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-Kaneki vs Garou-
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So how is Kaneki goint to deal with Garou's AD?
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Superior range, initial AP superiority, stabbing and cutting damage, shock waves, constructions and traps, poison and regeneration
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Kaneki initially has x2.58 AP superiority, as well as stabbing attacks, which, as we saw in the battle with the Royal Ripper, were very effective against Garou.
But unlike simple blades, it's a living limb that can get inside and move inside you, bite off pieces of flesh, poison, and talk to distract you.
There's nothing stopping Kaneki from doing the same trick that Furuta did against him.
Due to his increased range, he can set the right pace of combat, and as soon as Garou gets close to him, he will use shock waves if he realizes that he cannot handle melee combat.
But unlike simple blades, it's a living limb that can get inside and move inside you, bite off pieces of flesh, poison, and talk to distract you.
There's nothing stopping Kaneki from doing the same trick that Furuta did against him.
Due to his increased range, he can set the right pace of combat, and as soon as Garou gets close to him, he will use shock waves if he realizes that he cannot handle melee combat.
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2.58x isn't really much for Garou as we've seen him overcome gaps that should be larger than that pretty much all throughout the series.
Royal Ripper caught Garou off guard firstly and then 2v1'd him on top of that. I don't think that's a fair thing to bring up.
What abilities does Kaneki have in his post dragon key that would be a problem?
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You probably misunderstood me.
in2.58x is still an advantage that will be felt when exchanging blows
.I didn't say that Garou is helpless against stabbing attacks. However, he is vulnerable to them.
He has no resistance to this type of damage, and a character with comparable AP was able to inflict a fatal wound on him.
Kaneki's high-Mid regeneration will definitely be a problem, as well as his range of hundreds of meters, shock waves, the ability to inflict serious wounds by touching kagune, and poison.
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Garou needs to get used to tentacle attacks, as we saw in his battle against the Orochi when he missed 1 hit. Only unlike Orochi's tentacle, which left a neat 5 cm diameter hole, kagune would simply destroy a third of Garou's body.
Kagune is also a much more effective weapon because it can freely change its shape.
Kagune's penetrating damage is so dangerous that Kaneki is capable of oneshotting an opponent who physically suppressed him earlier.
Kagune is also a much more effective weapon because it can freely change its shape.
Kagune's penetrating damage is so dangerous that Kaneki is capable of oneshotting an opponent who physically suppressed him earlier.
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Seems like Kaneki's regen is something Garou can't bypass easily
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In Garou's defense, Kaneki's stamina is not infinite, so he won't be able to regenerate forever.
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In Kaneki's profile, his stamina is days long which I doubt the fight would go that long. Garou would get tagged at least once in a session
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He had never fought for several days. Kaneki was able to fight after being tortured for several days, fed to recover, poisoned, and tortured again. He was exhausted mentally, his body was probably at its limit, but this is not the kind of fatigue we are talking about.
Kaneki is able to conduct an active battle, during which he loses limbs many times and immediately regains them.
He should be comparable to Arima and other investigators who stay awake during missions to destroy ghouls, which last several hours, and sometimes about a day.
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Several hours is still more than enough tho considering Kaneki would tag Garou at least once due to his arsenal
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I kinda want to vote for ken kaneki due to the regen, stamina, and extremely flexible weapons. I say he is worse in skill not that he is a bad fighter it's just Garou is Garou. I vote for Kaneki
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I changed Garou's key to Half-Monster and now it's a battle between two REs.
Kaneki also got an upgrade and new abilities, but it doesn't look like all of them will be useful against Garou. Electricity and fire manipulation will be useless against Garou. The doppelgangers didn't show regeneration and were shown as glass cannons, it would be unwise to waste energy creating them. In the end, Kaneki is left with blades, force fields, tentacles, and shockwaves with a range of hundreds of meters.
Kaneki also got an upgrade and new abilities, but it doesn't look like all of them will be useful against Garou. Electricity and fire manipulation will be useless against Garou. The doppelgangers didn't show regeneration and were shown as glass cannons, it would be unwise to waste energy creating them. In the end, Kaneki is left with blades, force fields, tentacles, and shockwaves with a range of hundreds of meters.
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Garou is basically developing resistances to copying everything that Kaneki has.
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It will take some time, and Garou is still vulnerable to penetrating damage. How will it deal with an omnidirectional shock wave?
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It would only take one shockwave to hit him before he develops a resistance to it.
His RE is a crutch for him.
