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Yeah, I essentially created a new staff thread to address a wording issue in the draft. I don't think 4D has any definitive tier, so based on my understanding from @LordGinSama's posts, he is specifically referring to the 2-A range. I don't think you were suggesting this. You were simply proposing a 2-C range ability.
Going back to the discussion itself; if I am not mistaken, or if I misunderstood the intentions, you are simply trying to propose 4D precognition in the sense that he simply foresees thousands of futures. The argument for it or the underlying principle you use for the thread's premise is that you equate “future” to be a timeline.
There is a misconception here. I am not sure why an ability that is solely focused on foreseeing multiple futures (and not any other point in time) requires foreseeing the present and the past. This is not how precognition works. Precognition is only the ability to foresee futures, and not any other points in time.
So here is the trick; your assumption relies on the future(s) in that statement being blatantly different existing timelines, which is not our default standard to follow. Let me demonstrate this. You can see multiple futures on the same time-axis, in the sense that you can see multiple outcomes. As far as the panel here suggests, it is a bit akin to Yhwach's ability – he can foresee multiple futures, except for one (Yhwach could not foresee the arrow coming either).
The line "Of the tens of thousands of futures I foresee... There's just one where they have the advantage" highlights that he is capable to foresee into a multitude of potential outcomes without necessitating the existence of multiple timelines or distinct time-axes.
The key insight here lies in the diversity of these futures—each representing a different set of events, choices, and circumstances. The character's foresight, therefore, is not about traversing various timelines but rather exploring the myriad ways in which events can unfold within the confines of a single, continuous reality.
Also, why exactly the resistance? He is not supposed to see every existing future in the verse, so him not seeing Asta's future could simply be due to a lack of further range or limitations of the range.
If you are trying to give 4D precognition in the sense that he could cover multiple time axes, then you need to provide more shreds of evidence than this, since he is doing what any precognition user does – seeing multiple futures. So, I disagree with the thread.
If your focus is on the quantity (some people may argue that foreseeing 10 futures < 1000 futures), I think this has already been accepted in the profile.
Going back to the discussion itself; if I am not mistaken, or if I misunderstood the intentions, you are simply trying to propose 4D precognition in the sense that he simply foresees thousands of futures. The argument for it or the underlying principle you use for the thread's premise is that you equate “future” to be a timeline.
There is a misconception here. I am not sure why an ability that is solely focused on foreseeing multiple futures (and not any other point in time) requires foreseeing the present and the past. This is not how precognition works. Precognition is only the ability to foresee futures, and not any other points in time.
So here is the trick; your assumption relies on the future(s) in that statement being blatantly different existing timelines, which is not our default standard to follow. Let me demonstrate this. You can see multiple futures on the same time-axis, in the sense that you can see multiple outcomes. As far as the panel here suggests, it is a bit akin to Yhwach's ability – he can foresee multiple futures, except for one (Yhwach could not foresee the arrow coming either).
The line "Of the tens of thousands of futures I foresee... There's just one where they have the advantage" highlights that he is capable to foresee into a multitude of potential outcomes without necessitating the existence of multiple timelines or distinct time-axes.
The key insight here lies in the diversity of these futures—each representing a different set of events, choices, and circumstances. The character's foresight, therefore, is not about traversing various timelines but rather exploring the myriad ways in which events can unfold within the confines of a single, continuous reality.
Also, why exactly the resistance? He is not supposed to see every existing future in the verse, so him not seeing Asta's future could simply be due to a lack of further range or limitations of the range.
If you are trying to give 4D precognition in the sense that he could cover multiple time axes, then you need to provide more shreds of evidence than this, since he is doing what any precognition user does – seeing multiple futures. So, I disagree with the thread.
If your focus is on the quantity (some people may argue that foreseeing 10 futures < 1000 futures), I think this has already been accepted in the profile.
