Keys To the Kingdom Upgrade

[Monarch_Laciel]

Shouldn't the KttK universe have its highest tiers at multi-universal (low-2C) rather than universal? There are numerous references to other universes within the series, most notably through the Improbable Stair, all of which were created/recreated by the Old and New Architects and all of which was destroyed by the wave of Nothing

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

Well, creating the entire space-time continuums of universes from scratch is a Low 2-C feat, and reducing several of them to absolute nothingness in a single strike is regular 2-C.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Well the Old and New Architects did recreate the Incomparable Gardens and the entire multiverse of Secondary Realms out of a void of Nothing, and the New Architect was seemingly (there's no timeframe given, but it happens between the end of one chapter and the beginning of the next) able to do it within seconds, although he was essentially working off a blueprint.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Roughly how many universes are we talking about here? More than 1000 (2-B)? More than 10^500 (2-A)?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

A number isn't ever stated, but there are multiple universes created and destroyed, which is why I think it should be 2-C rather than 3-A

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. "At least 2-C" seems reasonable to me.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Monarch, we don't normally do edits until one's thread (such as yours here) gets some input from the community and staff.

Just toe let you know of this.

Aside that, and if this info is correct, i don't mind changing their tiers from 3-A to 2-C. They are in need of an update going by this thread here, it seems...

 

[Legion350]

This was discussed on Naruto forums with excerpts from the book

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Mmm. That's quite fine in my book then. And the changes seem done from the looks of it, i see.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Ok, sorry about the premature edit. I'll remember that in the future

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Eh it's fine enough i suppose...just for this, i mean...

 

[Antvasima]

The pages that were upgraded to 2-C, now need to be admin-locked though.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

^Weekly's already covered that, so it's good.

 

[Legion350]

It mentions infinite territories. So wouldn't that be 2-A?

 

[Antvasima]

A single universe can technically be infinite in size, or do you mean an infinite number of territories?

 

[Legion350]

Yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, then completely destroying, alternately creating them from scratch, are 2-A feats, yes.

 

[Cropfist]

Upgrade looks fine.

 

[Legion350]

Can I add it to the necessary pages, also shouldn't The Arichitect have immeasurable speed for Creating the Improbable Stair?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Since this is a KTTK thread, i was gonna ask about what's up with the general speed?

Like most of them sans the more faster ones (ex. The Architect) are FTE/Subsonic but have no reasonings to back them up. Any reason as to what they've done in the series to get that rating?

 

[Legion350]

Arthur has this feat

And there is this feat

 

[Antvasima]

If the Improbable Stair can take the Architect anywhere within the multiverse instantly, I suppose that would either be Infinite speed, or just teleportation.

Our official requirement for immeasurable speed reads as follows:

"The speed statistic should be listed as "Immeasurable" only if a character is completely transcendental to the distance, time, and causality of a normal universal continuum."

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, should we upgrade the Architect and Arthur to 2-A or not?

 

[Legion350]

Bump

 

[Delta3000]

Depends on how big the kttk multiverse is so prehaps the arhetects should be given the range of 2-C to 2-A.

 

[Antvasima]

As I mentioned earlier, I think that a 2-A rating seems reasonable.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Last thing for me after my "majorly" break...then going to break time.

I'm fine with upgrading them further to 2-A based on the infinite territories thing (which i guess by territories, it means universes).

As for the speed for that of the Improbable Star, i can't say if it's Immeasurable so the next best one would be Infinite then. Unless it has what it qualifies for Immeasurable. by our definition....

@God-King: So MHS or MHS+ for Early story Arthur? I'm fine with that if anything.

Either way tho, the pages stats are really in need of some major check up; preferably those who are quite familiar with the series (FTE/Subsonic 4-B characters? Where did that come from?).

 

[Antvasima]

@GKS77 Do you wish to update the pages accordingly? I, or some other administrator or content moderator, can unlock them for you when you are ready.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

So just checking the changes, 2-A for Old and New Architects, with all of their corresponding stats being upgraded as such (i.e. durability changed to multiversal for the surviving of the Nothing Wave), and Arthur gets MHS speed for his denizen tier?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that seems correct, yes.

 

[Antvasima]

So, should I only unlock the Arthur and Architect pages, or something more as well?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Just those two should be fine

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Feel free to adjust them appropriately.

 

[Legion350]

Can I add infinite speed since, it can bring them everywhere in space and time.

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, yes.

 

[Legion350]

@Crossverse the MHS+ scales to all the key weilders. The 4-B is because they are able to pocket Solar Systems.

 

[Legion350]

I've upgraded both Arthur and the Architects pages.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will lock them then.

 

[Legion350]

Why do some characters have stats with no reasoning?