Kefka Palazzo vs Zeref Dragneel

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Welp I got asked by Pachi so here it is superman kirby

Kefka is in base while Zeref has fairy heart

Speed Equalized

SBA range of 4km max

Place: ASIAN Games arena (cuz I can)

Votes:

Kefka Palazzo: 0

Zeref Dragneel: 0

Incon: 0

 

[Schnee_One]

Kefka's High 6A justification makes zero sense

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

OOF. So...CRT anyone?

 

[Schnee_One]

If someone can like

Actually tell me how he's High 6A.

Then that would help

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I haven't looked yet but it's probably not as bad as Lucy's 6B justificatio

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

I'm just the man here helping pachi

 

[TriforcePower1]

So, CRT?

 

[PaChi2]

Lol I didnt see this

Facepalm

 

[PaChi2]

Kefka stomped the espers, which include Ifrit, who is High 6-A.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Dammit, PaChi beat me to it.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

>Is High 6-A for stomping Low 5-Bs who are low 5-B for being similar to a 5-A

10/10 would logic again

 

[PaChi2]

Kefka CRT

 

[FateAlbane]

Kefka can power null a bunch of magic users all at once, so assuming his tier remains the same and power null is accepted as it is he should win.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

>when Zeref resists power null

 

[FateAlbane]

• Looks at profile.

Where?

 

[Schnee_One]

Does he lead with powernull?

 

[FateAlbane]

His key references Kefka as of the Thamasa situation, at which point he does lead with power null.

If it's based on overall appearances throughout the game however, then nah, he leads with some magic or something.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

In powers and abilities, in between resistance to soul manip and death manip.

 

[FateAlbane]

Sorry, I could have worded that better but I meant more "Where in the series" he resists it since that power null resistance isn't specified.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Keye's Anti Magic particles didn't work on him.

 

[FateAlbane]

Alright, thanks.

That leaves me only the question of whether we can scale that resistance to work against Kefka's null, though. Since Keyes is Like Low 7-C and this is High 6-A power nulling.

I'm more asking than saying this time since I'm not entirely sure of how people scale potency of power null in the same dimensional level.

 

[FateAlbane]

I should probably ask what Zeref himself leads with, too, though.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I don't think the level of the durability/attack potency of the people matter when it comes to power null if they don't have any resistances to it.

 

[Drákos_Kókkinos]

Kefka has a seriously high range advantage, and equal and more combat-applicable abilities (Though Zeref does have quite a few resistances). I do question the Ifrit thing tho. "burning the whole world" already sounds like weird phrasing/hyperbole, and tbh had it been something like "continent" or "planet" or something more specific, it might be better. Furthermore, what does the Japanese version say? It might be something entirely different. I personally think that should be checked.

 

[FateAlbane]

^ I'm iffy on debating this now, if Kefka's very tier is under analysis/questioning.

It might be for naught to debate this as of the moment.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Kefka does have a range advantage overall but the fighters are starting 4km away from each other and Zeref's range is hundreds of km.

 

[PaChi2]

Eh.

At least I can say that ifrit is weaker but still comparable to Leviathan.

 

[PaChi2]

I don't think the level of the durability/attack potency of the people matter when it comes to power null if they don't have any resistances to it.

I think it does. You are nulling power. You have to show that you can null X quantity of power. The burden of proof is on the guy nulling.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

What if the power being nulled is explicitly above the power null?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

So like if someone power nulls a building level dude, he can't do it to a city level dude?

 

[PaChi2]

I mean, Invulnerability and Power Null are one and the same. Invulnerability is the defensive version. Power Null should be treated the same way az Invulnerability (aka with feats).

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Aren't defensive hax the ones that need feats and the offensive ones don't in general?

 

[PaChi2]

Aren't defensive hax the ones that need feats and the offensive ones don't in general?

Bruh.

 

[PaChi2]

So, small question, were these anti-magic thingies Zeref resisted High 6-A?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Nah. But imma tell you, no matter who wins, it'll be a...Decisive Battle.

 

[PaChi2]

Nah. But imma tell you, no matter who wins, it'll be a...Decisive Battle.

You said it.

you wi

 

[DragonEmperor23]

They were the type of power null that ignores durability/AP.

 

[HST_Master]

Nah. But imma tell you, no matter who wins, it'll be a...Decisive Battle.

Subarashii

 

[PaChi2]

They were the type of power null that ignores durability/AP.

Sorry but I will have to require more information on the mechanics of said null than "the type that ignores dura".

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I think it was agreed that prevented use of a power ignored AP, while oyputright negating it doesn't