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Can you get me footage of the feats?
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Mario discussion 9.5:Forum's inside story
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Two feats is enough? Even then, we apparently came to the agreement all fodder don't scale to each other because some are "clearly" better than others.
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I thought lightning was said to be in talks of getting yeeted cause humans can survive it apparently
And there's still the issue of the fodder scaling chain. The rest can't be comparable if Chain Chomps aren't when they were also in the mode that had all minions at comparable levels as that's contradictory.
And there's still the issue of the fodder scaling chain. The rest can't be comparable if Chain Chomps aren't when they were also in the mode that had all minions at comparable levels as that's contradictory.
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Wow this thread has been inactive. Have the enemy profiles been uploaded yet?
Also, may have been brought up before, but in Bowser's Castle in PM64, there's this dialogue:
(Jump to 39:00 )
"Mario, your main goal is to save the princess, isn't it? She must be doing OK, holding on to the belief that you'll come. We soldiers should have broken out to save her by now... But it's taken all our efforts just to protect the prisoners. ...What a shame."
The fact that even while imprisoned, Toad Soldiers can hold off Bowser's forces says something. It takes all their efforts, but that's still some distant scaling to Bowser's minions. It helps that that soldier is the only soldier in the prison, so he may have been solo-ing, despite the prison lifestyle. (I do wonder how long he spent in there. Long enough to become malnourished?)
Though, said cell is locked, with the Koopatrol being notably alone, both on the overworld & in battle. But scaling to one Koopatrol is better than nothing.
Thoughts all? Trained Toads being tiered would be interesting, IMHO, even if we haven't seen them do much combat.
Also, may have been brought up before, but in Bowser's Castle in PM64, there's this dialogue:
(Jump to 39:00 )
"Mario, your main goal is to save the princess, isn't it? She must be doing OK, holding on to the belief that you'll come. We soldiers should have broken out to save her by now... But it's taken all our efforts just to protect the prisoners. ...What a shame."
The fact that even while imprisoned, Toad Soldiers can hold off Bowser's forces says something. It takes all their efforts, but that's still some distant scaling to Bowser's minions. It helps that that soldier is the only soldier in the prison, so he may have been solo-ing, despite the prison lifestyle. (I do wonder how long he spent in there. Long enough to become malnourished?)
Though, said cell is locked, with the Koopatrol being notably alone, both on the overworld & in battle. But scaling to one Koopatrol is better than nothing.
Thoughts all? Trained Toads being tiered would be interesting, IMHO, even if we haven't seen them do much combat.
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Maybe a Thwomp
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Your wishes shall come true: Thwomp.
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Mario Galaxy Prankster Comet speed
vsbattles.fandom.com
Made a calc that might put mario in the quintillions c, though its probably an outlier. Would this be one?
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It just needs an evaluation.
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Yep Im waiting on one
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Do we still have those unfinished Fodder Revisions? Might impact this versus thread.
Also, we give Mario characters all their stuff, like from SMRPG, PM:TTYD, etcetera, right?
Also, we give Mario characters all their stuff, like from SMRPG, PM:TTYD, etcetera, right?
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I was reading some comments on a new Nintendo video, where Shigeru Miyamoto called himself Mario's dad, & noticed this:
"Miyamoto also said he was Bowser jr's mom, right?"
"Wait, if Miyamoto is Bowser Jr.’s mom... Wouldn’t that make Mario and Luigi step brothers to Bowser Jr. and Bowser is the stepfather???"
So uhhh.... Yeah.
"Miyamoto also said he was Bowser jr's mom, right?"
"Wait, if Miyamoto is Bowser Jr.’s mom... Wouldn’t that make Mario and Luigi step brothers to Bowser Jr. and Bowser is the stepfather???"
So uhhh.... Yeah.
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You’re using ur head too much
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I did not write any of those Youtube comments that I quoted.
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Oh lol
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This calc has been accepted. Don't know if that means quintillion c mario characters, or whatever, but the calc itself has been accepted.
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Maybe for the star children tbf
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Low 2-C Mario: In The Final
Alright. This is it, this will be everything I have. Instead of making a thread for each feat, I'm only doing it all. The proposal is to make the base forms of the Mario cast Low 2-C. Now, where you place it is up to you. My overall goal is for a minimum for a possibly rating. Some of these...
So that was a thing
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It certainly was.
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I agree
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Wow that is a lot of posts, as to be expected when someone tries to push for a "controversial" upgrade
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I disliked how quickly it was shut down. One side didn't even get to propose counters.
