illusion = R>F , higher dimension?

[Blackchocolate77]

Characters who view the universe as an illusion to them, is this R>F or a higher dimension?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

It depends on context tbh.

If there is indications/feats the characters a superior or otherwise above the universe in question then it might qualify them for being higher dimensional otherwise it's just R>F interaction which won't net a tier by itself iirc.

 

[Rikimarox2]

It depends on context tbh.

If there is indications/feats the characters a superior or otherwise above the universe in question then it might qualify them for being higher dimensional otherwise it's just R>F interaction which won't net a tier by itself iirc.

So... One of the characters I want to index has something about this:

So, the entire universe (Which was stated to be infinitely wide) is only a dream of the character. And it was stated that everything about the dream is an illusion, and if the character were to wake up, everything ceases to exist. The concepts, characters, worlds, dimensions, etc... I assume this is Low 1-C (5-D), right?

If so, then gucci. Though, another question that kind of has relation to this: If said universe contains universes inside of it (Which were stated to be timelines, parallel universes, etc...), would it make the universe 5-D since it contains other timelines inside of it? And the character who dreams everything to be 6-D? And what if those universes/timelines also have universes inside of them?

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

would it make the universe 5-D since it contains other timelines inside of it?

If it's get accepted, yeah. It would make the dreamer be 6D for qualitatively superior to 5D structure.

 

[Rikimarox2]

If it's get accepted, yeah. It would make the dreamer be 6D for qualitatively superior to 5D structure.

Nice~ This is looking great.

So, if the universes (that are inside the universe) also have other universes inside of it, will it still only be 5-D? And if there are characters stated to transcend time and space, and that if someone were to check all the universes, they wouldn't be able to find them as they are entirely above all of them and time and space, as well as concepts. But, all of them are still dreams for the main villain. Would this make the cosmology 6-D, with Dreamer being 7-D?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Nice~ This is looking great.

So, if the universes (that are inside the universe) also have other universes inside of it, will it still only be 5-D? And if there are characters stated to transcend time and space, and that if someone were to check all the universes, they wouldn't be able to find them as they are entirely above all of them and time and space, as well as concepts. But, all of them are still dreams for the main villain. Would this make the cosmology 6-D, with Dreamer being 7-D?

Why does the main villain/Dreamer sound like a blind idiot god?

From what I can gather:

*A timeline = 4D
*A universe/the space between timelines = 5D
*The Dream itself/hypothetical Megaverse = 6D
*The Dreamer = 7D

If there's indication of quantitative superiority (which seems to be the case here) then I think the cosmology does qualify for 1-C (Low 1-C/6-D bare minimum imo).

 

[Rikimarox2]

Why does the main villain/Dreamer sound like a blind idiot god?

That's because it is. Dude is literally Azathoth, and there are other outer gods like The Crawling Chaos, Yog, etc... and the dreamer is their father-

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Nice~ This is looking great.

So, if the universes (that are inside the universe) also have other universes inside of it, will it still only be 5-D? And if there are characters stated to transcend time and space, and that if someone were to check all the universes, they wouldn't be able to find them as they are entirely above all of them and time and space, as well as concepts. But, all of them are still dreams for the main villain. Would this make the cosmology 6-D, with Dreamer being 7-D?

This cosmology weirdly mirrored the verse I'm supporting.

Anyhow, there's a standard that speaks of a higher and larger space-time continuum encompassing a smaller continuum, with an even larger continuum encompassing both. I believe this qualify as qualitative superiority, thus making it 6D.

Dreamer then 7D

A: One of the more straightforward ways to qualify for Tier 2 and up through higher dimensions is by affecting whole higher-dimensional universes which can embed the whole of lower-dimensional ones within themselves. For example: A cosmology where the entirety of our 3-dimensional universe is in fact a subset of a much greater 4-dimensional space, or generalizations of this same scenario to higher numbers of dimensions; i.e A cosmology where the four-dimensional spacetime continuum is just the infinitesimal surface of a 5-dimensional object, and etc.

However, vaguer cases where a universe is merely stated to be higher-dimensional while existing in a scaling vacuum with no previously established relationship of superiority towards lower-dimensional ones (or no evidence to infer such a relationship from) should be analysed more carefully. In such cases where information as to their exact nature and scale is scarce, it is preferable that the higher dimensions in question be fully-sized in order to qualify.

Simply containing something doesn't make the container inherently bigger, there need to be some sort of evidence for qualitative superiority.

 

[Ringki_64]

Characters who view the universe as an illusion to them, is this R>F or a higher dimension?

we need more context for "illusion"


and r>f is basically a chr playing author on a verse

he should be basically untouchable by other chrs in the lower plane


lets say a chr can view everything in a form of fiction (like book , video games, scrolls) and can alter it how ever he wants, but is still in the same plane of existence as others then he would not be a r>f chr but rather would just have some haxes like plot manip and reality manip