I AM LIGHTNING THE RAIN TRANSFORMED

[Ted_Ed]

Raiden vs Gunvolt

Low 7-C Raiden with Access to his Ripper Form vs Gunvolt 2 Gunvolt with access to his anthem.


Imma cut you down to size




Raiden has EMPs and all of his equipment.

speed equal if needed

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Speed equalized is indeed needed. Raiden's only low-end MHS+, GV's Relativistic.

Raiden has more versatility up close, but GV's keepaway game is just too strong. In character, GV's self-Anthem would kick in immediately, and unlike Ripper, it doesn't have a time limit. Also, Prevasion makes it REALLY hard for Raiden to even hit GV unless he was out of EP, and Raiden has no magnetism or water to trigger an overheat with, while his electricity would do negligible damage and keep GV charged up. He has the AP advantage too (15.9 Kilos to Raiden's 14.6).

Voting Gunvolt due to AP and Prevasion.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Raiden has dura negating HF blade tho

 

[Ted_Ed]

it does cut thru molecular bonds, so...

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Still has Prevasion and Electricity Absorption.

 

[SpookyShadow]

If he has all of his equipment then he had Murasama right?

 

[Ted_Ed]

Raiden doesn't really throw that much lightning in his newest form.

I guess RAIDEN could use EMPs and his HF blade to have a wincon against GV.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Revengeance Raiden's attacks are almost all electrically-charged, and GV has proven that electrically-charged objects such as whips can recharge him as well. The EMPs might be able to disrupt GV's EP, but between Split Second and the GV2 suit's anti-magnetic field (thanks, Sidier), it won't last long, and Raiden doesn't have infinity of them. Plus, Raiden still needs to get in close.

 

[Ted_Ed]

Raiden can have infinity of them with certain wigs

 

[SpookyShadow]

MGR Raiden doesn't use electricity anymore, he used in MGS4.

He used it only against Senator when he was swordless.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Okay, noted. I still think GV wins, but it's closer than I thought.

 

[Ted_Ed]

gv 1

raiden 0

 

[SpookyShadow]

If Raiden has Murasama then he just needs to slash few times.

HF Blades have usually greater range than just melee range. They have their own AoE, for example when Raiden's HF Blade didn't even make contact with boxes and they were already turned into shreds.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Also he has Ripper Mode, which makes him 7-C for some time. It gives him advantage, because it also boosts his speed and can do Blade Mode to turn GV into pieces.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Like I said, Ripper isn't infinite, Self-Anthem is. Speed is equalized already.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Speed equalized doesn't prevent speed amps.

Ripper Mode is not infinite indeed. But it can be spammed. Raiden just needs 10/20 seconds at his peak and he can use it again.

 

[Ted_Ed]

Ripper is infinite with certain wigs and items.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Also Raiden has magnetism with Monsoon's Sai.

 

[Ted_Ed]

Gunvolt does get attracted to magnets as seen in GV1 when he is using his flashfield or other electric powers.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Raiden also has electromagnetic grenades.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Okay, yeah, you're right. Retracting my previous vote. Raiden probably has this.

 

[Ted_Ed]

Raiden 1

GV 0

 

[SpookyShadow]

Raiden FRA

 

[Ted_Ed]

RAIDEN 2

GV 0

 

[Ted_Ed]

Now i realize that Blade would have made a better match for Raiden...

But this one is cool too.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Maybe Monsoon vs Blade?

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Blade hasn't been proven to be weak to magnetism, but she also doesn't have Prevasion, so...

 

[Smashtwig]

Let's take this slow. Prevasion turns Gunvolt into specifically electrons. Therefore, the HF Blade cannot cut him up any further, since electrons are elementary particles. Magnetic attacks that work on GV are incredibly specific. Carrera, the magnetic adept, isn't about to even scratch Prevasion with ANY magnetic attack he ever tried, all except for his strongest attack, Quasar Collapse, which, again, was some very specific magnetic attack.

After, Anthem is allowed, so what stops GV from flying away and spamming lightning skills, healing from a safe distance, and outrange the magnetic blades?

I'm in class now but this is what I can put together in 5 minutes

 

[Ted_Ed]

Because Raiden one shots, can throw EMPs, as an infinitne amount of em, Raiden has ways to attack gv from afar.


Also, we never said that he or blade was "weak" to magnetism, but that GV1 shows us that they are attracted to them, which is yet another form Raiden can force GV to get closer.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Uhhh. Raiden can keep him in distance with Monsoon's Sai. Same with the grenades, they just don't let him go away. Also few slashes from Blade Mode is all it takes.

Also Raiden is not stupid to tank all of his attacks. Raiden also can instantly heal using nano-paste, at his peak he has 8 nano-paste.

Also, IIRC Raiden can use Sundowner's shield from Bloodlust.

 

[Ted_Ed]

Not to mention that, if he wanted to, Raiden could just sneak his way around GV.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Remember, this is Self-Anthem, which doesn't give infinite EP. If it was GV2 Prologue Anthem, it'd be a VERY different story.

 

[Ted_Ed]

SELF ANTHEM

 

[Smashtwig]

Oh it's SELF Anthem, well that changes things. Theoretically, GV can continue to spam Prevasion by continously recharging, nothing prevents him from doing that, even HF Blade won't be able to destabilize what essentially is already disordered elementary particles, but it does shrink the electron cloud (possible places of where electrons can be in an atom), however, since GV is pure electrons, I'm not sure if it would work.

Raiden does have the stealthing, I'll give you that, but GV is only attracted by magnetism when he's using the Flashfield specifically, this is pretty much proven except for again, Quasar Collapse. In this situation, GV won't be using his Flashfield at all anyways, or else he's screwed. At the same time, using Flashfield is in character if he manages to get three tags in...

Even if he stalls with Prevasion, Raiden has the Stamina advantage, meaning that GV will get tired first and pretty much lose there

 

[Ted_Ed]

He uses the flashfield to attack when he managed to tag someone, its his main method of attacking, so, if that happens, he could be attracted by Raiden's magnetism and shorten the distance between em

 

[Parzival-Bo]

That attraction would also be consistent, since Carrera's Quasar Collapse pulls in Flashfield FASTER. Basically GV's only safely usable attacks would be Skills.

So that's 3-0 Raiden, if I'm reading this properly.

 

[Smashtwig]

Since Flashfield is in character without an actual Anthem when he gets a Tag in, Raiden kinda got this, though GV would probably try and no use Flashfield when he sees an attack coming, he could still get hit/overheat if he does successfully put it out. And if he does he could escape the magnetism when he realizes that Raiden can use his Flashfield to his own advantage

But that's just to prove that it isn't a stomp, Raiden should get this one.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Yep, that's 3-0 Raiden.

 

[Sixo_Bullets]

Raiden FRA.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

4-0 Raiden.