But whatevs. There's still tons of hax additions we gotta compile as well as fodder tiers.
But whatevs. There's still tons of hax additions we gotta compile as well as fodder tiers.
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64:
The Toads in 64 are definitely not a mechanic thing. I think it is astral projection as the first toad even says to Mario "we're" trapped between the walls despite the door literally being right there. It makes no sense. After you talk to them they become transparent again as you stand there as well so it's not a rendering issue.
Peach has a message on a wall that tells Mario Bowser is here or whatever and that the power stars are in danger and that there's a secret one in the room and in the first Bowser level before entering the Warp Pipe a sign will tell you that it is Peach and she gives you some advice. She's def got more ESP/Telepathy stuff going on in this game and possibly clairvoyance for leaving notes well in advance detailing exactly what would happen and is happening
Bowser also has ESP for monitoring Mario's progress and having his voice speak to Mario while he's in another world/dimension.
Power Stars have a ton of implied abilities we'll need to add. They are probably worth a CRT on their own.
Sunshine:
Shadow Mario needs a BIG revision. Lots of additions to add. I will bring up that the flood of the plaza has a few local statements implying it's unnatural, the cutscene with Shadow Mario overlooking the Plaza, and the fact afterwards the water evaporates in a flash according to the locals leads me to believe that Shadow Mario was the cause.
Also, after sitting in the Secret Levels for a while the stars endlessly cycle from the bottom to the top. New stars appear and disappear at the bottom and the top respectively. I dunno if this is anything significant though.
Jr. should have shapeshifting via the magic bandana since is shapes his body into Mario for the form.
Shine Sprites keep storms away and help make the sun bright being facets of its power. The haze caused by the lack of them made crops unappealing and made locals cranky and feeling depressed. There's also ties to happiness when you free the Sunflowers of the fake Yoshi's plaguing them and a Shine Sprite appears as well as Eely Mouth feeling thankful after you clean It's teeth.
Mario causing the large stone(?) bath with that liquid inside plus the giant Bowser to tip over could also maybe be applied to LS. Likewise, Bowser tilting the platforms with his stomps in 64 could net something neat.
Galaxy:
Fodder NPCs survive the destruction of Mecha Bowser in this game in Toy Time Galaxy.
Goombas and other enemies can withstand a single Star Spin in this game. Magikoopas react to Star Bits and are one of the few who do.
Power Stars could maybe get the Pranskter Comet abilities since the comets suddenly disappear upon collecting them and the icon looks like a shooting star, not to mention Galaxy 2 has the Green Comet producing Green Power Stars directly.
Rosalina has full control of the Observatory so she def scales to it's speeds. Possibly Light and Matter Manip for materialising the small castle thing onto the first planet of the game, The Gateway and creating a bright light from it.
Star Bits are actually pieces of stars that can come together to form Power Stars as shown by the intro. Dunno how useful this info is. I think we have gravity manip already for Mario cause tbe spin will pull certain items towards him sometimes.
Mario should get adaptation for adapting to the various changes made to galaxies by the Prankster Comets and a few other things I'll probably elaborate on in an actual CRT.
Uhhh... Worth noting the Comet Luma can shuffle or get rid of Comets showing multi-galactic range given these are galaxy clusters in each Dome supported by the official guide and manuals and all. This also means it can move these comets these distances in short timeframes as well.
1-Ups are described as giving you "One additional Mario"
Galaxy 2:
Bowser is stated to be growing more powerful in each encounter with him. That's probably an ability on the wiki that I forgot about.
The Green Star Comet feat of course.
In both games enemies will appear fron black voids that show up.
Whomp King breaks the 4th Wall and also provides proof for 1-Ups being canon and being just extra Mario's
Uhh... I don't remember much else.
3D Land:
Bowser is implied to be responsible for the storm that spreads the leafs everywhere in the beginning.
He can fly away after some battles
His white/pink fireballs will phase through objects
And there's way more like Junior's possible technopathy throughtout the games and more.
Not even touching on the RPG and Spin-off abilities and feats cause woo boy they are also long. Goombas and otber fodder survive the Koopa Cruiser explosion which is actually bigger than it looks just like Mario's Castle feat so once that's properly calced that'll be a good feat for fodder.
The Toads in 64 are definitely not a mechanic thing. I think it is astral projection as the first toad even says to Mario "we're" trapped between the walls despite the door literally being right there. It makes no sense. After you talk to them they become transparent again as you stand there as well so it's not a rendering issue.
