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This fair enough, XV Demigra first move is EE the entire cosmology. His second move is probably sealing and bfr, i think he can dodge and keep his distace from Kratos until he realize he need he need to use his other haxes, still that chance is slim so he got the same treatment like when he face Future Warrior
Isn't that mind hax tho?
 
I thought his first move was that.
that is if he just a Demon, then he use Dark Ki haxes as his first move yes, i thought he in his Tokitoki absorbed key, which he gonna EE first, he trying to destroy the cosmology, he threaten to EE Future Warrior when they fight
 
Can demigra affect Concept type 1??? Because if he cant then forget for harm kratos
he can indirectly seal and bfr the battlefield away into the Crack of Time which is beyond baseline 2-A range in his Tokitoki absorbed key which he has Time Power, but lol it not his first move, and he died before he can even do his first move against his opponent so it is unknown what is his second move. Thus while he theoretically have wincon, he get yeeted before he can do so
 
For there to be any semblance of fairness in this match, it cannot be PoH Kratos
Basically, although tbf this would prevent Demigra from taking Kratos's spot in the "Top 10 Strongest 2-C list" if he did win against Kratos if it wasn't against PoH Kratos.
 
he can indirectly seal and bfr the battlefield away into the Crack of Time which is beyond baseline 2-A range in his Tokitoki absorbed key which he has Time Power, but lol it not his first move, and he died before he can even do his first move against his opponent so it is unknown what is his second move. Thus while he theoretically have wincon, he get yeeted before he can do so
You must can affect hope for affect kratos, his entire being is protected by that. Kratos just need to attack him with CM 1 and he die because he not resist that
 
You must can affect hope for affect kratos, his entire being is protected by that. Kratos just need to attack him with CM 1 and he die because he not resist that
nah, he didn't need it, with Time Power, he can seal away the 2-C cosmology, through that away along with Kratos in it, it doesn't matter what the hell Kratos is, he doesn't need to directly touch Kratos, there are multiple way to win the battle without directly touching your opponent, if you have ability to do so, and DB game like to do that, Chronoa can't deal with Mechikabura??, she seal the entire Demon Realm along with the guy and throw everything out, etc....

Unless you claim that Kratos magically still stand before Demigra while his entire cosmology (along with the place he standing on) got thrown out, which, i think he need supporting evidences for that

But anyway this isn't his first move, we don't even know if it is his second move or not since before he can perform his first move, he get killed
 
nah, he didn't need it, with Time Power, he can seal away the 2-C cosmology, through that away along with Kratos in it, it doesn't matter what the hell Kratos is, he doesn't need to directly touch Kratos, there are multiple way to win the battle without directly touching your opponent, if you have ability to do so, and DB game like to do that, Chronoa can't deal with Mechikabura??, she seal the entire Demon Realm along with the guy and throw everything out, etc....

Unless you claim that Kratos magically still stand before Demigra while his entire cosmology (along with the place he standing on) got thrown out, which, i think he need supporting evidences for that

But anyway this isn't his first move, we don't even know if it is his second move or not since before he can perform his first move, he get killed
And what, let Kratos detect immediately and make him realize on what to do? Bro's senses will fire off immediately if Demigra does anything funny, and will proceed to launch his own BFR amped with conceptual shenanigans that won't even have to BFR to kill Demigra. Literally anything Kratos does, Demigra dies.

And oh, Demigra seems to have Class P LS to Kratos' Immeasurable. So if Kratos decides to do portal BFR shenanigans or the telekinesis shenanigans like Ares did, Demigra is effectively toast.
 
And what, let Kratos detect immediately and make him realize on what to do? Bro's senses will fire off immediately if Demigra does anything funny, and will proceed to launch his own BFR amped with conceptual shenanigans that won't even have to BFR to kill Demigra. Literally anything Kratos does, Demigra dies.

And oh, Demigra seems to have Class P LS to Kratos' Immeasurable. So if Kratos decides to do portal BFR shenanigans or the telekinesis shenanigans like Ares did, Demigra is effectively toast.
i....don't understand what you trying to say actually. Also, LS is completely irrelevant, idk why you mention it
 
i....don't understand what you trying to say actually. Also, LS is completely irrelevant, idk why you mention it
Kratos has a move that can BFR Demigra to a dimension where he fights other Demigras, basically. It works via sucking victims into a portal so the lower lifting strength means he can't do anything to avoid it.

Also, Kratos can just open with layered conceptual power nullification. Or AoE conceptual destruction. Or that level of mind control etc.

This seems to be an unwinnable match. Both stomp with opening moves, though Kratos has far more moves that finish him off.
 
PoH Kratos has got to be like the most utterly broken 2-C out there. Negates every form of immortality besides Type 9, concept hax/immunity, immune to Death Manipulation that can kill immortals, etc.
Actually, you can take that off too, Lmao.
 
nah, he didn't need it, with Time Power, he can seal away the 2-C cosmology, through that away along with Kratos in it, it doesn't matter what the hell Kratos is, he doesn't need to directly touch Kratos, there are multiple way to win the battle without directly touching your opponent, if you have ability to do so, and DB game like to do that, Chronoa can't deal with Mechikabura??, she seal the entire Demon Realm along with the guy and throw everything out, etc....

Unless you claim that Kratos magically still stand before Demigra while his entire cosmology (along with the place he standing on) got thrown out, which, i think he need supporting evidences for that

But anyway this isn't his first move, we don't even know if it is his second move or not since before he can perform his first move, he get killed
Just seal the physical structure not will affect the abstract concept, that mean not affect hope and not affect kratos

Unless you say affect the physical structure is magically affect the abstraction too
 
Yeah this is a stomp now. Kratos and all of GoW got upped to Low 1-C. 5D hax and smurf and layer bullshit means Kratos clears both DC and DB, as horrible of a nightmare as it sounds.
 
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