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Immeasurable speed for time beast, time cycles and celestial sapiens

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Immeasurable speed : (Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed.

Here the time beasts have been shown to physically travel between timelines through the timestream with their raw speed. Which is technically traveling beyond linear time and does qualify for immeasurable speed.
Counter argument :
Rook said that time beats move at ftl so this isn't immeasurable speed.
Answer :
Well the time beasts don't casually travel at such high speeds all time. Just like in other works of fiction the characters don't move at high speeds each and every time they run. For example flash from dcamu has been given massively hypersonic+ speed when running regularly but immeasurable speed at his full potential. And this would make even more sense since there are mftl+ characters like sugilite, aggregor, vilgax, etc in ben 10 who didn't end up traveling through linear time while their flight.
So in conclusion the time beasts have immeasurable speed and celestial sapiens who are the God tier beings shouldn't be inferior to them. Since the celestial sapiens are referred as "omnipotent" within their own verse, they should also be superior to the Omnitrix's reaction speed which has been accepted as immeasurable speed in vsbw



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Flash (DC Animated Movies)

Barry Allen is a forensic scientist for the Central City Police Department and the husband of Iris West-Allen. He is the superhero known as The Flash and is a founding member of the Justice League. After going back in time to save his mother, he realized that he created the Flashpoint Paradox...
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Agree : @OMNIVERSAL-KING @NXCHT.66 @AnimesFreak2 @Gendolfgg1 @zaraus @LuffyRuffy46307


Agree via scaling above the omnitrix : @LordGriffin1000 @E6pire @Accelerated_Evolution @Reiner04 @DonkeySlayer06
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Disagree : @BrackishBrineBroth @Lord_Farquaad69420 @LordGriffin1000 @Swordsaint456

Neutral : @DonkeySlayer06
 
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Agree FRA
Also the FTL statement is only applicable when speed and gravity are in relation (something from relativity) so there is no explanation even needed (time cycles and time beast can straight travel through hypertimestream due to speed so immesurable speed)
Azmuth aka creator of omnitrix himself called Celestialsapiens all powerful and capable to do anything so obviously they can move at least as fast as omnitrix. This would automatically upgrade their reaction speed, also the only type of movement that omnitrix can have is reaction , so it's obvious that it's speed will apply to all movements of Alien X
 
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Reiner04 said:
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Immeasurable speed Alien X and Paradox

Despite Alien X getting upgraded to tier 1-B, his speed is downplayed to MFTL+ for no reason so here are some good arguments for immeasurable speed Alien X. 1)Here professor paradox states that he has spent a dozen lifetime criss crossing the time stream...
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That was for Alien X and paradox , this CrT is for time cycles, time beast and passively for Alien X
 
Reiner04 said:
Time cycle and time beast were brought as arguments for immeasurable speed for AX. If they're not immeasurable speed then Alien X wouldn't either.
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That wasn't part of main CRT but am argument used in replies
Also it wasn't raised too much and was just a message
 
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bro what
DCAU flash does not have immeasurable speed, comic one does

dont use DCAU flash as a comparison
 
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DarkDragonMedeus said:
This looks more like just a regular time travel ability; and doesn't seem to be proof that it's Immeasurable scaling to combat speed or reactions.
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Regular time travel ability would be like entering a portal and going in past right on the next side of it. In the clip shown above, the time beats have been shown to move between timelines with their physical movement i.e., using their raw speed and that's what immesurable travel speed would be. A similar example of DCAMU flash has been given who qualifies for immeasurable speed with the same reasoning.
 
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Hellformer said:
Answer :
Well the time beasts don't casually travel at such high speeds all time. Just like in other works of fiction the characters don't move at high speeds each and every time they run. For example flash from dcamu has been given massively hypersonic+ speed when running regularly but immeasurable speed at his full potential.
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I will not lie, this doesn´t have much to do with the main purpose of the CRT

Hellformer said:
And this would make even more sense since there are mftl+ characters like sugilite, aggregor, vilgax, etc in ben 10 who didn't end up traveling through linear time while their flight.
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MFTL+ starts at 1000x the speed of light and go to any finite number, so this argument doesn´t stands
 
Neutral, leaning towards disagree unless there is a statement that shows it’s speed, since they could only time travel once they used an egg as a powersource
 
Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
is there a statement that FTL is the reason they time travel?
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Not really, rook stated once that they move FTL when they fought with a time beast. But he wasn't time traveling at that time. Since there are other MFTL+ feats in ben 10 which didn't end up doing time travel, hence it shouldn't be concluded that their speed caps at FTL only.
 
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