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So, the arguments are
Vegeta see him as fodder = ki blast
Vegeta see him as threat = ki blast
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Vegeta see him as fodder = ki blast
Vegeta see him as threat = ki blast
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Ichigo vs vegeta
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Weird right? Considering the previous post framed it that Vegeta taking him seriously would go for hth. If both just result in ki blast, what’s the point of this tangent lol?
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Keep in mind Vegeta stopped just taking out fodder with ki blasts or at a range since the Frieza Saga. In the Cell Saga, he fought 19 melee before killing him with a ki blast. In the Buu Saga, he had a scrap with Pui Pui at melee range before killing him with a melee range ki blast. In the DBS anime, he killed Ginyu with a melee range ki blast, similar to Pui Pui. I don't remember if he fought anyone that was fodder to him in the DBS Manga, but I recall him fighting up close more than not.
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Is kinda instant at that point because he upscales from aizen who could arguably instantly soul crush a bunch of hollows
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If it's instant then I think Ichigo stomps
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Hahahahahahahaha, funny but no
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Hahahaha funny but that's not an argument.
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Aizen did crushed humans, and if these ''school kids'' survived, they have spiritual resistances
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Cus his oponents are people that have resistance to soul crush, so bad argument
2nd if u had read bleach u would literaly know that aizen was nerfing himself just to play around with them, he never went serious or anything like that
3rd those school kids are ichigos friend who have some resistance to soul hax, they are not normal humans to begin with
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Implying he would need to be serious to soul crush non combatants lol This just reinforces my stance that RC is pure jokes and the only bad argument here. Moreover, Beerus' soul based attacks is shared between both mediums. However, in manga, it may just be standard, as usage of Hakai was not specified when he threatened to vanquish Freeza's soul. Vegeta has sparred with Beerus numerous of times. Ichigo gets clapped. No two ways about it.
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People he was playing around with and he himself says he is lowering his power
An argument nonetheless, u not liking it does not make it invalid
DB soul hax is literally not that impressive when compared to a verse that deal with everything soul related, also the soul hax of bleach is higher than dbs
So DBS wont be doing anything here soul hax wise
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Bleach soul hax is overrated when Ichibei's endgame Hado was a budget Hakai that deletes souls from the reincarnation cycle. Only Hakai typically transcends timelines in addition with only the time ring preventing it.
Short version. Hakai>anything involving souls in Bleach
Ichigo soul crushes himself like during the Byakuya fight since that's literally his only RC feat lol Vegeta one shots with Hakai or tears apart his Asauchi with Spirit Fission.
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soul hax is treated as potency on this site which bleach scales above the millions around the arrancar arc and each individual soul has a scaling chain and isn't even baseline so no.
are you trolling? this is one of the earliest fights and its because he wasn't able to fully control his bankai against byakuya, his hollow even stated so.
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No one is event talking but hakai...
Also not soul hax but EE
U know that only happened cus he did not know how to use bankai at the time right? This is an ichigo that know how to control and use his powers
Passive(reiatsu crush) >>>>> hakai and SF
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You are if you're comparing soul related abilities? Hakai just trumps Bleach.
Ok show me Ichigo soul crushing someone other than himself. Even characters that have to rely on their physical bodies like the fullbringers will do? Show me him bypassing their living flesh to affect the soul for a instant win. Thanks in advance.
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Lol nope, but thats not relevant to the match, so, no need to argue it here
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Hakai won't work if you get soul crushed.
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Hakai is EE not soul hax, so bad comparison
U are aware that all the people ichigo fights have resistance to being crush? Literaly having a little of spiritual energy on bleach can protect you from people stronger than u deleting you
Tatsuki with just a little spirit energy could hold herself from just dying by being near yammy
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Sadly for you "nope" is not an argument and it is relevant considering Vegeta knows Hakai haha. Move along.
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Also this seems like a stomp for ichigo since he has the passive soul crush, so this can be closed
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''Lol nope'' is in the same league of ''Hakai solos'', why would u expect some kind of ''good argument''?
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erasing spirits, a thing that all quincies can do
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Don't try and get it closed because you're losing now
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That's literaly just EE....
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U the only one arguing for vegeta by arguments that hold no weight, also stomp threads are closed
Dunno how much u know of how stuff work here since u seem to be new here
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Quincies erases spirits they are already in spirit form. Even standard ki blasts can replicate this since Goku warned Vegeta that Kid Boo could still kill him. Sooo
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So what? bruh? affecting an spirit in spirit form is not different than affecting the spirit of an ''alive person''
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I am new hence the name. But Vegeta wins since Ichigo only has one RC feat which worked against him. Vegeta can literally delete or debuff him via ripping apart his Zan spirit
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The point is regular ol ki blasts can replicate what the quincies did. Do you need a scan?
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u-u know vegeta never does spirit fission in character right? he only used it against moro cuz he absolutely had to, he even stated that hax like this he doesn’t like using
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I never argued against it? I said that Hakai is literally what Quincies can do
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Not like it would matter since ichigo has a passive and vegeta does not resist it
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yea, at this point u are just trolling or legit dont know that much about bleach
Also to explain this since u are new here:
Passive abilities >>>> thinking abilities >>> movement
The instant the fight starts vegeta would already be dead cus soul crush is passive and non of what vegeta has is passive nor is he immesurable in speed
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Also can someone count the votes?
(Not like it matters cus stomp and wont be added)
(Not like it matters cus stomp and wont be added)
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