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If you do that it would have to be noted that his dura is with the power stone, right?
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MCU: High 6-A/5-C Upgrades
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Yes, he already has two keys
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Sure
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When I watched the scene, It looked to me like Thanos used the power stone to break up the moon, and Thanos used the space stone by itself to pull the chunks off the moon onto titan.
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That was me. I don’t think so because the stone varies.
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Its power varies depending on the size, Ronan wouldn't be able to use that power on Thanos, and the Power Stone gives enhanced power to its user
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We aren’t using those toy statements though.
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So WoG isn’t cool for new info for a crt but everything else is?
1. So I basically have to add unnecessary stuff to my question and not get a direct answer? But GoW stuff is fine?
2. So power lvls weren’t a thing in what if? What dose the term “variants” have to do with there strength?
3. What dose it contradict exactly?
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GoW Stuff is fine because it uses WoG to clarify shit that already exists within the source material, guidebooks, artbooks and the games themselves and even then I'd argue we don't need the WoG because all of it is within the games themselves, but of course, 2018 wasn't exactly very kind to those revisions and thus we had to use WoG to shut them up. Which kinda didn't make things better for anyone.
So it pretty much depends on a verse-by-verse basis and the nature of the questions asked, and whether the answers to said questions are serious enough and not lore-contradicting to boot.
Same exact dude, same exact power ups, same strength level. In the case of Captain Marvel and her core-busting feat however, that kind of doesn't work because everything post the Nexus event is royally screwed up as per what Qaws said.
See my answer to point 2.
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The toy isn't the main evidence for 6-B Ronan, but these statements of him being the most powerful being in the universe and planning to destroy Thanos after doing it with Xandar, the toy only confirms that the Power Stone enhances the power of its user
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And asking if variants are equal to there mainline counterparts isn’t clarifying stuff that already exist in the source material?
And I said in response to that
“I mean that’s the point of the nexus events being out of control. First they deviate from the main timeline creating a nexus timeline then it starts to create infinte variations of said nexus timeline. While the main nexus event might have been say tony slept on the wrong side of the bed, there can be other nexus timelines branching off of that with there own variations and still have the same main nexus event.”
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That’s, um, not an explanation for why Thanos got the stones 3 years earlier, or why Gamora is alive, how how something’s aren’t affected the ways they should be.
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That's only part of the equation. Other part of the equation is keeping their past events the exact same to the letter as the canon source.
Like, before Loki teleported himself to a desert his life played out the exact same way from 2011 Thor up until Avengers. That doesn't happen with the "Ultron Won" episode, lots of other minor details are radically cahnged. Like how Thanos got those stones way earlier than expected. Or who he sacrificed to obtain the Soul Stone given that neither Gamora nor Nebula were alive at the time.
Problem is, a lot of shit that shouldn't have deviated, have deviated without creating a Nexus event in this timeline.
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This can be applied to Ronan and Rocket I guess.
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Ya and as I said this probably a variant of the main nexus event
Thats the whole point of a nexus event, it spans off into infinity with endless variations. So anything can happen.
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Sure.
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As long as the sources are referenced properly and where they come from, yeah sure.
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Do we consider the Hammer TK attack Ronan used on the GotG, minus Rocket, as separate AP from his Power Stone Hammer attacks (Energy Beam and Touch the Planet)? If so, should a note be placed on Ronan's Profile to explain why it (TK attack) and the GotG don't scale to the Tier 6 value?
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I think its just the same ability Thanos used on the GotG that knocked them out. It's just a hax power rather than a AP power.
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They seem to be different. The Stone seems to only slightly amp Ronan's Hammer's TK AoE and Range.
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If we settled everything, can this thread soon be closed?
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They seem to be different. The Stone seems to only slightly amp Ronan's Hammer's TK AoE and Range.
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Or maybe it’s because he regulated it’s power
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Whenever the changes are applied it can be closed. Assuming no one wants to continue the other arguments.
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The changes were applied.
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I applied the changes to Ronan, are they fine?
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Looks fine at a quick glance.
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Imo, there's a visual difference between Thanos' Gauntlet PS shockwave, and Ronan's Hammer Shockwave/TK and when Ronan uses the PS to attack.
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Oh I thought he only shot out shockwaves or whatever. I guess he just used the hammers powerImo, there's a visual difference between Thanos' Gauntlet PS shockwave, and Ronan's Hammer Shockwave/TK and when Ronan uses the PS to attack.
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That's already on Rocket's profile and in the scan of the guidebook
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On Rocket's profile, on Ronan's Profile it just looks like an incomplete sentence.
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IIRC an At Least is usually used for stuff far above baseline values ain't it?
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I think just 5-C is ok.
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