Individual profiles for Isu

[ArkhamDC06]

I know there's a general profile for TWCB in Assassin's Creed and while i think it's fine, the release of the trailer for the Fate of Atlantis DLC (where people who apparently are Isu too are shown and could be Poseidon, Aphrdoite and Hades) made me think individual profiles for some of them (like Juno for example) could be made since some have specific abilities and stats. We'll have to see what's going to happen but still, think it is possible. Tell me what you think about it.

 

[KLOL506]

I agree with this.

I believe we can go for making profiles once the DLC is complete.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Ok. First part of the DLC will be released tuesday so we'll have to wait until someone finishes it to see if something can be made already.

Also (his not a spoiler, it's noted on their website), Ubisoft confirmed the three people we can see in the trailer are Isu : Persephone, Hades, Poseidon. And apparently we will also encounter Hecate and Hermes.

 

[KLOL506]

Wait, isn't the Staff of Hermes supposed to kill the wielder if they pass it on to their next successor?

Could be that messages were left all around.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Maybe it only affects humans, since Isu naturally have extended longevity, likely to the point of being thousands of years old. Persephone, Hades and Poseidon are apparently still alive during the Peloponesian War and from what we can tell, they're not recordings like Aletheia and look pretty "young" (especially Persephone) so either they use other artifacts or they don't need it to live till this period. They could also use other devices and process.

Aside from that, Hermes could be dead and act like Aletheia. Or it's even possible that the Underworld is some sort of alternate dimension (since they were studying alternate universes in Atlantis) and that they don't age in it.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Besides, the DLC will apparently focus on the relationship between the Misthios and the Staff and we will unlock new powers from it.

 

[KLOL506]

Once the DLC completes, we might need different keys for Kassandra and Layla w/ the Staff of Hermes.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

From what i saw in a video posted by the dev (again not spoilers), we will need it. Seriously, i know i will love it since i'm fascinated by Greek mythology, the Myth of Atlantis and the Isu (wich is probably the part i love the most of the games) but it's not really AC anymore, it's even more mythological than the Pharaohs.

 

[KLOL506]

9-A AC was already pushing it.

Soon we can actually have MCU Cap duke it out with the AC franchise if this keeps going on. (I mean, Ezio vs Post-Crisis Batman was barely fair due to Ezio having an 8-C tank).

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Don't think there will be THAT physical power up (though being 8-C is still possible) but it will for the artifacts.

The real thing will go for the Isu and their possible own powers (i mean without artifacts). Persephone is likely able to generate energy from herself (this power at least coming from her and not a Piece of Eden) and seems to be able to give life to human figures like we see in the trailer (could be some sort of Necromancy or Life Manipulation) though they also could use artifacts. If it it's confirmed, it's even possible that Poseidon will have Water or Earth and Hades Fire or Soul at this point. Though we will to wait for it anyway. Apparently, each part of the DLC will feature a specific Isu (Persephone for part 1, Hades for part 2 and probably Poseidon for part 3 as well as others for each part).

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Also, can't we already make an individual profile for Juno (if w're gonna make these) ? I mean, we already have what's needed and given what happened, i don't think we'll see more of her.

 

[KLOL506]

I suppose so, yes.

The characters are physically 9-A (So high up that they're just about 1.19x away from being physically 8-C) so they could possibly become baseline 8-C if there are better feats to scale to in The Fate of Atlantis since everyone's practically taken hits from a Piece of Eden in one form or another (But that's the highest they'd go unless the bodies of Juno and Charlotte apparently survived Otso Berg's explosion).

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Ok. I can possibly make it but it will take some time to unite everything needed and make the correct statements. Of course, someone else can make it.

Honestly, i wouldn't be shocked if this happens in the DLC. In fact, i'm a little surprised the Olympos subjects and even the Isu aren't 8-C though i understand the calculation. It's likely they will in the FoA. Cerberus could correspond though. At least we'll have our first answers tomorrow (and possibly tonight for some pre-release), Another question (among the others of course) being (if that's really them) how did they survive all the time (besides very high degree of longevity) ?

Frrom what we know, she's definitely dead and Berg completely destroyed her body (and Charlotte's). So, unless there's some cells left or some dust or ashes and the Pieces can bring back someone from that, the Juno part is over.

 

[KLOL506]

Advanced technology. Not the first time they did it.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Possibly. Juno could do stuff like that but only because the Shroud's powers were imbued within is DNA (good job Alvaro). Though it's very possible Isu like Persephone can perform that type of feat by themselves (at least the Energy Projection feat), likely due to the energy in their body. After all, it's the first time we'll see "real" Isu in-game so we'll be surprised.