Peach has a message on a wall that tells Mario Bowser is here or whatever and that the power stars are in danger and that there's a secret one in the room and in the first Bowser level before entering the Warp Pipe a sign will tell you that it is Peach and she gives you some advice. She's def got more ESP/Telepathy stuff going on in this game and possibly clairvoyance for leaving notes well in advance detailing exactly what would happen and is happening
Bowser also has ESP for monitoring Mario's progress and having his voice speak to Mario while he's in another world/dimension.
Power Stars have a ton of implied abilities we'll need to add. They are probably worth a CRT on their own.
Sunshine:
Shadow Mario needs a BIG revision. Lots of additions to add. I will bring up that the flood of the plaza has a few local statements implying it's unnatural, the cutscene with Shadow Mario overlooking the Plaza, and the fact afterwards the water evaporates in a flash according to the locals leads me to believe that Shadow Mario was the cause.
Also, after sitting in the Secret Levels for a while the stars endlessly cycle from the bottom to the top. New stars appear and disappear at the bottom and the top respectively. I dunno if this is anything significant though.
Jr. should have shapeshifting via the magic bandana since is shapes his body into Mario for the form.
Shine Sprites keep storms away and help make the sun bright being facets of its power. The haze caused by the lack of them made crops unappealing and made locals cranky and feeling depressed. There's also ties to happiness when you free the Sunflowers of the fake Yoshi's plaguing them and a Shine Sprite appears as well as Eely Mouth feeling thankful after you clean It's teeth.
Mario causing the large stone(?) bath with that liquid inside plus the giant Bowser to tip over could also maybe be applied to LS. Likewise, Bowser tilting the platforms with his stomps in 64 could net something neat.
Galaxy:
Fodder NPCs survive the destruction of Mecha Bowser in this game in Toy Time Galaxy.
Goombas and other enemies can withstand a single Star Spin in this game. Magikoopas react to Star Bits and are one of the few who do.
Power Stars could maybe get the Pranskter Comet abilities since the comets suddenly disappear upon collecting them and the icon looks like a shooting star, not to mention Galaxy 2 has the Green Comet producing Green Power Stars directly.
Rosalina has full control of the Observatory so she def scales to it's speeds. Possibly Light and Matter Manip for materialising the small castle thing onto the first planet of the game, The Gateway and creating a bright light from it.
Star Bits are actually pieces of stars that can come together to form Power Stars as shown by the intro. Dunno how useful this info is. I think we have gravity manip already for Mario cause tbe spin will pull certain items towards him sometimes.
Mario should get adaptation for adapting to the various changes made to galaxies by the Prankster Comets and a few other things I'll probably elaborate on in an actual CRT.
Uhhh... Worth noting the Comet Luma can shuffle or get rid of Comets showing multi-galactic range given these are galaxy clusters in each Dome supported by the official guide and manuals and all. This also means it can move these comets these distances in short timeframes as well.
1-Ups are described as giving you "One additional Mario"
Galaxy 2:
Bowser is stated to be growing more powerful in each encounter with him. That's probably an ability on the wiki that I forgot about.
The Green Star Comet feat of course.
In both games enemies will appear fron black voids that show up.
Whomp King breaks the 4th Wall and also provides proof for 1-Ups being canon and being just extra Mario's
Uhh... I don't remember much else.
3D Land:
Bowser is implied to be responsible for the storm that spreads the leafs everywhere in the beginning.
He can fly away after some battles
His white/pink fireballs will phase through objects
And there's way more like Junior's possible technopathy throughtout the games and more.
Not even touching on the RPG and Spin-off abilities and feats cause woo boy they are also long. Goombas and otber fodder survive the Koopa Cruiser explosion which is actually bigger than it looks just like Mario's Castle feat so once that's properly calced that'll be a good feat for fodder.
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I find this pretty creepy ngl
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It is kinda creepy I guess. DS made it worse with the Toads claiming they're going mad the longer they're trapped and all.
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I never thought I would see the day when
Mario goes straight up Super Saiyan, golden spiked hair and all.
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Bowser might be getting good passive transmutation/empath/corruption hax as the second he appears the cats become dark and evil and I think where enemies once stood are now those dark cats.
Only speculation now but big if true.
BJ and Mario also would thusly have the best resistances to those of the cast.
Only speculation now but big if true.
BJ and Mario also would thusly have the best resistances to those of the cast.
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Doesn't he also have passive weather hax??
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Yes he comes up and a big storm happens instantly. Horizon-spanding. Maybe we'll even get a big world overview or lore statements to know the full scale but I'm gonna doubt those lol.
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