Momoshiki (Boruto Movie Upgrade)

[TheMozart]

Is this an Expansive Truthseeker Orb?

Momoshiki All 7 natures

Momoshiki creates an attack then fires it at Naruto. This isn't unheard of or something we haven't seen him do. He was using attack that were composed of multiple natures like Mokuton or that Lava rock golem. Another thing that must be noted is he used the 8 tails chakra to help him form the attack because his chakra was low at the time due to a reason he explained in the film.

Similar to how Kaguya formed her Expansive TSB via the tailed beasts. Momo and Kaguya's attacks had all 7 natures endowed in them.

What's more is that Momoshiki's attack warped space and made Naruto disappear probably hinting at the creation of a new dimension.

At that time, a huge explosion that twists and warps space! A twosome who call themselves Momoshiki and Kinshiki appear, wrapped in an ominous atmosphere. Both hands wield the Rinnegan and tenaciously aim to take Naruto's life. Sasuke protects Boruto, who is petrified and unable to do anything. Naruto, who was occupied by that and turned his back, disappears with a jutsu fired by Momoshiki. He leaves Boruto a smile…

I always lol'd at people and their thought of Kaguya atomizing an entire dimension. The tsb are sort multi dimensional weapons someone mentioned this on the site before. The databook says something about the power of all existence are in the orbs but I already know that isn't going to be accepted.

More Important Info

The tsb are named differently when someones uses them with other natures like Kaguya's and Naruto's for example. Or Toneri his have different names like Silver Wheel. Everyone's usage of the orbs have differ names.

Naruto's tsb are named Bijuu Dama Rasenshurikens

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[Coleworld12]

7 natures ? I thought they're were only 5 not including kekkai genkai?

 

[YubbelSeraphim]

7 natures ? I thought they're were only 5 not including kekkai genkai?

The main 5 are fire,earth,water,lightning, and wind. The other two are ying and yang.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

That was a bijuu dama, the same one the tail beast used. Remember that he fought and absorb 3-4 tail beast including 8 tails iirc, there's no TSB in Boruto the movie. The power of his Rinnegan alouds him to absorb attacks and used them againts his opponents. Is like creating a pocket dimension for the powers to go until he wants to use them.

 

[TheMozart]

Someone didn't read the thread thoroughly. Naruto's TSB are called Bijuu Damas when he uses them in the fashion posted above. Naruto was using Kurama's power when he used his TSB they were labelled as Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken and not TSB rasenshuriken. Kaguya used the tailed beasts to form her Expansive TSB.

There are TSB shown in the movie. He shoots some at Sasuke when he is holding up his red Rasengan. He used an Expansive TSB on Naruto. The thing is we don't how an Expansive TSB looks like animated. Kaguya's hasn't been animated yet. So at first we would recognize it. And a lot of the TSB change color when someone uses a special techbique just look at Toneri and Naruto. Toneri's Sword was a TSB even though it didn't look like it.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

Someone didn't read the thread thoroughly. Naruto's TSB are called Bijuu Damas when he uses them in the fashion posted above. Naruto was using Kurama's power when he used his TSB they were labelled as Tailed Beast Ball Rasenshuriken and not TSB rasenshuriken. Kaguya used the tailed beasts to form her Expansive TSB.

There are TSB shown in the movie. He shoots some at Sasuke when he is holding up his red Rasengan. He used an Expansive TSB on Naruto. The thing is we don't how an Expansive TSB looks like animated. Kaguya's hasn't been animated yet. So at first we would recognize it. And a lot of the TSB change color when someone uses a special techbique just look at Toneri and Naruto. Toneri's Sword was a TSB even though it didn't look like it.

Yes, we have seen TSB animated before and we have also seem then in NUNSTM4 trailers. An Expansive TSB shouldn't be any different from a TSB.

Does weren't TSB if they where then the whole "creating a dimension" is a NLF since none of that really happen. The planet from where Momoshiki came from and where the final battle took place was in his home planet where he was cultivating a Godly tree. Until there's evidence, i won't agree with expecualtion. Those look more like the Buijuu dama's he absorb from the tail beast earlier in the movie combine with the other elements. He even fire one back at Killer Bee and 8 tails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYer4FT11o

In the movie 8 tails attack was red but in the anime we have see them with the same color. No excuse there, those where not two different the attacks.

If you call that a ETSB then it would mean a downgrade for Kaguya since it did detonate and it doesn't even qualify for a Planet Level feat. Let alone to create and destroy a dimension like you call it.

Just find proof (canon) that the attack is called or that it even resembles an expansive TSB.

 

[TheMozart]

Yes, we have seen TSB animated before and we have also seem then in NUNSTM4 trailers. An Expansive TSB shouldn't be any different from a TSB.

