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Continuation of this thread, except this is for the anime.
Note: Trainers scaling to anything Tier 2 will be discussed in a later thread, don't discuss them here yet.
The premise of this is to prove that Pokemon trainers can consistently scale to legendaries, and that we shouldn't say "its a non legendary so any feat of damaging legendaries is an outlier"
Here are many (almost all) occasions where trainers damage the following legendaries, or survive attacks from them, enough for it to justify that pokemon scaling to the legendary:
Bolded ones are for the legendary being affected by a super effective move, or a Pokemon taking a hit from a legendary that they resisted.
A battle frontier Articuno is knocked back by Ash's Charizard's Dragon Breath
A battle frontier Articuno is KO'd by Ash's Charizard's Seismic Toss
This Articuno's Ice Beam was overpowered by Ash's Charizard's Flamethrower
Zapdos gets sent flying far away by Ash's Hawlucha's High Jump Kick, even though Zapdos resists it
Zapdos is one shot by Ash's Noivern's Boomburst
Ash's Charizard's Flamethrower clashed with Moltres', they were almost on par with each other
A trained Salamence clashes equally with Moltres' Flamethrower, and then tanks its attack
They are sent flying by a trained Zoroark's Night Daze
Raikou is badly harmed by Steelix's Dig
Their Ariados can harm Latios and Latias
Ash's Pikachu one shots Latias after Aerodactyl grabs it and Latias can't escape
Latias takes damage from their Espeon's Psychic
Latias is one shotted by their Espeon's Psybeam
Tobias' Latios is defeated by Pikachu's Volt Tackle
Nurse Joy's Latias is sent flying by a trained Rhyperior's Megahorn
Paul's Nidoking knocks back and damages Brandon's Registeel with Double Kick
Ash's Torkoal harms Brandon's Registeel and forces it to guard itself
Ash's Torkoal used Flamethrower to clash explosively with Registeel's Zap Cannon
Ash's Torkoal used Heat Wave to push back Registeel's Sandstorm, which could push back Torkoal's Flamethrower
Ash's Torkoal jumped on Registeel, toppling it
Torkoal leaped off a wall, jumping on to Registeel and pushing it back
Ash's Torkoal used the power of Registeel's Sandstorm to spin Registeel, damaging it badly after that, though Torkoal is KOd after getting hit by Zap Cannon
Durability
Paul's Nidoking shakes off Brandon's Registeel's Flash Cannon
Torkoal with Iron Defense tanked a Zap Cannon from Brandon's Registeel
Torkoal leaped off a wall after being tossed by Registeel
Steven's Mega Metagross uses Flash Cannon which overpowers and knocks Primal Kyogre far back even though it resists the attack
Durability
Steven's Mega Metagross doesn't take too much damage from Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam
Steven's Mega Metagross takes a swipe from Primal Kyogre and was sent flying, though he wasn't that harmed
Team Galactic's Toxicroak was able to damage it enough for it to be caught in a Dusk Ball with Dig - Pokemon: The Hallowed God Arceus
Pikachu effortlessly slices threads that base Heatran couldn't even break out of - Pokemon: The Hallowed God Arceus
Iris' Dragonite, Cynthia's Garchomp and a trainer's Golurk pushed back Therian formes of Thundurus, Landorus and Tornadus respectively
Therian Landorus is knocked back from Iris' Dragonite's Ice Beam, though it doesn't take much damage
Durability
Iris' Dragonite took an Iron Tail from Therian Landorus without much damage
Cynthia's Garchomp likely tanked some of Therian Landorus' Stone Edge, as we see some smoke. Landorus' stone edge only explodes with smoke when it hits the enemy
Pikachu's Thunderbolt equally matches Shiny Genesect's Signal Beam
Pikachu briefly holds back 2 Signal Beams from 2 Genesects before being overpowered
Yveltal
Ash's Pikachu clashes almost evenly with Oblivion Wing using Thunderbolt
This happens again, but Thunderbolt briefly overpowers Oblivion Wing, though Oblivion Wing quickly overpowers Thunderbolt instead
