Information manip type 2

[HakutoRei000]

Aether is described as the fundamental essence that creates the concept of "Self." This essence is not merely symbolic, but an actual framework that brings about the very identity of all things. By creating the concept of self, Aether determines both the "who" and the "what" of existence. Every object or being is given form and individuality through three interconnected elements: name, history, and memory. These are not superficial traits, but rather the essential components that construct and maintain existence itself. Without them, something would lack definition, continuity, and even the basis for being recognized as "real." In this sense, Aether functions as the origin of information that allows reality to be understood and sustained.

Does this qualify as Information Type 2 or not?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

yes

 

[Vietthai96]

No, this is Conceptual Manipulation, at best you could also get Info Type 1 if memory is information in the verse

 

[HakutoRei000]

Every object or being is given form and individuality through three interconnected elements: name, history, and memory. These are not superficial traits, but rather the essential components that construct and maintain existence itself. Without them, something would lack definition, continuity, and even the basis for being recognized as "real." In this sense,

Why not Information Type 2? After all, it’s described as the very basis by which something can even have a definition, could you explain why not?

No, this is Conceptual Manipulation, at best you could also get Info Type 1 if memory is information in the verse

And even if its cm, what type of cm?

 

[Vietthai96]

Why not Information Type 2? After all, it’s described as the very basis by which something can even have a definition, could you explain why not?

You need proofs that it is correlate to thing like information, data, program, etc..., also giving things their definition is what concept do most of the time

And even if its cm, what type of cm?

Type 2, 1 if Aether predate, independent from reality

 

[HakutoRei000]

You need proofs that it is correlate to thing like information, data, program, etc..., also giving things their definition is what concept do most of the time


Type 2, 1 if Aether predate, independent from reality

Alr actually there are more but i think next time,

so if Aether is the one creating, encompassing, and essence of the world as a whole? is that enough for type 1?.

 

[Vietthai96]

so if Aether is the one creating, encompassing, and essence of the world as a whole? is that enough for type 1?.

type 2 already universal so, these evidences wouldn't be enough

 

[HakutoRei000]

type 2 already universal so, these evidences wouldn't be enough

how about this?

“Aether create and predate 0 and 1, where 0 is the ‘before’ and 1 is the ‘now.’ Zero is nothing, one is something. All things — laws, abstractions, concepts, existence itself — arise from 0. But 0 has no 1, no beginning, no existence, no end. Aether exists beyond and before even 0, standing above it, having created nothingness while itself lacking both 0 and 1. It exists beyond the notions of existence and non-existence, even beyond the absence of non-existence, yet it created the world, which sprang from 1, which in turn arose from 0.”

 

[Vietthai96]

how about this?

“Aether create and predate 0 and 1, where 0 is the ‘before’ and 1 is the ‘now.’ Zero is nothing, one is something. All things — laws, abstractions, concepts, existence itself — arise from 0. But 0 has no 1, no beginning, no existence, no end. Aether exists beyond and before even 0, standing above it, having created nothingness while itself lacking both 0 and 1. It exists beyond the notions of existence and non-existence, even beyond the absence of non-existence, yet it created the world, which sprang from 1, which in turn arose from 0.”

This is nonduality, the binery term 0 and 1 is used to describe logical duality, this have nothing to do with information, nit even math

 

[HakutoRei000]

wh

This is nonduality, the binery term 0 and 1 is used to describe logical duality, this have nothing to do with information, nit even math

last evidence:
“Aether is the source from which all things arise. It defines and shapes everything, and from it the world itself is formed. Yet it exists both within and beyond the world at the same time. The world is Aether, but Aether is not the world. Every single thing — no matter its shape, color, texture, or state — is Aether. Its force encompasses the boundless world below it. No matter how much the world changes, Aether remains unchanged. But change Aether, and everything beneath it — everywhere, everywhen — is reshaped. It is not only the source of all things, it is the thing itself. Constant and immutable, Aether binds, creates, governs, and defines the world.”

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

wh

last evidence:
“Aether is the source from which all things arise. It defines and shapes everything, and from it the world itself is formed. Yet it exists both within and beyond the world at the same time. The world is Aether, but Aether is not the world. Every single thing — no matter its shape, color, texture, or state — is Aether. Its force encompasses the boundless world below it. No matter how much the world changes, Aether remains unchanged. But change Aether, and everything beneath it — everywhere, everywhen — is reshaped. It is not only the source of all things, it is the thing itself. Constant and immutable, Aether binds, creates, governs, and defines the world.”

Good enough, it proves he is the fundamental whatness that gives everything its character. While everything changes, he is unchangeable and predates everything as well, so he is a type 1 concept.

 

[Vietthai96]

I forgot about CM Type 1 question, lol, all those evaluation request finally catching up to me

Anyway, yeah, it is enough for CM Type 1

 

[Shar122]

wh

last evidence:
“Aether is the source from which all things arise. It defines and shapes everything, and from it the world itself is formed. Yet it exists both within and beyond the world at the same time. The world is Aether, but Aether is not the world. Every single thing — no matter its shape, color, texture, or state — is Aether. Its force encompasses the boundless world below it. No matter how much the world changes, Aether remains unchanged. But change Aether, and everything beneath it — everywhere, everywhen — is reshaped. It is not only the source of all things, it is the thing itself. Constant and immutable, Aether binds, creates, governs, and defines the world.”

Looks blatantly Concept type 1 to me