Does weren't TSB if they where then the whole "creating a dimension" is a NLF since none of that really happen. The planet from where Momoshiki came from and where the final battle took place was in his home planet where he was cultivating a Godly tree. Until there's evidence, i won't agree with expecualtion. Those look more like the Buijuu dama's he absorb from the tail beast earlier in the movie combine with the other elements. He even fire one back at Killer Bee and 8 tails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYer4FT11o

In the movie 8 tails attack was red but in the anime we have see them with the same color. No excuse there, those where not two different the attacks.

If you call that a ETSB then it would mean a downgrade for Kaguya since it did detonate and it doesn't even qualify for a Planet Level feat. Let alone to create and destroy a dimension like you call it.

Just find proof (canon) that the attack is called or that it even resembles an expansive TSB.

An Expansive TSB is different than a regular TSB the same way a Bijuu Dama Rasenshuriken is different from a regular TSB despite being a tsb. We haven't seen the Expansive TSB be animated yet only in the game which shows one of Kaguya's dimensions being a full cosmos.

Where do you think Naruto disappeared to? Momoshiki's attack warped Naruto to another dimenson but Naruto contained the explosion so it didn't have any effect on anyone else.

There was no mention of that being Momoshiki's home planet. The dude who wrote the film said it was the dimension he created.

 

[Ryuuzakiscorpio]

An Expansive TSB is different than a regular TSB the same way a Bijuu Dama Rasenshuriken is different from a regular TSB despite being a tsb. We haven't seen the Expansive TSB be animated yet only in the game which shows one of Kaguya's dimensions being a full cosmos.

Where do you think Naruto disappeared to? Momoshiki's attack warped Naruto to another dimenson but Naruto contained the explosion so it didn't have any effect on anyone else.

There was no mention of that being Momoshiki's home planet. The dude who wrote the film said it was the dimension he created.

It was indeed mention, is what the Planet from where Momoshiki originated his plans in the beginning of he film after finding it. He did not created it. If Naruto contain the "explosion" how did he created another dimension as you imply really? After all the evidence says otherwise. (Any person can say what they want in an interview, it doesn't make it canon.)

Also, if you said that Naruto absorbed it or detonated the explosion is a NLF because been Small Planet Level does not make you Universal. (Do to the wank of Kaguya creating her own dimensions with stars on it.)

This topic should be closed. You can opened again "if" Kaguya's ETSB looks the same as Momoshiki's in the anime.

For my taste Momoshiki looked weaker than Kaguya, why else would he want to get his hands on the Shinju Tree from Earth. He was after the power that Kaguya optain from the Godly Tree's fruit.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

@TheMozart: I like your argument, you did not need to mention Naruto's because they lost their tsb qualities, but the ETSB is valid, can u imagine how much stronger that makes Naruto

 

[Gemmysaur]

Is this an Expansive Truthseeker Orb?

Momoshiki All 7 natures

Or an combination attack like Senpou: Chou Bijuu Rasenshuriken but done by his lonesome.

It could be either is what I'm saying as it is not clear enough.

due to a reason he explained in the film.
The manga is the new canon though iirc.

At that time, a huge explosion that twists and warps space!
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Naruto's tsb are named Bijuu Dama Rasenshurikens
Those are Bijuudama (Tailed Beast Ball), not Gudodama (Truth-seeking Ball).

Or Toneri his have different names like Silver Wheel.

His ability seems to convert TSB into another form entirely which is why they didn't get killed by getting blown away by a tornado that came from Toneri's TSB.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Naruto's tsb are named Bijuu Dama Rasenshurikens

Those are Bijuudama (Tailed Beast Ball), not Gudodama (Truth-seeking Ball).


Or Toneri his have different names like Silver Wheel.

His ability seems to convert TSB into another form entirely which is why they didn't get killed by getting blown away by a tornado that came from Toneri's TSB.
It was a TSB because we saw it move from his back into his hand, another way to do it is to count the TSB on his back after using those attacks

 

[Gemmysaur]

It was a TSB because we saw it move from his back into his hand, another way to do it is to count the TSB on his back after using those attacks

Looking at the chapter itself and the description from the wikia, Naruto converted the TSB into TBB (TBB is black/white chakra which could mean yin/yang or chakra unique only to the tailed beasts) the same way Toneri does into energy attacks and a cage. Madara does ther reverse and converts the BZetsu into what seems like a TSB iirc.
So yeah.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

It was a TSB because we saw it move from his back into his hand, another way to do it is to count the TSB on his back after using those attacks

Looking at the chapter itself and the description from the wikia, Naruto converted the TSB into TBB (TBB is black/white chakra which could mean yin/yang or chakra unique only to the tailed beasts) the same way Toneri does into energy attacks and a cage. Madara does ther reverse and converts the BZetsu into what seems like a TSB iirc.
So yeah.

I would agree as it is converting the tsb's abilities of durability negation, otherwise it would be like a mini etsb

 

[Gemmysaur]

I would agree as it is converting the tsb's abilities of durability negation, otherwise it would be like a mini etsb

Yeah. It probably lost its TSB properties due to no longer being TSB. Else, like you said, it will expand like ETSB instead of simply exploding.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Obito transformed Black Zetsu into a TSB too.