Is this law manipulation?

[CasperSenar]

Basically a character creates a book that allows death for all beings with their name written of it. If someone were to remove their name from the book, they will become immortal

 

[Vietthai96]

No, this can be achieved my many abilities, not just law hax

 

[CasperSenar]

No, this can be achieved my many abilities, not just law hax

What abilities

 

[CasperSenar]

Bump

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

What abilities

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Manipulation
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Bestowal
Or
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Modification
plus more

 

[CasperSenar]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Manipulation
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Bestowal
Or
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Modification
plus more

Power bestowel and modification seems odd since the Book doesnt really give powers or modify em. The Book exists so all living beings can experience death in the universe but simple death manip works ig

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Power bestowel and modification seems odd since the Book doesnt really give powers or modify em. The Book exists so all living beings can experience death in the universe but simple death manip works ig

but aren't you doing something to one's life/name to grant them power? Which is immortality, meaning Power bestowel..?

Unless you're saying the book of life always existed to begin with meaning they were immortal to begin with and then got death manipulated

 

[CasperSenar]

but aren't you doing something to one's life/name to grant them power? Which is immortality, meaning Power bestowel..?

Immortality could happen but only if you remove your name from it and if you destroy the book, everyone in the universe will become immortal. I was talking what ability should be given to the person who created the book of the death (as by default, death doesn't exists in the world)

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Immortality could happen but only if you remove your name from it and if you destroy the book, everyone in the universe will become immortal. I was talking what ability should be given to the person who created the book of the death (as by default, death doesn't exists in the world)

I see... So yee it would be Death Manipulation or also possibly Life Manipulation depending on the context/ability

That would be the Books ability tho, creating such a book can be very diverse, like:

Power Bestowal

Power Bestowal is the ability to grant other beings or objects new abilities or new forms to their abilities. Note that just because a character can grant a power to another, does not mean that they can grant that same power to themselves. It must be stated that said ability can grant the user...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Adding those abilities into it

 

[Xdsagecat]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Manipulation
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Bestowal
Or
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Modification
plus more

Is death, or really anything ontological, a form of law manipulation since they're the "laws" of what makes 'is' 'is'?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Is death, or really anything ontological, a form of law manipulation since they're the "laws" of what makes 'is' 'is'?

Law manipulation would work if there's proof he created a law/rule for a Book to function like that, the book itself wouldn't really be Law Manipulation

And creating such a book does not need to be Law manipulation, you need more information for things like that. Because adding his own power or just a new power into the book is different from changing and manipulating a Law entirely... For the book or outside of it for the universe

 

[Xdsagecat]

Law manipulation would work if there's proof he created a law/rule for a Book to function like that, the book itself wouldn't really be Law Manipulation

And creating such a book does not need to be Law manipulation, you need more information for things like that. Because adding his own power or just a new power into the book is different from changing and manipulating a Law entirely... For the book or outside of it for the universe

Ah, I'm asking in general, not specifically about the book op brought up

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Ah, I'm asking in general, not specifically about the book op brought up

Oh... then No, since you would only be manipulating said thing instead of the rules themselves of said thing (The "structure" of said thing would still be the same even if you are manipulating it, Law manipulation would basically be changing or manipulating its "structure" rule)

Like they can be created via Law Manipulation but just because you manipulate those things by itself does not make it Law Manipulation (especially without further proof or evidence of that being the case)

 

[Xdsagecat]

Oh... then No, since you would only be manipulating said thing instead of the rules themselves of said thing (The "structure" of said thing would still be the same even if you are manipulating it, Law manipulation would basically be changing or manipulating its "structure" rule)

Like they can be created via Law Manipulation but just because you manipulate those things by itself does not make it Law Manipulation (especially without further proof or evidence of that being the case)

Hmm

I feel like laws are what make up stuff like death itself, so like the concept of death being composed of laws of death

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Hmm

I feel like laws are what make up stuff like death itself, so like the concept of death being composed of laws of death

Yee that’s what I meant with “structure”, for death itself or anything else