There will be a pre-release of the DLC tonight on YT by a french guy (i'm from France to) so either i watch it and give informations (with the least possible spoilers i do that) or i wait to play it myself (wich is i would prefer of course but it will take one or two days due to personal stuff).

 

[KLOL506]

The Fate of Atlantis proves the energy thing to be common in all Isu, telekinesis too.

Guys move like the Flash all over the place and shoot energy beams. Not gonna be long before guns become the actual norm.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I saw that. Great upgrade for the Isu. Persephone seems most powerful than regular Isu like Hermes though. And the latter is still alive after all these years wich confirms extreme longevity. Also, upgrade for Hermes Staff and abilities.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Can't wait to see Hades and Poseidon in action.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

SPOILER I finished the DLC on my side. In my ending, Persephone and Hekate end up arguing before Kassandra. Hekate try to prove she's innocent but Persephone doesn't believe her and does...something that makes Hekate only able to tell exactly what she thinks and unable to lie anymore. Now she can only tell the truth. .

 

[KLOL506]

Kassandra might get upped to At least 9-A in her base state, due to possessing higher Isu genes than normal and being a direct descendant of the Isu through Leonidas.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I agree. Though that would mean Alexios could have to since his able to go to toe-to-toe with her and even overpower her.

 

[KLOL506]

Alexios and the rest of the Odyssey characters will scale too. Bayek and Aya would also probably scale, since Aya is Kassandra's descendant and went toe-to-toe with Lucius Septimius and Bayek went toe-to-toe with much stronger apparitions of the Apples of Eden (Actual zombies), with its normal clones being able to damage Altair.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Yep i agree.

For the Isu, apart from Juno and likely Persephone, i think we should still wait for next episodes (when we'll have Cerberus and Hades at least).

 

[KLOL506]

I agree.

Wonder what happened to Hermes tho.

Kass will get upgraded only after the DLC gets finished, once I find more info to look at.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

From what we can see, he is dead. Or very badly wounded (since it wouldn't be very strange for an Isu to survive from that). About him, i have the thought that his super speed feat is his own and other Isu are more likely to be as fast as Kassandra at least but not at this point (it's only my guess huh)..

We have no choice anyway. Each part of the DLC will likely provide new abilities and feats so there will be changes when the Torment of Hades and the Judgement of Atlantis will come out. About that, don't we knwo when the Torment will come out.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

SPOILER I watched other endings for the DLC and i have another feat for Persephone. In one ending, when Adonis tries to make her let him go, she responds by saying Aphrodite knows what he has done in Elysium and wants to do nothing with him anymore. Then her hand starts glwoing and she does something that affect Adonis's face and makes him ugly.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

You'll probably notice it but i made a profile for Persephone since we have enough informations to make it.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

So i saw a walkthrough of The Judgment of Atlantis (couldn't wait) and in the cutescene when SPOILER Poseidon fights both Aita and Junon, he seems to be able to manipulate ice to some extent, apparently generatiing some sort of icy shockwave to push them back. Also, he has Portal Creation.

 

[KLOL506]

I see, and apparently the simulations just so happen to be the memories of Aletheia herself, meaning everything the Isu did in those simulations were real.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Good thing to know i thought. It confirms Isu were more than powerful and that they could basically do most of their artifacts could do. Also i liked the fact we could see Juno and Aita in their "true" form.

I might have missed some abilities though but i only noticed Portal and Ice for Poseidon (in addition of the regular Isu thing i mean).

 

[ArkhamDC06]

So, here are some abilities Poseidon was shown to possess in the JoA (SPOILERS) :

- Portal Creation : Can create a portal with a thought. Did so at the beginning of The Judgment of Atlantis, appearing in the Underworld and helping Kassandra in Atlantis in the same way.

- Sealing : Can seal and open every door and area in Atlantis like the laboratories beneath the city wich he sealed long before Kassandra's arrival.

- Ice Manipulation : Created a shockwave of ice to push back Aita and Juno.

- Usual Isu abilities like Energy Manipulation and Telekinesis.

- I'm not sure about that but as expected, Poseidon's main weapon is the Trident. It's the exact same artifact you can find in the main game, the one that gives Kassandra the ability to breath underwater as long as she has it as a weapon. So can we consider Poseidon has Self-Sustenance Type 1 ? I don't think so (since he apparently never shows this ability) but since he's the owner of the Trident and since it's confirmed to be a true Isu artifact, maybe he could have this via the Trident.

Notable feat : overpowered Aita and Juno at the same time and with ease.