Jean Grey (Pre-Retcon) Rework

[RoTt35]

After the split of Jean's profile, her Pre-Retcon version is now very incorrect, incomplete and outdated, so I made a sandbox to replace and update her current profile, that's all

To clarify, the Unknown rating of her second key is just a placeholder until someone can calc Jean destroying Alcatraz at the subatomic level, which may take a very long time

 

[Dalesean027]

Looks good at a glance

 

[Excellence616]

Make sense

 

[Qawsedf234]

To clarify, the Unknown rating of her second key is just a placeholder until someone can calc Jean destroying Alcatraz at the subatomic level, which may take a very long time

Just do what we did with TASM Electro. Link the scene, count how many people Jean killed at once and give it an at least rating.

 

[RoTt35]

Just do what we did with TASM Electro. Link the scene, count how many people Jean killed at once and give it an at least rating.

There's this feat, the problem is that it is difficult to count all the soldiers she killed and the amount change in each scene

Is everything else about the new profile fine?

 

[RoTt35]

Another good feat to calc would be Jean destroying the X-Jet, which is based on a Blackbird, the problem is that the Calculations page doesn't list the subatomic destruction of titanium

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Looking good

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Profile is good

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Another good feat to calc would be Jean destroying the X-Jet, which is based on a Blackbird, the problem is that the Calculations page doesn't list the subatomic destruction of titanium

Would these help to find that?

 

[RoTt35]

Would these help to find that?

I'm trying to calculate it following the instructions of this page but I don't know what the "mass/nucleon number" is, it's the only thing I'm missing

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I'm trying to calculate it following the instructions of this page but I don't know what the "mass/nucleon number" is, it's the only thing I'm missing

Apparently it's this? "the sum of the number of neutrons and protons in an atomic nucleus"

 

[RoTt35]

Never mind, the page uses 1.6022e-13 (1 MeV) for all the elements as the mass/nucleon number, I'm dumb

 

[RoTt35]

I already calculated the subatomic destruction of titanium, now we have to wait for it to be evaluated and, if it is accepted, do the calc for Jean

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Looking at the calc, something seems off compared to the other subatomic calc. 3.79e12 joules is only 8-A whereas the low end for a human’s destruction is High 7-C.

Edit: Did you take into account the mass of the Blackbird? Cuz the calc only seems to be accounting for a single cc of titanium.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Looking at the calc, something seems off compared to the other subatomic calc. 3.79e12 joules is only 8-A whereas the low end for a human’s destruction is High 7-C.

Edit: Did you take into account the mass of the Blackbird? Cuz the calc only seems to be accounting for a single cc of titanium.

He hasn't calc'd the blackbird. He only calc'd the subatomic destruction of titanium to see if he did it right.

Once approved, then he will calc the destruction of the blackbird.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Ah, was wondering why something looked funny lol

 

[RoTt35]

Yeah, if my calc about the subatomic destruction of titanium is accepted then Jean would be High 6-C (125 Gigatons), I already did the calc but I'm waiting for the former to be evaluated and accepted

 

[RoTt35]

The calc was accepted and here's Jean's calc

 

[RoTt35]

Since the only thing left is to wait for the calc to be evaluated, which I hope it doesn't take long, is it fine if I update the profile now with an unknown rating until the calc is evaluated and, if accepted, update it again?

 

[Qawsedf234]

I update the profile now with an unknown rating until the calc is evaluated and, if accepted, update it again?

If the calc is accepted, sure.

 

[RoTt35]

Okay, I'm going to apply all the changes except for the calc until it's evaluated and accepted

 

[RoTt35]

The calc hasn't been evaluated yet, but I have some questions about what this would be:

He attacked the truck directly, but on a subatomic level, refining his perceptions to the point where the world was no longer composed of tangible, readily identifiable objects, but instead flash points of energy, lines of force.

Jean has a similar statement:

Xavier and Jean had long since passed the point of manipulating tangible objects. There were no more walls to see for these two.

And also this:

Inexplicably, she had felt a sudden chill, and reacted with a desire for warmth, drawing in the myriad dots of energy that surrounded her, hoping to draw energy from them to restore herself.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Seems to me like matter-energy conversion stuff. Like really ******* potent matter/energy manip.

 

[RoTt35]

Like really ******* potent matter/energy manip.

Well, Jean also has Quantum Manipulation

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Well, Jean also has Quantum Manipulation

Yeah, but given how without direct mention of matter-energy stuff it's almost never accepted on the wiki, that shit would be broken.

Only other verse I know that has that on wiki is Eragon.

 

[RoTt35]

I guess that would at least give Energy Manipulation to Jean

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Does she ever deconstruct objects into pure energy? Because that would also be another thing that could be calc'd.

 

[RoTt35]

He didn't resist anymore. Charles felt an eerie, almost welcome, calm, and knew that he was shining with light too, by this point, although nowhere near as brilliant as Jean. He also knew that as energy, he could neither be created nor destroyed, although his state might well have changed beyond all recognition.

Although his death is described like this:

And with those words, he cast forth into the heart of her the very best of himself, only a fraction of an unmeasurable pulse of time before she struck what remained of his body with such force that it instantly shattered into less than its component atoms. [...] Of Charles Xavier, there was nothing left but memories.

And the death of Cyclops was like this

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I think Charles' one applies. E=mc² GG

Cyclops is cool, but not enough to say for sure.

 

[RoTt35]

This is fine?

Energy Manipulation (Was making Cyclops and Professor X shine with light to turn them into energy before discorporating them. Can draw the energy that surrounds her to restore herself. Can manipulate beyond tangible objects; stated by Magneto to be able to do anything she can think of, who can manipulate no longer tangible and readily identifiable objects, but instead flash points of energy and lines of force)

Btw, would that allow Jean to interact with intangible beings or just with energy?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

This is fine?

Btw, would that allow Jean to interact with intangible beings or just with energy?

Just with energy

 

[RoTt35]

The calc was accepted and I've already updated Jean's profile. Just one last thing: she should have Perception Manipulation since she can amplify her perception where time loses meaning to her, I don't know how that would translate into speed

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I think that would count as a specific Speed Amp, Perception Speed Amp.

Perception Speed

The timeframe it takes for a character to notice an event or reaction. But crucially, this does not grant any movement; at most, it allows the user to activate a thought-based ability.

Speed: X Speed, higher with Perception Manipulation (Or whatever that ability is called)

 

[RoTt35]

Yes, what I don't know is what specific speed she would have, or if the feat can be calculated. Jean also has another similar feat:

And with those words, he cast forth into the heart of her the very best of himself, only a fraction of an unmeasurable pulse of time before she struck what remained of his body with such force that it instantly shattered into less than its component atoms.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Was everything frozen or just slowed down in her Perception when doing the Perception thing?

 

[RoTt35]

Was everything frozen or just slowed down in her Perception when doing the Perception thing?

In the first or second feat?

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

In the first or second feat?

The first one

 

[RoTt35]

The first one

Here is the whole context, Magneto also has a similar feat where he amplifies his perception

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Here is the whole context,

Fraction of a moment of elapsed objective time - The others (X-Men) reacting to Jean's facial and head movements.

Engrossed for hours (In her own perception) - Jean looking at and studying Storm's rain drop.

Magneto also has a similar feat where he amplifies his perception

Magneto's is him manipulating his perception to where he can see "flash points of energy, lines of force, and atoms"

Basically amping his vision.

 

[RoTt35]

So how could the Jean's feat be calculated?