incinerated in most cases. If Zamasu is just a pile of body parts, a star should be able to work. If Zamasu is a pile of body parts, he can't use his ki to enhance his skin until he regenerates, if he can't enhance his skin, it's the same as a DB character getting hit off guard, like when Goku was injured by Sorbet's laser. In this situation, the star should be able to keep his body parts from regenerating. Zamasu may have Mid Godly regen, but he should still regenerate where his body was destroyed. In this case, he would rematerialize back inside the star and get incinerated again. Every time he tried to regenerate, the star would undo his work. He can't teleport until his body is restored, so that wouldn't be an option.
 
Okay, I'll put it to you in DB terms: It is stated on most of the DB profiles that the characters use their ki to strengthen their skin. Whis has stated that when people are not using ki, their bodies are much more easily damaged, which happens when a fighter is hit off guard, like Goku when he was injured by Sorbet's laser. This is how Goku has been hurt by things like rocks being thrown by Krillin. When a fighter isn't using ki, their bodies durability weakens.

If Zamasu is blown to pieces, he shouldn't be able to use his ki until he can regenerate. So during the brief instance between getting blown to bits and regenerating, his scattered parts should be very fragile, just like Buu when he was blown up by Gotenks, during which time, Piccolo was able to destroy some of Buu's scattered bits of flesh, even though Buu was far more powerful than him.
 
Oh I see what you mean but I don't think that can hold Zamasu for too long. His regen is waaay more broken than Buu's and Zamasu is likely to adapt. He's mid godly so he can regenerate from the soul and his soul can't necessarily be affected by the sun so he could just move out the sun and regenerate elsewhere.
 
Well, you need to provide a possible win condition for Jiren, otherwise this comes off as a spite thread. He can't kill or knock Zamasu out, and Standard Battle Assumptions state that unless specified otherwise, Zamasu won't just retreat because Jiren proves too difficult. Jiren should be allowed a win condition by either allowing him to have that thing from the manga that allowed him to shrink and capture opponents, or some other thing. Jiren needs a possible win condition or this isn't a fair match.
 
Incapacitating your opponent counts as a win, and Zamasu can overtax himself by regenerating without recovering stamina, so can't Jiren exhaust all of the clones of stamina and call in Belmod, Marcarita, or Zeno to deal with him while he is incapacitated? It's not really outside help if he has already won through incapacitation.
 
Frieza force soldier 100 said:
Incapacitating your opponent counts as a win, and Zamasu can overtax himself by regenerating without recovering stamina, so can't Jiren exhaust all of the clones of stamina and call in Belmod, Marcarita, or Zeno to deal with him while he is incapacitated? It's not really outside help if he has already won through incapacitation.
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No, thats outside help since they're the ones doing the killing blow
 
Well, anyway, if a victory by knockout through exhausting all of Zamasus stamina is possible, I'll give it to Jiren. Jiren is way stronger and faster. He should be able to blitz Zamasu and easily overpower him. True, he can't kill Zamasu, but he can still make him lose stamina. Jiren was recently shown in the DB Heroes anime to be a better match for Cumber than Vegito Blue with the base Kaioken was, who gave Zamasu trouble without the kaioken, so Jiren in his base state should be far more powerful than Zamasu. Eventually Zamasu would create an army of clones, but once Jiren learned about the immortality and cloning ability, he would focus on exhausting them of stamina and hurting them without cutting up their bodies to tire them out through pain and exhaustion. The clones would give his base state trouble, but once he jumped into his limit breaker form, he could easily overpower them. He has much more stamina, so with his far superior speed and strength, he could easily outlast them. According to powerscaling, in his limit breaker form, Jiren should be unable to be harmed by any of Zamasus attacks. Sure the Zamasus would get stronger the more they got hurt, but considering the power and stamina gap, they would tire out before they got strong enough to defeat him. He would exhaust them of all their stamina, and after he defeated them all and left them on the ground unconscious, he could easily make a call to the Pride Troopers post battle to have Belmod or somebody figure out what to do with the Zamasus afterward. He could stand by and make sure they all stay incapacitated until they could be properly locked up. That last part isn't really outside help since he's already won the battle so much as it is me speculating about the post battle aftermath and how he could make sure that they are locked up after the KO instead of just leaving them unconscious on the ground to wake up later on and continue to wreak havoc throughout the universe after he has left the battlefield.
 
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