Pikachu's Thunderbolt clashes pretty evenly with Yveltal's Hyper Beam which can shatter Diancie's diamond
A trainer's Chesnaught clashes explosively with Yveltal's Hyper Beam with Pin Missile. As shown above, Yveltal's Hyperbeam doesn't explode on contact with everything, so this is actually a feat
About Ash's Pikachu being inconsistent:
Pikachu being inconsistent is greatly exaggerated. First of all, he holds back especially against wild Pokemon, as he doesn't like harming them much, to the point where he'd take a hit from other Pokemon to prevent wild Pokemon from getting hurt. Second, he rarely even gets defeated or overpowered by wild Pokemon Pikachu more consistently can one shot fully evolved Pokemon, here are just some of the many examples
One shots a Scrafty - Best Wishes
One shots team rocket's Weezing and Arbok, damages a Machamp and Rhydon early into the first few seasons
One shots a Rhydon even though its supposed to be immune to it - Orange Islands
One shots Sawyer's Aegislash which even as a Honedge can clash evenly with early Pikachu's Iron Tail - XY
Overpowers Sawyer's Mega Sceptile's Leaf Storm which could damage and send Pikachu himself flying - XY
Quick Attack
Clashes evenly with Paul's Electivire - Diamond and Pearl
Knocks back a trained Steelix even with its resistance
+ the examples in the legendary section scaling
Important: If you think Ash is still too inconsistent, name some anti feats below. I'll counter it with 2 better feats
Not many profiles will change for now, this is just to prove that we shouldn't automatically consider stuff an outlier if a trainer damages a legendary
Note: Trainers scaling to anything Tier 2 will be discussed in a later thread, don't discuss them here yet.
The premise of this is to prove that Pokemon trainers can consistently scale to legendaries, and that we shouldn't say "its a non legendary so any feat of damaging legendaries is an outlier"
Here are many (almost all) occasions where trainers damage the following legendaries, or survive attacks from them, enough for it to justify that pokemon scaling to the legendary:
Bolded ones are for the legendary being affected by a super effective move, or a Pokemon taking a hit from a legendary that they resisted.
Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres
Rocket Trio's Wobuffet reflects Articuno's Ice Beam, though Wobuffet is damagedA battle frontier Articuno is knocked back by Ash's Charizard's Dragon Breath
A battle frontier Articuno is KO'd by Ash's Charizard's Seismic Toss
This Articuno's Ice Beam was overpowered by Ash's Charizard's Flamethrower
Zapdos gets sent flying far away by Ash's Hawlucha's High Jump Kick, even though Zapdos resists it
Zapdos is one shot by Ash's Noivern's Boomburst
Ash's Charizard's Flamethrower clashed with Moltres', they were almost on par with each other
A trained Salamence clashes equally with Moltres' Flamethrower, and then tanks its attack
Entei, Raikou and Suicune
They are sent flying by a trained Zoroark's Night Daze
Raikou is badly harmed by Steelix's Dig
Latios and Latias
Latios is damaged by Annie and Oakley's Espeon's SwiftTheir Ariados can harm Latios and Latias
Ash's Pikachu one shots Latias after Aerodactyl grabs it and Latias can't escape
Latias takes damage from their Espeon's Psychic
Latias is one shotted by their Espeon's Psybeam
Tobias' Latios is defeated by Pikachu's Volt Tackle
Nurse Joy's Latias is sent flying by a trained Rhyperior's Megahorn
Regirock, Registeel and Regice
Paul's Nidoking damages Brandon's Registeel with Earth PowerPaul's Nidoking knocks back and damages Brandon's Registeel with Double Kick
Ash's Torkoal harms Brandon's Registeel and forces it to guard itself
Ash's Torkoal used Flamethrower to clash explosively with Registeel's Zap Cannon
Ash's Torkoal used Heat Wave to push back Registeel's Sandstorm, which could push back Torkoal's Flamethrower
Ash's Torkoal jumped on Registeel, toppling it