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You basically just made Garou unkillable without Hax lol
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Shockwave is not heat or some unusual ability. This is omnidirectional damage. If he's too strong, he'll kill him.
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In just a couple of minutes, Kaneki becomes strong enough to oneshot someone who has harassed him before. Every time he's on the edge, he gets much stronger. It was enough for the Dragon to destroy his body so that Kaneki could move from the 7-C+ key to the Low 7-B plus. And you also shouldn't lose sight of Kaneki's regeneration.
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Okay?... what is this supposed to mean?
Garou can literally go all the way to 7-A with RE.
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Remind me how fast Half-Monster Garou's growth is? If I'm not mistaken, it took him quite a while to reach 7-AOkay?... what is this supposed to mean?
Garou can literally go all the way to 7-A with RE.
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About as fast as Saitama's (I hope I'm not wanking this).
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Can you give more specific values? If Garou is unable to reach 7-B/7-A in a couple of minutes, then Kaneki has a chance to kill him
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It does say that His power increases rapidly when fighting strong opponents. Since he's in Half-Monster key, that ability is amplified to a greater extent. Sooo... the RE would likely apply nigh-instantly the moment Kaneki tries to RE and hit Garou.
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Your mom’s rock smashing fist takes care of any attack that one shots him, or Garou can pop Kaneki’s skull like a grape by reversing the same attack at him with a multiplier of 2x
When pushed, Half-Monster Garou’s Regeneration can reach the level of Orochi’s, which is High-Mid, as Gyoro Gyoro comments that his potential is equal to that of Orochi’s (Kachon help me out here I know you have the scan for Garou’s evolution I just don’t know where you posted it)
Also no, I don’t think Kaneki will be able to kill Garou at all.
The images you are looking at is Garou surviving a point blank pure energy heat blast from Rover. At the point we see Garou in right now, he is 7-C, possibly High 7-C, meanwhile Rover is indexed on this wiki as being 7-A. That is, that Garou survived an attack that is thousands of AP above his tier. And no, Garou wasn’t already 7-A before this. He was legit coming straight out of his fight with Bug God and the girl from the Ring when he got hit with Rover’s attack.
When pushed, Half-Monster Garou’s Regeneration can reach the level of Orochi’s, which is High-Mid, as Gyoro Gyoro comments that his potential is equal to that of Orochi’s (Kachon help me out here I know you have the scan for Garou’s evolution I just don’t know where you posted it)
Also no, I don’t think Kaneki will be able to kill Garou at all.
The images you are looking at is Garou surviving a point blank pure energy heat blast from Rover. At the point we see Garou in right now, he is 7-C, possibly High 7-C, meanwhile Rover is indexed on this wiki as being 7-A. That is, that Garou survived an attack that is thousands of AP above his tier. And no, Garou wasn’t already 7-A before this. He was legit coming straight out of his fight with Bug God and the girl from the Ring when he got hit with Rover’s attack.
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Kaneki is screwed here
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Hey you stole that from me!
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Kaneki has high-mid regen so it won't bother him.
No, Orochi's potential doesn't give him a similar level of regen. He hasn't shown anything like that even in his Monster form.
Well, that's really impressive. Looks like I'll have to return Garou's old key.
The images you are looking at is Garou surviving a point blank pure energy heat blast from Rover. At the point we see Garou in right now, he is 7-C, possibly High 7-C, meanwhile Rover is indexed on this wiki as being 7-A. That is, that Garou survived an attack that is thousands of AP above his tier. And no, Garou wasn’t already 7-A before this. He was legit coming straight out of his fight with Bug God and the girl from the Ring when he got hit with Rover’s attack.
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Garou AD is just too insane. I got vote for him here.
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If he's gonna do that, make sure he sets the time to night because well.. yeah..
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Bro hates Demon Slayer.
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Doesn't DS gonna have their passive fear manip being layered soon?
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Why doesn't the matchup against Hero Hunter work?
Kaneki vs Akaza is pure stomping. Especially considering Akaza's durability is 8-B
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The 100 perception blitzing shockwaves in question:
What made you think that?
‘Cause Garou took attacks from Bang and Bomb who are also 7-A and continued to fight. They weren’t holding back btw, they were trying to knock his *** out.Why doesn't the matchup against Hero Hunter work?
Kaneki vs Akaza is pure stomping. Especially considering Akaza's durability is 8-B
Perception blitzing regeneration makes Akaza hard to kill.
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So when is the fear manip thread gonna be made
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