Torkoal leaped off a wall, jumping on to Registeel and pushing it back
Ash's Torkoal used the power of Registeel's Sandstorm to spin Registeel, damaging it badly after that, though Torkoal is KOd after getting hit by Zap Cannon
Durability
Paul's Nidoking shakes off Brandon's Registeel's Flash Cannon
Torkoal with Iron Defense tanked a Zap Cannon from Brandon's Registeel
Torkoal leaped off a wall after being tossed by Registeel
Groudon and Kyogre
Kyogre amped by the Red Orb fired a Hyperbeam that Lance's Gyarados held back for a few moments with his own Hyperbeam, before getting overpoweredSteven's Mega Metagross uses Flash Cannon which overpowers and knocks Primal Kyogre far back even though it resists the attack
Durability
Steven's Mega Metagross doesn't take too much damage from Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam
Steven's Mega Metagross takes a swipe from Primal Kyogre and was sent flying, though he wasn't that harmed
Heatran
Team Galactic's Toxicroak was able to damage it enough for it to be caught in a Dusk Ball with Dig - Pokemon: The Hallowed God Arceus
Pikachu effortlessly slices threads that base Heatran couldn't even break out of - Pokemon: The Hallowed God Arceus
Reshiram
Ash's Pikachu does a lot of damage to Reshiram with ThunderboltMewtwo (Movie 16)
Dirk's Escavalier sent Mewtwo flying back and harmed it with Energy BallLandorus, Thundurus, Tornados
Iris' Dragonite, Cynthia's Garchomp and a trainer's Golurk pushed back Therian formes of Thundurus, Landorus and Tornadus respectively
Therian Landorus is knocked back from Iris' Dragonite's Ice Beam, though it doesn't take much damage
Durability
Iris' Dragonite took an Iron Tail from Therian Landorus without much damage
Cynthia's Garchomp likely tanked some of Therian Landorus' Stone Edge, as we see some smoke. Landorus' stone edge only explodes with smoke when it hits the enemy
Meloetta
Ash's Krookodile shook off a Hyper Voice from Pirouette MeloettaGenesect
Pikachu's Thunderbolt equally matches Shiny Genesect's Signal Beam
Pikachu briefly holds back 2 Signal Beams from 2 Genesects before being overpowered
Yveltal
Ash's Pikachu clashes almost evenly with Oblivion Wing using Thunderbolt
This happens again, but Thunderbolt briefly overpowers Oblivion Wing, though Oblivion Wing quickly overpowers Thunderbolt instead
Pikachu's Thunderbolt clashes pretty evenly with Yveltal's Hyper Beam which can shatter Diancie's diamond
A trainer's Chesnaught clashes explosively with Yveltal's Hyper Beam with Pin Missile. As shown above, Yveltal's Hyperbeam doesn't explode on contact with everything, so this is actually a feat
About Ash's Pikachu being inconsistent:
Pikachu being inconsistent is greatly exaggerated. First of all, he holds back especially against wild Pokemon, as he doesn't like harming them much, to the point where he'd take a hit from other Pokemon to prevent wild Pokemon from getting hurt. Second, he rarely even gets defeated or overpowered by wild Pokemon Pikachu more consistently can one shot fully evolved Pokemon, here are just some of the many examples
One shots a Scrafty - Best Wishes
One shots team rocket's Weezing and Arbok, damages a Machamp and Rhydon early into the first few seasons
One shots a Rhydon even though its supposed to be immune to it - Orange Islands
One shots Sawyer's Aegislash which even as a Honedge can clash evenly with early Pikachu's Iron Tail - XY
Overpowers Sawyer's Mega Sceptile's Leaf Storm which could damage and send Pikachu himself flying - XY
Quick Attack
Clashes evenly with Paul's Electivire - Diamond and Pearl
Knocks back a trained Steelix even with its resistance
+ the examples in the legendary section scaling
Important: If you think Ash is still too inconsistent, name some anti feats below. I'll counter it with 2 better feats
Not many profiles will change for now, this is just to prove that we shouldn't automatically consider stuff an outlier if a trainer damages a legendary
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